flyinryan

This is more on the lack of stearability/ lack of forward speed. What follows is just my opinion... Having had off heading openings that have left me facing the object I can tell you this, my training saved my life. Can you imagine what someone with NO training is going to do if his canopy opens and he is flying towards a building? Do you know how fast they are going to have to react if they have a ram air canopy that they staic lined off of a building? So not only will they have to react, but they will have to react properly without the benifit of training/drilling on skydives. So all in all I would say a round is the way to go. BASE 853

Bush has morals????? He has lied to our nation repeatedly involving this conflict. Lies he has told: 1) In his state of the union address an Jan. 28 2003 Bush made refrences to Iraq attempting to buy Uranium in Africa? Guess what that was based on documents that were shown to be false in LATE 2001! So are we to belive that Bush didn't read the intellegence reports coming out of the CIA for over a year? 2) Hussein Kamal, the son-in-law and chief of Iraq's weapons program who was killed by Sadam for deffecting, was considered an "intelligence bonanza". His testimony was used several times to prove that Iraq had a chemical weapons program in the 1980's and early 90's. Yet this very person testified that Iraq "while keeping the techincal know-how, destroyed their weapons". Like I said, he was considered a reliable source by intellegence comunities and was executed when he returned to Iraq. 3) Remember those aluminum tubes were supposed to be for nuclear weapons production? The International Atomic Energy Agency explicitly debunked those claims. So, there are three lies the president has told us. I would say that a government lying to its people is pretty amoral. Our war on terror is starting to remind me more and more of the movement started by everyone's favorite senetor from Wisconsin. Complete with lies, black listing, and the term "anti-american". BASE 853

Personally I think a round would be better for the average Joe. The lack of stearability would be one of it's best assets. Imaigne what would happen if you had multiple escape canopies in the air and you could stear, how many collisions do you think you would have? The other issue would be off heading openings, with a square I think the odds of a building strike are VERY high, bad body position + the fact that these folks probably are not going to react properly in the event of an off heading (which I think the bad body position would pretty much guarentee on a square). Now, I agree that if there were only a 5% survival rate that would be great if the survival rate were 0% for the alternative. But what happens when Executive Joe panics and jumps from a situation that had better then 0% surviavability? For the most part I belive the 5% survival rate of the building escape systems would be WAY less then waiting for rescue workers or walking out of the building. But hey, BR is cool. If they can make some money in the insurance game, good on them. BASE 853

I felt you brought up some very interesting things but I am left wondering: what is your point? BASE 853

ROFLMFAO Hey, if you can fit it in there you can take it off any object you wish. LOL BASE 853

Yeah, I agree. It's the best time to jump, because you can climb your object in the dark but jump in the light. My Avatar picture was taken at dawn. BASE 853

Thanks for the response. Now the follow up would be how deep can you go. Would you want to go to about the sall point, or is there a reason you would not want to go that deep. I also noticed that my Fox vtec only has one break setting, unlike say a friends Mojo's...what's the deal with that? Did BR find a not to go to deep. Also, I would imagine that these really deep brake settings would be a bitch slider due to the greater air speed. Don't know though. BASE 853

Okay, so I have noticed then when my vtec canopy gets near the stall point it seems to not fold up on itself but rather starts to fly in a more vertical direction, maintaining presurization trough the vents. Now it got me thinking...would it be a good idea to have a break setting just at the stall point (probably only good for slider off...with slider up you should have tracked soooooo far that off heading dosn't matter rigth )? In the event of an off heading opening you would be sinking and have very little forward speed, giving you more time to un-fuck yourself. One big question about this setup is: would the sink rate brought on by this setting eat up so much altitude that by the time you got un-fucked you would be too low???? I THINK this would work on vented canopies, but I don't know what effect valves would have. Also, I may be over looking somthing here. BR dosn't mention this in the manual...did they find some reason not to do this? What does eveyone else think? BASE 853

Independant like everyone else who was doing it? BASE 853

I think that this is important to discuss stuff like this. I have never meet d-dog so sharing info online is the only way to hear his thoughts. I think d-dog seems ( could be faking ) like a really knowlagable guy. And if you stop learning in BASE then you start increasing your chances of injury exponentailly. Yeah, that little velcro guy that will prvent bridle entaglment "should" also prevent flaping of the briddle from extracting the pin. Ofcourse if you are fallling long enough for the flaping of the bridle to be an issue you could just go stowed and negate that. As for the increased complexity...I think that is more of a personal opinion. I do not feel my Vertex is overly complex, but that is just my opinion. I also want to point out that the packing mistake that you mention was on a velcro rig. BASE 853

please explain the dangerous configuration. If you look at some velcro rigs they have a little velcro square at the bottom of the container that you can stick the bridle to. Is that enough to cause hesitation? BASE 853

One way of incorporating velcro into a pin rig would be to place a peice of velcor on the bridle and mate it to a peice of velcro just bellow the pins (after market stuff here). This way you could go hand held and any bridle flap would be stoped at the velcro. BASE 853

Disclaimer: I have jumped both velcro and pin rigs but I am NO expert. Just my opinion but... I disagree with D-dog. I think a pin rig is far superior to a velcro rig and here's why: You control the force needed to open the container. You can have the container secure for a high jump that may include areials or you can have the container open with next to no pull force for very low jumps. THIS IS ALSO A NEGATIVE!!!! It is one more thing to screw up...moral of the story: Don't fuck this up. Now I feel that a pin rig can do ANYTHING a velcro rig can plus more. Yes, there are "moving parts" to screw up but I feel that if you are BASE jumping you are smart enough to handle it. BASE 853

I second the vote for Ender's Game...amazing book. There is another one that I would recomend: "The Forever War" can't remember the author. Lazarus Long is a great charcter but the whole Edipus thing gets kinds weird. BASE 853

Just an observation I have made....(actually more of an anology)...and one refrence to Bernolli I jump a Fox Vtec canopy and have yet to put the valves/ vent covers on it (will eventually). Now, this is just analogy, but I think you could model the increasing porosity of old "F-111" as very small vents on the bottom of the canopy. I have noticed on my vented canopy that the sink rate seems high relative to a non-vented canopy...in this aplication I think that is a good thing but in swooping that would be a bad thing (I actually have video of the canopy doing a 180 pivot in place with out loosing any "rigidity" using only rear risers). To be fair I have not flown two of the same canopy that are only different in that one has vents and the other does not back to back to test this...just a fealing. BASE 853

Actually you can't kill any terrorists with this weapon. You have to find terrorists to use this weapon, and even then they will probably be in an urban setting in which case you probably couldn't avoid collateral damage with this weapon. But hey, it looks neat. BASE 853

You remember the tower collapse in NC? dude, I used to live there and I remember seeing that in the news. Of course I was like ten at the time and I had no idea why I thought such tall structures were sooooo cool. Now I know BASE 853

KARR = Knight Automate Roving Robot I am a dork! yeah BASE 853

Sci-fi channel is the channel that us engineering nerds watch to get our fix of the old Star Trek episodes and Knight Rider. Now if only I could find Airwolf I would be good to go. BASE 853

Grow up? Why would I want to do that? I am graduating from a The U of Minnesota this spring with a Chemical Engineering degree and will start working for Cargill a month later. But that is probably not what I am going to be doing forever...The Foundation for Law and Government (FLAG) has still not gotten back to me for the Knight Rider position Oh yeah, and Airwolf kicked ass too. Any one want to hire someone to BASE jump for a living? BASE 853

when I was a kid I figured my carrer path in life would be Micheal Knight's job or Captain Kirk's (Star Trek was cancled long before I was born, but reruns were on) job. BASE 853

not night rider...Knight Rider...A dramatic master piece staring David Haselhof and a talking Trans Am. It was a show from the early 80's, good stuff! BASE 853

Everyone on line right now, turn your tv to the SciFi channel. Knight Rider is on! BASE 853

First, let me say that this is great that people are discussing this. The best thing we can do is listen to as many opinions as possible. The U.S would NEVER do that.... We have. What about our use of chemical weapons in Vietnam (Agent Orange)? What about the government testing the effects of radiation on American school children (mentally handicaped children no less). Yes, using nuclear weapons may have shortened WWII, but in that case Japan ATTACKED US. I don't seem to remember Iraq attacking us. We have no proof of their involvement in 9/11...in fact there is a MUCH STRONGER link between Saudi Arabia and the 9/11 bombing (funding for their flight school) then there is between Iraq and Saudi Arabia. As for showing terrorist that we mean busniess. How? If we vaporize Iraq, does Osama become less likely to attack us? Does a terrorist cell operating out of Detroit become less effective if we turn Iraq into a parking lot? If anything it motivates them. We are setting a dangerous precedent here. Invading a soverign nation because 1) there government is different than our own so we need to liberate there people by killing a bunch of them or 2) they might sorta be linked to terrorists so lets show the other terroists we mean busniness by killing a whole bunch of people...where does it end? BASE 853

>>Nuking Iraq and all the terrorists on earth... What the hell. When did all the terrorists move to Iraq???? I seem to reacall that many of the 9/11 terrorists being educated in the U.S (payed for by Saudi Diplomats