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Saying it 50 times a day doesn't make it true. It'll make enough people believe it (as we've just found out), but it won't make it true. I only need say it once. That is all the truth needs I am curious. Do you expect Trump to ensure Hillary goes to prison? No. Not his job. I only expect the FBI and DoJ do their jobs. Unlike the cover they have given Hillary this year. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Saying it 50 times a day doesn't make it true. It'll make enough people believe it (as we've just found out), but it won't make it true. I only need say it once. That is all the truth needs "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

And if the Gary Johnson voters in FL had gone with Clinton, she would have won. and the blame goes on Clinton, not the voters Part of blame goes on the GOP for spending 3 years focusing on bashing Clinton because she was the most likely Dem nominee for 2016. Isn't it strange how she left office Feb 1 2013 with a 56% favorable / 35% unfavorable rating, and her numbers have nose-dived in the years since while she held no office? http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating And the other part of the blame goes on the DNC for holding a coronation designed to annoit the presumptive nominee, instead of a primary with all candidates on a level playing field. Hillary made her own bed with her own activities. Also notice, she did very little campaigning on her record. Her almost total focus was bashing Trump. And her media ate it up. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Not at all. Personally, I think all people should be equal. Your vote should count exactly as much as my vote. You're praising a rigged system because it's rigged in your favor. Don't try and pretend otherwise. you are wrong I would be disappointed but I would still defend it if Hillary had one for the very reasons I have stated before. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

"Would have"??? Clinton has been a private citizen since Feb 1 2013. If there are/were any criminal/civil proceedings against her, there is no reason they would have paused just because she was campaigning. Trump & Clinton have BOTH been private citizens for the past 3 years. Her troubles are not over yet. And I fixed my post in the quote above So, uh, what active Federal suits (not just investigations) and impending trials is Hillary facing? A criminal investigation of her foundation has been underway for over a year by the FBI. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Unfortunately, last night a significant number of people in the US sided with a leader who has repeatedly demonstrated "payback" as an SOP. The biggest fear is it will spread and grow. Pay back is already spreading and growing. IRS targeting comes to mind. That said, the voters sided with a person who will not be bullied by the media or either of the parties. I watched CBS off an on last night. One of their people stated (after it became apparent Trump was going to win) that the reason Trump won was because he ran against the Dem party, the Rep party, the media, big corporations and big government. She was no Trump supporter but I agree with her assessment. Trump was not my first choice. And I would have voted for the devil over Hillary. That said, I enjoyed him not bowing to political correctness. Some of you saw that differently than I did but I enjoyed him rattling cages. He is what we needed and I think he will be good at the job. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I said this bitch was coming. look at the electoral map. the system works exactly as designed and it works well. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal" The system designed to enshrine inequality certainly worked as designed. It was designed to ensure that some citizens are more equal than others when selecting the president. nope It was designed to ensure one small part of the country can not dictate to the rest of the country Get over it You lost 'Tyranny of the majority' and 'growth of factions' was the mindset behind enacting the Elector system for President. With that in mind, if the new Republican Senate wants to be Statesmen instead of politicians, they need to reenact the 60 vote rule that was altered by the Democratic Senate to stack the courts with their judges. Yeah, like that would ever happen. Probably not in my lifetime. Why? They held the Senate. Trump won too. The Democrats set the rule. The Senate will not need 60 votes to deal with Obamacare either. Remember what Obama said to the Republicans in the second week of his first term and working with the Republicans? He told them he won. Well the precedent that was set was back when Jefferson wrote the original rules was that in a thinly divided Senate enough of the minority had to agree with the majority, which is what we have now (thinly divided) in the Senate for the next few years. Yes, the Democrats changed the rules and now it could come back to bite them in the ass. However, I do not want to see anyone or any party have the ability to just rubber stamp whatever they like and push it through. The interests of the other side need to be considered. That's just me, YMMV. That rule also included standing up in the Senate chamber and talking the whole time. Changes things tremendously. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

The system gives equal voice to the states and the people in them. Only 4 out of 100 counties in the state of Iowa went blue. Those counties have the cities of Ames, Iowa City, Des Moines and Cedar Rapids. Should those 4 counties be able to control the whole state? By the way The Republicans now hold all parts of IA state government. MN now has a republican house and senate. Republicans now hold more governors offices (by 4 I think) than before the election. I am looking forward to see other states results/changes "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

False premise Wendy. Tell me. Do you think urban people should control who is elected in this country and the rural people be damned? If so, how do you see that changing the way politicians campaign? I see the way it is done today giving equal voice to each state. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

This election had nothing to do with race. It WAS all about the people of the US. But tell me. Just to follow your logic. Why is it a good thing when blacks come together and vote for their interests. (at least what you think is in their interests) it is a good thing. It is what this country is about. But if white people come together (just to follow your logic) to vote their interest it is some how a bad thing. In any event, I think it is a good thing that people of the US do not come together as a race and vote for any party. The Dems have been using the black voter for decades. The Dems lie about which party ended slavery to keep the votes coming and after 40 to 60 years what gains have been seen? And I find it interesting you mention the film industry. They have been caught on tape, like the Democratic party has, disparaging women, blacks, Jews and others. Yet the majority of the film industry supports the Dem party and the Dem party cozies up to them. Why? Money. So we have a party that uses people of race for votes and an industry for money. Is the Dem party really looking out for anybody but themselves? Sure as hell Hillary does not care about anyone but herself. BTW I came out of my house that is located in a small development to vote. And I did not lurk to go do that Now, do I read your post correctly and you see this election as a backlash against blacks? If you do then I feel sorry for you. This election had nothing to do with race. It is about people fed up with its government NOT listening to them. Period. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I said this bitch was coming. look at the electoral map. the system works exactly as designed and it works well. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal" The system designed to enshrine inequality certainly worked as designed. It was designed to ensure that some citizens are more equal than others when selecting the president. nope It was designed to ensure one small part of the country can not dictate to the rest of the country Get over it You lost 'Tyranny of the majority' and 'growth of factions' was the mindset behind enacting the Elector system for President. With that in mind, if the new Republican Senate wants to be Statesmen instead of politicians, they need to reenact the 60 vote rule that was altered by the Democratic Senate to stack the courts with their judges. Yeah, like that would ever happen. Probably not in my lifetime. Why? They held the Senate. Trump won too. The Democrats set the rule. The Senate will not need 60 votes to deal with Obamacare either. Remember what Obama said to the Republicans in the second week of his first term and working with the Republicans? He told them he won. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

He has all the best fixes! He can fix the things nobody else can fix! Did you vote for Trump? "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I said this bitch was coming. look at the electoral map. the system works exactly as designed and it works well. "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal" The system designed to enshrine inequality certainly worked as designed. It was designed to ensure that some citizens are more equal than others when selecting the president. nope It was designed to ensure one small part of the country can not dictate to the rest of the country Get over it You lost "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I don't think that I did. If you find it, I will eat my words. And, let's remember that she did get a majority of the total vote. I have been voting for president for 52 yrs. I have accepted it when my pick did not get elected; C'est la vie. However, for me, Trump will never be my president. There is nothing acceptable about him. Jerry Baumchen Quite right You did not say it would be a landslide. You stated you hoped it would be. I stand corrected http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=4809145;search_string=landslide;#4809145 What I find sad Jerry is the fact that Hillary's has so much more baggage than one could ever hope to hang on Trump. What you have set in your mind is a media driven image that has nothing to do with reality. What was done to him is the same as was done to Romney. Remember the war on women? And how he hated animals? All images created not in any reality but in the minds of those Hillary supporters who are more than willing to find any excuse to not see her for the corrupt individual that she is. BTW The same was done to any R presidential candidate you or I can think of and, it will be no different in the years to come. Women haters, bigots, racists, homophobes, and on and on. Just as I have been accused of here on this site even today. Sorry Jerry, he is your president. Unless you renounce your citizenship and move. Which I do not recommend. Oh, I almost forgot the Nazi claim. That is always a good one. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Absolutely, I am going to be laughing for the next 4 years. Sort of. I have said before that I find Trump to be scary. He has shown that he easily comes unhinged when challenged. . He has shown nothing of the sort. He has been accused of that by the Clinton and big government media but he has not demonstrated anything like what you post here. Nice try. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I'm sorry dude, but what the fuck were you just saying about contempt for voters? How many bridges do you (think you) own? Look Hillary has a track record. Her only motivation was to enrich herself. She used her office to do that. She used a private email server to cover that criminal activity but she got caught because of her incompetence regarding Benghazi. All out there for all to see. The crime foundation even paid of her daughters 4 million dollar wedding. How nice. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

"Would have"??? Clinton has been a private citizen since Feb 1 2013. If there are/were any criminal/civil proceedings against her, there is no reason they would have paused just because she was campaigning. Trump & Clinton have BOTH been private citizens for the past 3 years. Her troubles are not over yet. And I fixed my post in the quote above "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Call it Medicare or Medicaid, or whatever. Health care will be publicly funded in some way. No, it will not. That is not what the voters want. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

And what did you ever show to people who voted for Obama? you can go look what I posted 8 years ago I was not where I am at today, Dealing with the insults over a long period of time can drag one down to your level. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I will help them pay their way if they promise never to come back Just a bunch of sore loser panty waste cry babies anyway "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Sounds like something Trump would say. Very insightful. ***And he bragged about doing that. I heard the tape. Exaggeration or lie? I don't know. And clearly you don't care much either. I meant to say it is all taxed money. Why confiscate it?? I do not pay attention to what clearly is a political attempt of bs much like the war on women bull shit that was thrown at Romney. Same song different verse.... THIS is what you don't get or care about. Same shit that happened to the Zimmerman case. I know you don't care to get it. You have demonstrated that very clearly her for a long time. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

I am just happy he doesn't represent me. Me too "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Sorry if I missed your point earlier. Good post! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

Either he did or he is a liar, since he himself bragged about doing it. Or are you denying the existence of that tape? ***And what pray tell is Trumps corruption Trump University. Using charitable funds to make political donations. Destroying evidence during court proceedings. Huh? I gave that as an example as policy he wants to institute to help himself and his family as opposed to the country. How does eliminating the estate tax help the country? And he bragged about doing that. I heard the tape. Exaggeration or lie? I don't know. I don't think you care about lies either for you would have been posting about Hillary's for years . The death tax never should have ever existed. It is all taxes money. It should not be taxed again. It is a redistribution scheme and the gov has no claim to it IMO. I don't car if it helps him or not. And you really do not care about charitable foundations or you would have been posting about Hillary's crime foundation. We will see how the Trump university thing pans out. At this point you only have what you want to believe. If you only knew half of what you think you know "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln

As clearly displayed by those rejoicing on this website. You display your complete ignorance of who and what Trump is and represents. Your mind has been polluted by the media you have come to trust. They did the same to every R candidate in the past and will continue to do it every R candidate in future. And you and those like you will suck it up as if it is needed for you to stay alive. Once I came to understand this, your posts did not bother me anymore. Have a nice day. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln