LordRatner

The dealer agreement limits what you can sell it for? I'm not familiar with how skydive gear distributors work, so I dont doubt it. I'm just more familiar with agreements that only limit the price you're allowed to advertise

Either you're really being picked on like you make it sounds, and you jump at the worst dropzone in the world, or you have horrible insecurity issues which are causing to you take mild-natured and harmless teasing as an attack. Its probably not the former. I've been teased for having a high wing loading, and a low wing loading (it's like 1.1). For being young, for having an orange helmet, for being a coach, for buying a brand new container, for buying an optimum, and even for wearing Vans shoes. I really wanted to lay them out, then I realized they were friends, and I wasn't in middle school anymore, and stopped pretending like I was 6 years old. Learn to laugh a little, you'll live longer.

I had that problem when I would put speed stars together at our dz. freeflyers, while talented in sits and HD, are often lacking in the swoop and dock and fast-fall belly position. Always got pissed when I wouldn't put them last.

I agree, skydiver discounts are pretty nice, however, I'll probably be there soon harrassing the management for an Adult League like SVCO does. Hopefully they listen to me...

No kidding. I didnt even start getting off the net till about 30 mins... thats an expensive lesson. You'll get it.

I gotta disagree with ya on this one. The kid has shown himself to be arrogent and invincible. He needs a good kick in the ass, or something he wants to be taken from him (e.g. his video privileges) Its no different than our very own Dustin, who has been talked to and nurtured ad nauseum, to no effect. Unfortunetely every time I or someone else goes to give him a harsher correction, even if in the form of some raised-voice counselling, someone jumps in to protect his feelings and tells him it's ok, he's learning, right? Ya, then on the next load hes planning a 3way crew jump with all sub-40 jump friends, or cutting off tandems in the pattern doing S turns because he doesnt want to land in the shrubs. This jarred kid is no different.

That doesn't make sense... or I'm reading you wrong. If the pound is worth 2 US dollars, then that means the brits are really paying $600 US dollars for a membership, making it twice as bad, not half as bad...

Yup, listen to everyone in here. I just hit 200 jumps (in exactly 365 days), while in college (and at a military academy to boot). I would love to get my instructor rating, and shoot camera, but i cant see it as anything more than a simple weekend fun job. Get into the sport as a hobby and observe those who do it as a career. Then decide if it's for you.

If you're a remotely decent belly flyer, the air aspect of the course will be easy for you. The hard part, and the biggest focus, is on teaching, remembering what the student does on the jump, and debrief skills.

I played Rock Paper Scissors in freefall with tdog once. I kinda wanna do it again

I had the pleasure of jumping with Pat a week ago in Perris. We got him to hang off the bar under the SkyVan. It was funny, because he was explaining skydancing without specifically using the term, and all I could think was "Gee, that sure sounds alot like what Skratch was talking about" and sure enough, on the ride up, Pat asks, "Do you know Skratch Garrison" Pat's carefree nature was a welcome change. I knew it would be a fun jump when he said "to hell with the exit: Thanks Pat.

which garmin do you have?

Hey, I don't know if I've seen ya around the DZ, but congrats on being close to your A, and once ya have it, find me and we'll do a jump or 5. I'm the guy with black and orange everything. About the girl... Get her jumping, or cutaway. It's a new relationship, and you're already having this problem. No good. Not to mention that even if she didn't care about you jumping, the fact that you're all lovey dovey but not spending your weekends together as a couple is gunna drive her, and who knows, maybe even you, nuts. Or, based on her qualities you claim, I'm sure you can find someone in the main hangar to take good care of her while you're on the otter... remember, I'm the one in black and orange.

I did that in Moab my first time opening the door... Green light to red light, not one person made it out.

Ya, I'm normally good getting past Albuquerque and over the border, but the winds over those mountains before Trinidad cost me so much altitude I'm usually tucking my legs in by Denver to avoid kicking the A/C units on the apartments just North of downtown.

Touche

Thats what's great about GPS. You end up a couple hundred meters away from where you're supposed to be, it may take a while to realize it. You end up in New Mexico when you were expecting San Diego, it only takes a second.

I generally like to trust my eye's ability to gauge location 2 miles away over the ability of a super-redundant system using atomic clocks for precision.

PA deleted. Your one warning. You're attitude is what drives us 10, 20, 50, and 100 jump wonders to make bad decisions without consulting anyone of a considerably higher experience level. Many times when I tell someone with fewer jumps than me (of which there are many at our DZ lately) to go ask an instructor (the DZ.com motto) or someone with more knowledge in the matter, they relate a story when someone with your style of dialog has driven them away from the practice of inquiring before acting.

Well, I've got the 4 way done. I put in 48 formations, leaving out a couple no-brainers, like the star, to save space. the basic 2 way grips are done too. I'm not doing threeway, since it's the same as the 4 way stuff, just sans one person. 8 way is going to take a while, since there are almost 60 formations I found. 10 and 16 way will take even longer. I'll post whatever people want. I used the Fastrax illustrations and photoshop to make mine.

It would seem that the first edition of Freefalling 1 (2 - 20 ways) is no longer available anywhere. The second volume (21-64 ways) is all over, but not the first :(

Hi all, I'm trying to put together a binder of RW points for basically every number of people (3-way, 4-way, 5-way, 6way, etc) that I can find. Finding the 4-way stuff is not too hard, but finding the stuff for the unusual number of jumpers is alot tougher (like 12-ways, etc). Does anyone know of a site where I can find these? I know Terry at Eloy (an RW organizer) had a binder with all of this in it, which is where I got the idea, but I cant find where he found all the points. Thanks!

I take it this is different than the deluxe backpad? Is the price the same?

So, here is what I've gathered from this thread: - There is a huge difference between 25 jumps and 7 jumps. At 7 jumps, an AFF graduate is too dangerous to be trusted with a tested 100 jump coach, but at 25 jumps they are safe enough to be trusted with other 25 jumps A license holders - At 100 jumps, you cannot be qualified to coach. Even with hours of tunnel time, great teaching skills, and the recommendation of other instructors, you are not good enough to maintain a constant fall rate with a jumper who has performed well enough to graduate AFF. - Coaching is the same as AFF, since both should require about the same amount of experience. - If you have seen one person set a bad example as a coach, they are a fair representation of the entire coaching community. (By the way, using this logic, all of you are shitty skydivers. Sorry) - 1,000 jumps doesn't mean shit. Are you kidding me? Has skydiving gotten into such a submissive state of mind that someone with 1,000 jumps is going to say it doesn't mean anything? Sorry, but if you've done something 1,000 times and your best assessment of your skills is "shit," take up bowling. There is a difference between knowing one's ability and continuing to learn, and disregarding any experience level if there is someone with more jumps. Yes I know I'm one of those "100 jump wonders" and some of you will disregard anything I say because of it, which is fine, because ignorant people detract from a discussion anyways. But it looks like a lot of jumpers with a lot of jumps are putting a freefall's-time worth of thought into this or less. "I don't think anyone with 100 jumps is qualified to coach" Well maybe you were just shitty at 100 jumps, or maybe you were good, certainly good enough to coach, but have gotten so much better that you refuse to believe you were any good so long ago. Or maybe admitting a 100-jump-wonder is good enough to coach is hurting your ego, because you think it downplays your 8,000 jumps. I honestly can't tell why this opinion exists. Consider this: With the exception of one of my instructors (who had fewer jumps than any other AFF instructor at the time), it was my coaches, and other sub-200-jump skydivers that kept me in the sport long enough to start jumping with people with way more jumps. This is true for many of my friends too.

You'll be surprised with how much you learn in those 101 jumps. I know I was. I think my 100-jump coach was awesome. He explained what I needed to know, and was good enough in the air (great when compared to me at the time) to show me where I was lacking.