rushmc

So some scientists are crooks...what's your point? So far the story is of the dog bites man variant. As usual, rushmc fails to read what is written. There is a big "may have" right at the start of the article. Fairly typical of sites like wuwt, breitbart, etc. to present a supposition and then treat it as proven fact. 6 posts, no content attacking the poster and the sights "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

So some scientists are crooks...what's your point? So far the story is of the dog bites man variant. Are you being obtuse? How many times has it been posted that big oil money is the only reason for deniers? Well, big government give more money to big education by far So, how is really protecting themselves? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I think it is a fair statement, even if you think it is funny. I will explain why: I am fine with police and criminals being the only people walking around with guns. I understand that some innocent people will die, where the easy availability of guns could have prevented their death. I am willing to "pay that price", because I believe that fewer murders take place when less guns are easily available. I believe that society as a whole is better off that way. You appear to be willing to pay the price of more murders in your society, as long as you get to keep your guns. It seems you are willing to pay with my life. Your solution offers only the willing target solution This college had/has exactly what you want. No one there with guns except the bad guy and the cops. How did that turn out? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

NOTICE: Re-direct in progress #5 no content post "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

It is well known that the existing laws have been rendered toothless by lobbying from the NRA and others, so that they are easily circumvented. THAT is the entire point. Not true If I am wrong Show us what laws were lessoned and how please "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

this recovery just keeps giving Keep'em coming http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jobs-up-only-for-immigrants-14000-down-262000-for-native-borns/article/2573290 "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I will repeat You are weaseling If you are not, you can easily answer the following question and give clarity to the whole topic As a matter of practicality, if you worked at or went to school at this public university, given the state law (that you are cherry picking to CYA)and the university policy regarding conceal carry, how could any student, faculty or employee of this university, carry a weapon on the grounds? You and I know they would be allowed to but, as a practical matter how could it be done? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

If you think armed citizens are any threat to the U.S. government, you are living in a dream world. Tanks, drones, fighter jets, cruise missiles, satellite surveillance, etc vs. small arms fire from unorganised, untrained weekend warriors. The 2nd amendment was relevant when it was written and everyone had close to the same level of weaponry. Times change and to keep using the "tyranny" argument is silly. Really?? Al Qaeda, viet cong, afghans against russians? All out manned and out gunned. As I recall the fore fathers were out manned and out gunned as well. Yet here is this country a few hundred years later. If you are dumb enough to stand still and try to go toe to toe with the US military yes you will lose. Guerilla tactics however can and have been proven to be highly effective. Very good post "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Again No content posts Lessons in spelling and punctuation (missing in your quoted post) ARE content. You might be taken more seriously if you wrote in a manner that suggests you've had an education, and quoted web sites that aren't garbage. Another content free post PERIOD MISSING you are on a roleROLL BTW I don't give a fuck if you take me seriously or not PERIOD MISSING And anything you don't agree with is garbage to use your term PERIOD MISSING But, you are consistent PERIOD MISSING One of the most consistent things in Speakers Corner is your inability to write in your own native language. 3 posts now and not one word about a scientist who took 64 million dollars in the name of climate change going for 4 I am sure "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

What would you say if this person turns out to be a democrat and an Obama supporter? What would you say if the fetus in the video was a still birth and not an abortion? What piece of info are you commenting on? Or is this just another redirect? My post was made because of the claim Amazon made about who (in her provided link), with nothing to back it up You? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

What would you say if this person turns out to be a democrat and an Obama supporter? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Again No content posts Lessons in spelling and punctuation (missing in your quoted post) ARE content. You might be taken more seriously if you wrote in a manner that suggests you've had an education, and quoted web sites that aren't garbage. Another content free post you are on a role BTW I don't give a fuck if you take me seriously or not And anything you don't agree with is garbage to use your term But, you are consistent "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

That's not part of a law you are quoting rush. It is a statement by the author of the article. Basic concepts seem very difficult for you. You are weaseling If you are not, you can easily answer the following question and give clarity to the whole topic As a matter of practicality, if you worked at or went to school at this public university, given the state law (that you are cherry picking to CYA)and the university policy regarding conceal carry, how could any student, faculty or employee of this university, carry a weapon on the grounds? You and I know they would be allowed to but, as a practical matter how could it be done? Point being? This campus IS a gun free zone for all practical purposes. As well as any other public campi around the state And inside the buildings are gun free zones as defined by state law you can dance on this anyway you want but you should stop digging soon while you can still see light sheesh "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

No I have said many times that is correct. Just as correct that concealed carry is allowed on the campus grounds. Are you denying that concealed carry is allowed on the campus grounds? So you are admitting they were shot in a gun free zone Correct? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

A gun free zone in which state law allows for legal concealed carry. Come on SkyDekker Tell us, were they shot inside or outside the buildings???? I read that he was shooting inside a class room So, remember this part of the law ??? We are waiting! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I was against ALL of the bailouts NO ONE is too big to fail IMO and if you think the Dems are for the working man, why are the unions NOT supporting Hillary? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Again No content posts "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

We are talking about Oregon, not Iowa. ... Remember who you're talking to. This is the guy who thinks that when it snows in January in Iowa it proves that global warming is a hoax. I see you are still bring high level content in your posts "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

A gun free zone in which state law allows for legal concealed carry. Tell me oh smart one How would anyone carry if they are going to be in any building under that state law you keep harping about???? They can not under the law you are talking about Or are there just people who walk around the grounds to carry guns cuz they can????? Why would they be there???? The campus has it set up so you can drop your gun off at the security office when they come there And this they would have to do, under state law In the buildings, where they were shot, is a gun free zone Are you denying this? If you can come up with some explanation here that in not utterly stupid I will be surprised "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

***Just as bad, the August print was also revised far lower from 173K to 136K I'll take modest growth over the disaster that characterized the last year of GWB's reign. LOL "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

It is a gun free zone and you know it Even the 1 security guard did NOT have a weapon The only feeling I have is feeling sorry for you "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

We are talking about Oregon, not Iowa. Just simply answer the question: Are you denying that Oregon state law allows concealed carry license holders to carry on campus grounds of public schools? Red hearing I am not denying anything but you are And that would be reality "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Then why are you in favour of banning abortions? If women are intent on having one, they will find a way to get one. So banning abortions will do nothng to stop abortions. Yet, you are in favour of banning them. You can't even keep your own logic straight. Lastly, on the "screamed" comment above. State law supercedes the school policies. State law is pretty clear that people with a concealed carry license are allowed to carry on the campus grounds. If you had taken a little bit of time to read, you would have seen that posted a couple of times by now. All you need do is admit you were wrong NOTICE: Redirect in progress!! I have no problem admitting when I am wrong Rush, but the state law is clear. Are you denying that Oregon state law allows concealed carry license holders to carry on campus grounds of public schools? Iowa state law allows permit holders to carry in all public (government) building too But cities still post to keep legal owner/carriers out "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

http://www.infowars.com/community-college-where-10-shot-dead-was-a-gun-free-zone/ You think the students were going to fight this? Really? Gun free zone dude Period No matter how slippery you are trying to be "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

With an aging population that number will get bigger and bigger. It is part of it From AP http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ECONOMY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-10-02-08-33-31 "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln