Flying-Wench

reply]Only with some nice clear pics will I be able to tell feel free to post them or pm them to me!!

shhhh i dont question, just enjoy i DO get that ALL the time.. or wether i am in fact a man trapped in a womans body Only with some nice clear pics will I be able to tell feel free to post them or pm them to me!!

he he he.. nice one.. sending that to our pilot now. the puppy didnt even look scared!

shhhh i dont question, just enjoy i DO get that ALL the time.. or wether i am in fact a man trapped in a womans body

he he he i have the opposite arrangements.. (no training or spankings were required) i eat, make mess and skydive. he cooks, cleans and stays home. just works out that way!

hear hear!

Once the pot works it's way out of your system, you go back to being just bi-curous. must be taking it time in working its way out

WHATEVah! *shrugs*

OH - I'm GAME But can you handle "THE TURTLE?" woo hoo! and HOW does "THE TURTLE" like ot be handled?

If that was true, I'd have turned severely gay when I was around 16.

hmm.. i seem to have a very bad habit of killing threads. *sits in the corner*

Hi there! what a polite reply! arent you supposed to tell me to get fucked? or do i tell you.. or do we all.. oh.. whatever *confused* Would you like to get fucked? or should that be.. IF YOUR GAME!

Hi there! what a polite reply! arent you supposed to tell me to get fucked? or do i tell you.. or do we all.. oh.. whatever *confused* Would you like to get fucked? if your offering.. (providing your cheap )

Do you think that discounting the wisdom of elders is wise. I don't know your age, but I could say that you are too young to know what you're talking about.That you're thinking only from an emotional point of veiw, instead of a logical one. mate i dont wish to attack you personally, but WHERE do you get off on judging other people so much??? I agree with Lindsey. How is it that you can preach to us about living a pure life when you have not been there yourself? You obviously made mistakes and learnt from them, as most of us have. Share you experiences, learning comes from that, but dont dictate to others what they can/cannot do. Nothing gives you that right, to hold your morals over anothers, no matter how "pure" you are now. Havent you ever heard of "live and let live"? Why must we all life our lives the way you wish? Who gave you this authority or right? What happened to diversity.. If you have made mistakes and learnt from them, was part of your learnings "life is too short"? Why spend your time making other people miserable with your judgements? Its not productive and not at all conducive to learning. And whilst i have a huge amount of respect for my elders, being "older" (unfortunately) does not automatically grant wisdom. And might i add.. before you start in on other peoples views.. many of your posts here have been very emotive, and not based on logic or fact. Again, perhaps you should practice what you preach.

mm and i have to say i am impressed by the majority of attitudes in here.. it gives hope. Royd (and anyone whom is interested) read up on the cultural impacts on HIV prevention.. http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/newsletters/monthlymonitor/200601.htm and my line "We cant stop anyone from doing anything, but we CAN work towards ensuring that anything that they do do is safe. ". Its the same in skydiving!

mate, dont tell me what my reality is. you wouldnt have a clue. i dont expect a cure to "oblige" anything i or others do. I am not holding out for a cure, i think it is a long way off and we need to be tackling this NOW. My personal opinion is that prevention is much better than a cure, and yes as you state, this involves getting to the base of the problem. But you have to be realistic and non-judgemental in your strategy! You cant ignore the facts about human nature! Weve been there and done that in the past and it dont work! Passing out judgments for "bad behaviour" will push things underground, and at that point, education and other preventative measures are virtually useless. id like to remind you, that i (as well as many others) contracted the virus not by going out and getting a shot of "leg" but by participating as per the norm in a long term relationship. You cant just box the entire HIV community. Our manner of infection is varied, which means that any preventative strategy needs to be multi-faceted to deal with the varied ways in which the virus in transmitted. Your idea of celibacy until one is old enough to make rational decisions.. ie. "keep it in your pants" might work for a section of the HIV community, but for a large majority it wont work. We have already heard from a number of people who all agree with the facts of human nature. You have to work within your parameters and keep it realistic. Asking humans, teenagers especially, to stop experimenting, is just not going to happen. Think of the drug use campiagns, they have struggled with the same thing. Its been tried, and it didnt work. Why repeat the failures of the past? We cant stop anyone from doing anything, but we CAN work towards ensuring that anything that they do do is safe. It is a FACT that people will have casual sex, you cant stop it. What we are advocating for is SAFE sex.. and better targetted information that is based on TRUE fact and stats and not scaremongering campaigns and judgments. And no i dont find your comments callous. It is a hard fact that the death toll from HIV is going to rise. I count myself amongst one of those statistics. And i agree, it should be a wake up call to act.. for many of us, it has been already. It is THE WAY in which we act of which i am debating with you.

Hi there! what a polite reply! arent you supposed to tell me to get fucked? or do i tell you.. or do we all.. oh.. whatever *confused*

its humpday (wednesday) 2 sleeps until the weekend i AM going to nail Stage 4 AFF this saturday i AM going to be obscenely drunk sunday night im eating kingstons. and.. i sure told him! *growls*

mm.. thanks for the heads up *grins* i think im dealing with a similar problem in another thread! FW try using or this or this

Sorry that I have to draw a picture, but two men having sex does nothing for the procreation of the species. You forgot to ask about common sense. If you have sex with someone who's had sex with ten other people, who have had sex with............ Hopefully, you get the point. I beleive that was explained to me in boot camp in 1971 concerning vd. Hmm. The last two people I took care of with HIV were women, both of whom contracted HIV from their husbands. One of those women died in February. I had taken care of her in the ER and admitted her to the hospital shortly before she died. An interesting aside....In April, I rounded on a woman who remembered me....her mom who was with her that night in the ER. She thanked me for my compassion for her daughter, something that she rarely encountered. I'd hate to be one of the people who makes another person's life, who is already facing some pretty tough obstacles, worse.... linz Hey Linz.. Thankyou for sharing that, i dont do the crying thing, but that did bring tears to my eyes. And thankyou for your compassion you have shown to these women.. your right.. it is hard to find these days. It is people like you that make dark lives brighter. FW

totally. much has changed, but much also has not. The organisation im with is still fighting to get HIV on the political agenda, especially the increase in hetero tranmission.. to get the resources we need to better educate and undertake research. We are even fighting to have some of the research directed into better channels. Only now they have started undertaking research looking into protection and preservation of the immune system, as opposed to focusing on killing the virus. Anti virals will bring the viral load down to undetected, but the virus hides in the brain and lymph nodes and is so far indestructable! But i have to wonder why more research isnt being done on people that HAVE been exposed to the virus, but didnt contract it? I understand about immune systems and vairance betwen people.. but still! My current partner may have been exposed in the early days of my infection, before i was diagnosed. Typically there is a 3-6 month window between infection and when the virus presents itself in the body and one undergoes sero-conversion and starts to show symptoms (if at all). We are positive (o look a pun *guffaws*) that he would have been exposed and i would have had quite high viral loads at that point of infection. Why wasnt he infected? The people i donate blood to for research, dont seem interested in examining why HE wasnt infected, and i cant really understand that! mm.. but anyway.. Interesting read here on HIV research and its "value": http://www.napwa.org.au/index.php?q=node/437

mm.. thanks for the heads up *grins* i think im dealing with a similar problem in another thread! FW

Royd: Why you choose to remian ignorant on the facts, is beyond me. Id MUCH rather be educated. I respect that under their different religions, people have different ideals and thoughts about how things should be and what is right and wrong. And yes you are entitled to your opinions. However, it is difficult to take ANYTHING you say seriously, since you dont much rely on facts to back up any of your arguments. This kind of attitude, can undo the current good work being done in educating people about HIV. Your solutions are too simplistic for such a complex issue. Laws of nature? As i have said before, do some reading on the social habits of humans before you judge us "heathens" on our activities. NO religion guides the laws of nature. Have you even BOTHERED to read the posts that myself and Freethefly have provided with LOADS of information on HIV and the current stats? IT IS NOT JUST A DISEASE OF THE GAY OR DRUG COMMUNITY. Sorry for shouting, but how much info do we have to provide to get this across? Young hetero couples are being infected and are in turn passing on this virus, its a fact. Accept it. You cant bury your head in the sand on this issue. People are going to have sex. Accept it. You cant change it. You have to create strategy based on the facts at hand. Misinformation is absouletly a huge part of the problem. If i had of known 3 years ago the statistics of hetero infections, i might have made some different decisions. Young people are not being warned, and many (as is obvious in this thread) still believe that providing they are not homosexual or a drug user that they are "safe" from the virus. This simply isnt the case. Im not going to re-spout the info ive been picthing at you for the last 2 days, but i am surprised at this new angle of yours. Firstly it was "bad behaviour" and that those practising "deserved" the virus, now your echoing the HIV anti-gay scare campaigning of the 80's? We have progressed much since then! Oh and as for your comments on casual remarks and the "hammer", get off your soap box. You made some flippant remarks about me personally, judging me without knowing me, what reaction did you expect? I have a reasonable sense of humour (you have to when theres nothing else to be done!), but you overstepped the line. I can handle most casual remarks on my OWN thanks very much, dont shut other people down just because you got hammered for your own insensitive comments. We ARE trying to stimulate conversation and learning in here. On that note, great to see involvement in this thread. Curious to know, are the posts freethefly and i are providing useful? CONSTRUCTIVE feedback would be appreciated (the info based ones i mean, i dont claim that my rants would be that useful *grins*) Have a stunning day people. FW