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Agreed. STRONGLY agreed. GWB could speak like a child, have a wife who ran a stop sign and killed a guy - of course got away with it without even a personal apology to his family - and the real rub is that you think Michelle Obama dresses awefully. Not only is that bizzare, but most guys I know don't judge women's attire in a runway approach.

All of which cause the country to be run in an aweful fashion and perhaps even tilt the earth's rotation. Amazing, the rest of world is nothing but thrilled with Obama's election, all connies have to do is bitch about his wife's attire.

All the above actions would be illegal, so illegal is ok for us, not for them? Right, live in a rotten country or risk life and limb to better themselves; seems like what some of us do to make a living. It's not Cali's jurisdiction, it's Federal. Cali did pass I believe it was prop 200 to deny medical svs I think it was; Cali has taken measures that are within their jurisdiction.

Ooh. Speaking of killer. My bad, I posted and saw you did first.

As separate from the various posts/threads about Nancy Reagan and Barbara/Laura Bush, I'm sure. Speaking of killer, Laura Bush is not a tangent.

This illustrates the kind of rhetoric for which the RW stands. Go ahead and run teh country in the shitter, just do it in style and it's ok.

The border fence is a fucking waste of money. Let's build a fence around Arizona instead! Let me out first No way

What? Lush Rimjob is breaking into houses now?

The border fence is a fucking waste of money. Let's build a fence around Arizona instead! Let me out first

Yea, tghe senile guy who thought Reagan was a great president was the better choice. Let's see, Reagn: - Gave amnesty to all of the illegals - Tripled the debt in 8 years Hmm, not sure what your point is, seems you are confused. The fist fool was your fool; GWB. He signed the order and gavce out >300B, again, confused. What spending, please enumerate and support with citations. Explain how it is liberal spending and not conservative spending. The border is more under control now that ever, it's just that now it's more visible and more discussed. What's going on is what was going on when teh maggots were in control, but the opposite.

Maybe you'll get lucky and invest your retirement funds in a well regulated business like Bernie Madoff ran. Those pesky government regulators at the SEC really did their jobs as true conservatives would DREAM of, right? They made the appearance of regulating, while actually doing nothing at all. We all know that businesses will always act in the best interests of the citizens, so minimal to no government regulation and oversight is needed, right? The ShrubCo MMS is another great example of the predictable outcome of conservative ideals. Minimal to no government regulation and NO enforcement of what little regulations existed. Total cooperation with the industry that is supposed to be tightly regulated. That has worked out to be totally bitchin, hasn't it? You stupid fucks STILL don't get it, do you? You swallow the bullshit from the corporate media, hook, line, and sinker. The practical outcome of the policies you support is totally predictable and obvious. Why are people so gullible so as to support that which is clearly NOT in their best interests? It is bizarre... Not to mention most of the debt was incurred under Republican presidents who inherited stable scenarios and left total disaters. Yet the fiscal righties are teh brilliant ones who are beneficial for this country?

Buyers remorse is starting to kick in for a lot of people. Of course, if they were a little smarter, they would have saw him for what he was in the very beginning. I guess that is what happens when you are blinded by ideology. I have a couple gripe with him, but I do with Clinton too. Mostly not getting out of Iraq/AFG. As for buyer's remorse, we had a selection of 2, down, down Ron Paul fanatics, there were 2 real choices. So we had this porgressive guy who has really brought the economy out of a hole that was on teh brink of another 10-year depression and the other guy, a guy who embraced Reagan's pump the militiary up as see how fast we can triple the debt. Anyone who thinks that Reagan was a great military leader and then criticizes Clinton's lobbing of missles to an asprin factory after the USS Cole, nothing after the Beirut barracks attack killing 300+ marines, is truely not being honest. Anyone who thinks that Reagan was a great fiscal leader for tripling the debt, a stable debt into a mess that would take 12 years after Reagan left office and an additional < 2.5T to stabilize is also not being honest. Why is this relevant? MCCAIN THOUGHT THE WORLD OF REAGAN AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD YET ANOTHER SENILE OLD COOT WHO THINKS TAX CUTS, MY FRIENDS ACTUALLY HELP THINGS. So as for buyer's remorse, get real. Either that or defend Reagan's mess, because that's what we would have had. That said, I think Obama has done a great job < 2 years into one of the worst conditioned governments a person could inherit. In order to disagree a person must pretend we weren't on the brink of a total fiscal collapse and not engaged in 2 messy wars, started on ill premise.

Nothing relevant to add? How bizzare .

This is the same horseshit reason GWB gave for not visiting the area but for a quicky fly-over after Katrina. The 2 disasters are quite different, here, Obama can only do administrative duties in making BP pay and for BP for stop the leak as quickly as possible. Whereas Katrina was know about days or weeks in advance and GWB could have had the guard there standing to aid people. The 2 disasters and COMPLETELY different in regard to rescue/relief, Obama's presence hinders exactly zero and shows he's personally surveying the situation, now he has to firce your beloved oil companies off their 75M damage cap, it'll be fun to watch you spin that one considering the RW is kinda stuck here in that they hate Obama, but also hate anything that damages big corporation.

There is no correct number of times for him to visit. Whatever number it is, the right will whine that it's wrong. Oh, but Belgian isn't the right wing , he voted for Obama Well, you finally made an accurate post. Congratulations.

There is no correct number of times for him to visit. Whatever number it is, the right will whine that it's wrong. Oh, but Belgian isn't the right wing , he voted for Obama

And if she didn't smoke you would find another reason to call her a dumbass. Someone that believes that shooting themselves will improve their medical condition is in fact a dumbass. Despite what the movies suggest, getting shot in the shoulder isn't a minor inconvenience. And orthopedic surgeons aren't generally in the ER. When I broke my proximal humerus - they put me in a sling and said go see the ortho in a few days after the initial swelling went down. You missed the point, whoooosh. Altho it's special you come to the rescue of your conservative buddy, the point I was making didn't dispute shooting yourself for generally any reason is stupid, but that conservatives feel that not throwing everything at and for corporations is stupid. This is very utilitarian in a corporate-loving sense. As for movies, wtf does that have to do with anything? I've attended anatomy and physiology 1 and 2 (201 / 202), I think I get human physiology far more than do you. Furthermore, it sounds as if she grazed the flesh by the article.

nice going, he lives for these comments And you guys live for dodging them; almost symbiotic.

And if she didn't smoke you would find another reason to call her a dumbass. I'm with you, kick her to the street, she isn't an elitist who deserves basic HC; we're on the same page here. The day everyone gets HC regardless of their working status, wealth, etc is the day I'm moving away, HC is a luxury GD it, brother, we're on the same page here.

I haven't made that inferrence. Yep, Obama was right to not raisse taxes yet, but as teh economy recovers, it will be time to let GWB's tax cuts expire and then move on to some more increases in time. It worked for Clinton, why can't it work now? Just as tax cuts have just kept the deficit up, they did the same under GWb, aside from spending issues. Who knows, but as bad as that would be, the silver lining would be that it would force our dollar lower, making us bring manufacturing back. I have DSL cable, but other than that I'm the same. And when I do jump, I'm jumping an 8 yo rig; no niceties for me either. Therte inlies the rub; what's important to some is wasteful to others. Our predecessors have; it's Americana.

And amazingly it ws the young vote that elected Obama, at least they were the difference-maker. Obviously debt is the killer, if our GDP falls or our debt payments cannot be made to support it, it could be the real killer. My question is this: What do we do? Hoover tried that in the beginning of the GD, it cost us plenty, then he raised taxes, as did FDR and 10 years later it was somewhat better. What is your proposition? Raise taxes? Kill all social programs? Vastly cut the military? Remember, these so-called wasteful programs also supply jobs, which is why after most wars there is a post-war recession. I like social programs over military ones in that it helps 2-fold: peopel receive help and generally the jobs created aren't the 150k/yr engineer-type where fewer jobs are created at higher salaries. Military expansion creates jobs, but it seems the wealth is more grouped rather than distributed. As well, building tanks kills people, building hospitals helps people and creates long-term jobs that will carry on decades after the war, after the tanks kill thousands and is then blown up itself. As for: Quit acting as if us paying for our predecesor's mess and passing it on to our successors was a new concept That may bother you, but if it's so horrible, then you're saying America is horrible because taht is how it' s been as we declared our national status 75M in debt. I'm not pro-debt, I'm just calling it how it is. I'm just saying that it can only go on so long at the scale it's gotten to. Trying to make it look like I think America is horrible for saying so is kind of a low blow. James Quit being paranoid, I'm not transposing that assertion. I'm saying debt is as American as apple pie, mom and Chevy. You don't have to like it, but it is American to be a debtor nation, not that I accept it as ok to be this far in debt either. This is what I will say: Being a person who declares that they hate massive debt, I hope you didn't vote for Reagan or GWB or you only have yourself and your electorate to blame. GHWB did what he could, Clinton really kicked ass. The real issue that taxes are megga-low, they are almost at Great Depression levels. Taxes high = government is controlling the finances. Taxes low = corporations are controlling the finances. Any question as to which works better?

A really great president that had to deal with a senile, fascist president and a complete moron as a son. I hope history doesn't remember him as a Reagan-type neo-con; he deserves better.

And amazingly it ws the young vote that elected Obama, at least they were the difference-maker. Obviously debt is the killer, if our GDP falls or our debt payments cannot be made to support it, it could be the real killer. My question is this: What do we do? Hoover tried that in the beginning of the GD, it cost us plenty, then he raised taxes, as did FDR and 10 years later it was somewhat better. What is your proposition? Raise taxes? Kill all social programs? Vastly cut the military? Remember, these so-called wasteful programs also supply jobs, which is why after most wars there is a post-war recession. I like social programs over military ones in that it helps 2-fold: peopel receive help and generally the jobs created aren't the 150k/yr engineer-type where fewer jobs are created at higher salaries. Military expansion creates jobs, but it seems the wealth is more grouped rather than distributed. As well, building tanks kills people, building hospitals helps people and creates long-term jobs that will carry on decades after the war, after the tanks kill thousands and is then blown up itself. As for: Quit acting as if us paying for our predecesor's mess and passing it on to our successors was a new concept That may bother you, but if it's so horrible, then you're saying America is horrible because taht is how it' s been as we declared our national status 75M in debt. I'm not pro-debt, I'm just calling it how it is.

I would hope not. Our military budget is easily twice that necessary to keep America safe and secure. Always has been, since about 1950 (although, interestingly, the one president who really tried to reduce it was not a Dem, but Eisenhower, because his background gave him a unique understanding of strategic defense issues, as well as the symbiotic politics between the military-industrial establishment and Congress). Were it not for that, along with the idiotic American national religion called "anti-socialism", the US would long since have been able to afford a comprehensive national health insurance program, instead of being the ONLY major industrialized nation on Earth not to have one. Now let's all take out our checkbooks and buy ourselves another aircraft carrier. Certainly Eisenhower was the best at trying to diminish the M.I.C., but GHWB and Clinton did as well, not as much and not as vocally, but they did what reductions they could after Reagan blew it up.

. Equally as funny is when intelligent progressives like yourself think that Barak and W are the same, and are OK with it. Where did Kallend infer they were the same?????