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Skydiving costs: Getting to A license - $1500 to $2500 Gear: Rig 4000 (includes first reserve pack, shipping...etc) , suit 200, alti 75, helmet 200 100 Jumps after A license: $2500 gas: $18 each time you go (based on 30 mpg, 75 miles each way, $3.5/Gal) Just getting started = $8600 to $9600 in the first 125 jumps This does not include: food, beer, boogie fees, video, coaching (post license), license fees, tunnel time, reserve repacks, Regular packjobs, water training, videos, pictures, speeding tickets and many other incidentals. (If you think my math is off, I checked my records and the first 128 jumps cost $10,237) $900 are a drop in the bucket and not a factor in making a decision. Prepare to spend at least $5000/year (about 150 jumps a year) Skydiving is an expensive hobby. There are much cheaper ways to get your thrills, impress the ladies, find meaning in life, have an adventure, fill a hole in your soul, get a personality, die or main yourself, make friends, get out of a funk, have a midlife crisis, check an item of a bucket list, find your tribe, be part of a small club, learn to master your own body, learn from your mistakes, learn from other's mistakes, be a rebel.... It is not just money, it is time. Skydiving will also alienate you from some people. You will spend your weekends at a dropzone while your friends are out socializing and trying new things. The explosive high from the first few jumps will transform into the high of getting better and succeeding, but if you are just in it for the adrenaline and the "rush" your tenure in the sport might be short lived. Waking up every weekend in the season at 6:30am and driving an hour and half to the dropzone. Sitting on the ground while the winds are too high for a student and driving home too late on Sunday to hang out with your wuffo friends. And you are already off to a rocky start. Zero jumps and you are already asking for advice on the internet. The internet is the number one worst place to learn to skydive. Because even as you read this you must be aware that I could be full of shit, making honest mistakes, misleading you on purpose, drunk, and idiot and all of the above. Close the browser, delete the link to this page, delete your account and call a dropzone. Call 20 dropzones. I will even give you the numbers to some of them: 9256347575: Bay area 8566294600: Crosskeys 6192168416: san diego 5204663735: Skydive AZ 8137839399: Z hills 18665867872: Chambersburg 3867383539: Deland 2815953772: Spcaeland 9784339222: pepperell 5409436587: Orange 9512459939: Elsinore Call any one of these and say "I would like some advice from an instructor, S&TA, or DZO" tell them your story and listen. I repeat "listen". In three hours on the phone you will get more information than three years on the internets. Better yet, go to a dropzone. Furthermore: You will be lucky if there is one dropzone close to where you live. What choice do you have? You take whatever is available at that place. You could do a destination course. Travel to a busy dropzone, pitch a tent, hand over a credit card and don't leave till you got what you came for. You are young, you will survive Welcome to the sport! There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

The Elsinore wingsuit manual SEW is fantastic. I get the "Lanes" approach but how do you work with it with multiple aircraft? Wingsuits are not banned in Eloy. The S&TA has set some pretty clear rules that are fair and quite generous. The instructors are used to us doing our thing and when we misbehave we are very apologetic. There were even 3 wingsuiters doing night jumps when they had them. We don't ask for a "left 90" and instead do a flight pattern where we are responsible to offset from jump run. This being SkydiveAZ, the pilots are very well versed in dropping idiots in all shapes and sizes. It also helps that the entire desert is an out. I like the baton pass. I remember a couple of years ago there was some experimenting with paint rollers and wiffle balls. On this vein...leg grippers for WS? This is pretty much the most mind boggling, awesome video I have seen of wingsuit acro Holy crap awesome This is our feeble attempt at the same thing: Crappy video of acro flailing my wingsuit pal made this one from the same footage: A much higher quality video that makes us look slightly less moronic I am going to try to make it out to Chicks rocks to fly with some larger groups. Gotta get some flocking skills (all the cool kids are doing it). I can smell the sarcasm oozing out. But seriously...if anyone has a demo suit for us that is slightly larger than the Phantom 2 we are flying...please send it to us. We are both the same size 5'9" 175-180 Lbs. We both want to fly something with a bit more performance before we buy. We tried the Alien suit because there is a guy here who has one sitting in his gear. Agreed on the no comments. Nex time I am rooting in the old posts and find something cool...I will bump it up. If I get banned, so be it. On the silly arguments. They are unavoidable. Trolls and baiters aside: passionate people want to communicate and have an input into the future of this activity. We are all in the same boat (plane?). If we all adhere to the "Post anything you want just have a link to a crappy video". even the silly arguments will have some worth. Wow this post is really long. I will not have new footage for at least another week so I won't be able to comment or answer anything here. I will be lurking the forum until then. (My humble, soap box, preachy opinion: Most of us jump weekends. some of us are lucky enough that our day jobs allow us to lurk and maybe post here once in a while. But this forum belongs to us as much as it belongs to the moderators, manufacturers, professional fliers or USPA. It's up to us. Don't fuck it up) I am glad to see a couple of people who posted here who have an account for a loooooong time with like four posts ever , these are the videos I want to see. People just like me. Awesome stuff spot! you are doing a great service to Elsinore and the wingsuiters. Don't get baited by the drama! Jarno: The teaser you post are great. If i can just stay focused and-Oh look! a pony! There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

Good job spot!! I really wanted to reply but I want to keep to my own rule of only posting if I have a crappy video. (So I went out to the DZ to get some awful video of wingsuiting) I think...your videos do not meet the "crappier than mine" requirement. But seriously...is there outside video of the barrel roll with the rodeo? that was hilarious. the training page: Since when has that been up? looks great. The "Downfall" subtitle spoof: I almost peed my pants I must apologize if it came across that the moderators are not doing a good job. I think WE are not doing a good job. Moderators are not kindergarten teachers, we are doing this to ourselves. And since I don't think the drama and flame wars will stop any time soon, I proposed a suggestion that like minded individuals can follow. I believe (with zero proof) that this will generate more content on the forum and might even side track the drama to positive discussion. Imagine this: Some newbie like me posts a crappy video of yesterdays jumps. The video sucks, (sound, editing, everything) and two people who are usually anti-posting each other, they start to argue technique and better body position and the details of how to achieve a better exit or docking and so on. Is good! Much success! Cookies for everyone! Skwrl: Human comets. how do the sparks not damage the suits? Jealousy. Mr. Cat: Sig line, nuff said. I am getting less than two minutes from 13,500 3,500 on a P2. I need to lose weight and fly better lloyd: Cool barrel roll. Dirty white mike? aren't all color coded mikes dirty? and he didn't even geek the camera! And the video: Another crappy video There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

Hello all, I am not sure if this is the right place to post this. It is videos of people flying wingsuits. Not a drama hissy fit. They are not good videos. The flying quality is rather low. The camera flyer sucks. The editing is amateurish. The video quality is low. No records are broken or attempted. The fliers are far from any clouds or cliffs or trees. There is no fancy back flying (or any fancy flying). The captions are not funny or informative. there is no music or sound. But, they have actual wingsuit flying. That is more than most of the recent discussions and in my personal humble opinion...I want more of these. I want to learn and improve my wingsuit flight. I want to learn and improve my videos of others flying. Do we need to elect better moderators? Is it our fault that these discussions are even allowed here? The soap box and bonfire exist for a reason. I want more wingsuit flying on the wingsuit forum. Ban me if you want. I rarely post so I won't be missed. I am not a troll so don't post a reply unless: 1) Suggestions on how to improve the video or flying. 2) Your own even crappier video Crappy flying 1 Crappy flying 2 Maybe for one week we can try this: any post must include a link or attachment that is even remotely connected to wingsuit flying. This way, the rest of us can at least enjoy some flying videos or pictures while the avid supporters of one cause or another tear each other to bits. No exceptions There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

Experience teaches only the teachable. - Aldous Huxley There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

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Interesting subject you raise. Given that lawyers regularly lurk DZ.com when an incident occurs and comments from this website have a tendency to appear in legal briefs and memos, you should take everything here with a grain of salt. Regulars to DZ.com who see an empty profile such as yours might get their a-hole senses tingling and might be tempted to post inflammatory/wrong/misleading information on purpose. Especially when the question is written with correct grammar, without cursing, in a format reminiscent of a BarBri textbook. (Use of jargon eg. "Farmer McNasty" is invalidated by correct capitalization) The result can be that a simple and innocent question such as you posed can get opinions that vary wildly. These wild opinions might then be used by some enterprising attorney to help or screw the entire skydiving population. Sometimes both. The simple fact is that serious questions should be dealt with in a serious manner. DZ.com has a very limited ability to entertain serious discussions on the best of days. In order to combat this spewing of nonsense from people like me, you should consult the people who are serious about skydiving. The USPA can be reached at (540) 604-9740, fax (540) 604-9741 uspa@uspa.org The board of directors can be reached individually and they consist of DZOs, pilots, aircraft owners and experienced skydivers. USPA BOD Or if you prefer a non USPA opinion: (209) 369-1128. Skydive Lodi The short answer to your original question: When lawyers get involved, everybody loses. No exceptions. There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

#3 - So true Also: You have friends/coworkers who don't know you are a skydiver. There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

There are some stupid MFers commenting on that story. To summarize: She was sleeping with the instructor to get him to commit suicide with her husband strapped to him by accidentally falling asleep from narcolepsy while skydiving. All this is for the insurance money that does not cover skydiving and she does not need. On top of this: the Instructor, DZO, USPA, gear manufacturer, the dropzone dog and the mayor of Gardiner are all complicit/directly responsible for his death as well. And as everyone knows: Skydivers normally have only one or two or three(?) parachutes. Instructors are not experienced skydivers (huh?) and the pilots decide when to deploy the parachute (?) -Indeed There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

This should be on a T-Shirt There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

Kindly state, concisely, what your "General view on life and death" is? I am sorry for the repetition but you and others have written so many things that I am confused what your views are. (I want to learn about other cultures and your views are highly celebrated) There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

- Are you a reporter trying to get a juicy quote? - Are you a troll trying to start a flame war? - Are you working for a lawyer trying to establish the "general attitude" or "state of the art" or something? - Have you never heard of this ? Maybe its time to retire this account and start a fresh new one as if all this never happened. There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

OOPS! pi/6 cPubic Smiles

List of things that I would want to be 100% safe (not 99%): 1) Sex/Religion/politics 2) Crossing the street 3) Eating a peanut 4) Riding the subway 5) Taking a dump 6) Walking a texting 7) School lunches 8) Changing a tire 9) Christmas lights 10) McDonald's coffee temperature 11) Ice cream 12) Having a beer with SkyMonkey1 14) The number 13 15) Stairs (I shit you not: Health and Safety Executive UK) 16) Disneyland 17) Zippers (The boys can agree with me here) The list goes on and on There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

Simon! What's the rest of your schedule looking like this summer? There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

FIFY There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

Silly game...can I play? apples, oranges, plums,lemons,apricots,pears,peaches, mangoes,tangerines, the forbidden fruit, mandarins, tomatoes, cucumbers, : eat with peel bananas, pomelo, grapefruit, kiwi, lychee, pineapple,: peel then eat I recently had this discussion with a friend when she saw me eat a mango peel. I asked her when the last time was that she tried to eat a mango/orange/whatever peel was. And her reply was unsurprisingly that is was when she was like 7-8 years old. I then gave her a piece of peel and told her she is welcome to try and that she should consider that when she was 7-8 she also did not like spicy food, dark chocolate, salad dressing and so on. A bit of mango peel is not like hard drugs, your body can process it and if you don't like it, spit it out. She now eats orange peels, mango peels, and has tried several other things, There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

1) Are you kidding!!!??? I would totally watch that show. That would be awesome. "House" and medical accuracy? "Mad Men" and the 50's? "True Blood" and Louisiana? "Jersey Shore" and humans? "Teen Mom" and parenting? "Real world" and the real world? I don't think that the people in reality shows are anything but bullshit. You want accuracy - get a tuffet and a classic 2) "Point Break" brought people closer to skydiving even though most of the skydiving there is inaccurate. There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

there is no Episode 1 in Star Wars. Only 4,5 and 6 are known to exist. There is a Christmas special and Han shot first There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

Not me but i was picking up mt friend at an ER and these two injuries cracked me up. 1) Hernia while taking a dump 2) Sexual implement stuck in orifice (Came in on a gurney bottom side up) There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

Alt+Print Screen is your friend You can grab the picture just off the current highlighted window, without all the taskbar. So we would not be able to tell that you are downloading Pr0n on uTorrent

to be fair: This thread Don't be a hater There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

So do we call him the "box man"? There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

That's exactly how they work. When you do something for the first time you owe beer to all those who have come before you. When there is no one before you, you owe nothing because there is no one to owe it to. There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers

1) No beer is due. In fact he is owed beer by all of us. 2) Swoop ponds could be filled with boxes. 3) He should do it again and again and again like Rossy. It is no longer a "stunt" or a "one-off" its just amazing. (This is one of the reasons why chuteless jumps are just stunts. People don't repeat them again and again and again....) 4) I hope Jeb heals quick and does it too. One person doing it is a freak, two- its a phenomena, three- an epidemic. 5) Speaking of Jeb. Where are the 19 GoPros on Gary? 6) We should have expected some James Bond shit from a guy name Connery. Congrats. You are definitely the man. This years winner of "big brass balls award" There are no dangerous dives Only dangerous divers