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It's the, "I'm so in fucking control I can be illiterate, so fuck you all" mentality. Bush wrote it, McSame is 90% of Bush, so he has the same protocol. Dems generally pride themselves on their literacy, so many Repub politicians seem to have this cavalier attitude that it doesn't matter and is a sign of being tough to be also stupid-n-proud. Have people missed McSame's, "troopshhhh?" Hey, as bad as Bush is, remember the GOP chose him over McCain in 2000. What does that say about McCain? Yea, what does that say about the GOP voting base?

Isn't it short-sighted to look at tomorrow's taxes and not several years/decades from now? It took Clinton 8 years to go from a 250B/yr debt increase to 33B/yr increase, then King George threw it up over 500B/yr on a whim. Do you think this debt thing is a joke? Do you think it's a meaningless number? The future will show us that it certainly is not.

So not being aware of the cruelty to humans caused by trucking is an excuse to not feel for the victims and want change? Well, I'm here to tell ya that trucks kill many people everyday and cars, isn't it like 38k/yr.... so to drive is to advocate the killing of innocent humans. We must move to live, we must eat to live, but we don't need to eat animals to live. In fact, we live better when we don't. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I just say if you talk the talk you better be ready to take one for the team and walk the walk. With that reasoning if we don't hate everything about child rapists and killers, then we don't have to care about the victims; I believe we all in here do. What I'm saying is that puttng blinders on isn't absolution to the need to feel. Think of the lab animals shaking and trying to survive. Think of them fearing when the next human come sin to inject something into them, drop something into their eyes.....then comes darkness and the pain.

It's the, "I'm so in fucking control I can be illiterate, so fuck you all" mentality. Bush wrote it, McSame is 90% of Bush, so he has the same protocol. Dems generally pride themselves on their literacy, so many Repub politicians seem to have this cavalier attitude that it doesn't matter and is a sign of being tough to be also stupid-n-proud. Have people missed McSame's, "troopshhhh?"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You may have read recently how the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) recently caused $20-30,000 damage to the house of a scientist, because the scientist’s work includes animal testing. Actually, the scientist was lucky: the ALF really wanted to burn the house down but settled instead for merely flooding the place. Nice. I don't contribute to any of these networks, don't receive newletters, nothing, but I agree with what they do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Thank goodness for IV drips. IV drips. That would be those same intravenous anaesthetics that were tested on rats, rabbits, dogs, cats and monkeys. Apparently she’s not opposed to that animal testing. So unopposed that she thanks "goodness" for it. The testing has been done for IV drip, can't undo that, just future testing. Get her point? So to avoid any technology gained from animal testing in teh past would be like black Americans refusing to use use cotton. >>>>>>>>>>>>>Another fucking hypocrite. I'm guessing you are descent guy, good to humans and all, but what gets me is that you use products brought to us by tractor trailer when they sometimes kill people in auto accidents. We're all hypocrites, the point here is to get away from this mass testing of animals. If they aired the goings on inside slaughter houses and animal labs in a real time sense, it would turn the world on its ear, which is why they keep it secret, just like a lot of realities in the US.

And he's donating most of his fortune to charity via the Bill Gates Foundation after he dies, so what's your point?

Well, they're right. Not to mention the petfood industry that uses factory farmed animals.

That was 18 years ago, Bill wrote, "nowadays." As well, I'm a vegetarian, not a vegan, but if it comes to me or them it's me, fortunately we are far from there. So to say that a person that advocates PETA but uses animal products in emergency cases is a hypocrite is like saying a person who claims to love mankind but uses products brought to us via trucks, trucks kill people on teh roads everyday; hence that person is a hypocrite too. Survival is survival, eating theing because they taste good but cause pain is another thing.

It's like supporting any political party; some of their ideas are great, but they go extreme and lose that what is great. I think the idea behind PETA with this mess is that they want to point out that dairy cows are treated inhumanely.

I don't know, I don't think so. Some of the people who claim to be known use: Rob from Florida, so many people are anonymous, even if they claim they aren't. Man y experts, cops would assert that being anonymous is smart with all the nuts out there. Has anyone ever been attacked/stalked due to an online forum? I'm sure. Yep. My last name on this account is not my real one. My real last name is unique enough that there is only one of me in the world. Other than that this is all me. Funny how a lot o fthe people crying for names are the ones who are brad from Tennessee.

Changing the constitution to abolish the EC according to the formula set out by those wise men would detract from neither the country's constitutionality nor its republicanism. The constitution is not sacred; that is why it has an amending formula. Agreed, revering a document that was written by slave owners, rapists and murderers as sacred is nuts.

My state gets to vote for the religious nuts to abolish gay marriage.

Yeah. It helps give a fair shake to each state in the union. Life styles can be wildly different between each state. For instance, someone from Montana or Oklahoma won't necessarily agree with the choices of someone from California or New York. So going to a popular vote system, those states with the lower population, but are equally important to the welfare of the US would loose a percentage of their now held ability to effect national electoral outcomes. This is even more important as Congress and the Senate have lost (given up) much of their power to the POTUS, which is an unfortunate reality now. That erosion really started with Lincoln and has expanded to a scary situation in the modern era. After having studied the history involved, its obvious to me that the system should stay in place. It prevents any one over populated state from controlling the other 49. I wish we had more constitutionalists in politics. Well, that's not correct, they are in politics, but they aren't widely elected to national posts. The reason is clearly explained in the Federalist Papers (#68) and has nothing whatsoever to do with giving "a fair shake" to anyone. It has to do with the elite of the time distrusting the masses to make a correct decision. The EC guaranteed that the elite would have the say in selecting the president. Yep, they started pretending equality even back then, they're much better pretending now.

Yeah, it's just puzzling to me why this system is still in place. No matter what side of the spectrum you stand on you have to feel disenfranchised in certain states (Cali if you're Repub for example). Out of curiousity - if this system was abolished to a true 1 person, 1 vote system - would that open the door for new parties? Seems to me like people would be more likely to vote a certain way if they didn't feel like their vote would be totally discounted since the state would never go in 'their' direction (green/independent/etc). Ian It's not just republicans. It's everybody here in CA. Why bother going to the polls when Obama is going to win this state anyway? So I can say I'm part of the system? It's crap I say. Well this way you can still try to load the Congress full of lovely individuals.... they did such a good job running the country for Bush's 1st 5.5 years.

Would you bother opening teh beer bottle?

10 years? Brilliant, gotta tie everything into the Clinton Admin, even if you have to fabricate. I bought a house 10 years ago, they were reasonably priced wth 7% interest. They would appreciate about 4-5% per year; nothing crazy about it.

Yea, no makey sense. Do you mean the FAA? Ananlogy doesn't work.

James Carville is also married to a prominent GOP consultant. I guess that makes him a right-winger, too. Or it makes Mary Matlin lefty. MArriage and appointments are quite different.

Yea, esp the, "whining" comment. I guess we are still just whining about the trillion dollar meltdown. We're whining about the unemplyment rate skyrocketing now. We're whining about no/crappy healthcare too. McSame has it nailed

True. He's used to voting "Yes" to all of Bush's proposals. Clearly those have worked well for us and a "Present" vote is a 50% yes/50% no vote, but at least McCain takes a stand. That's like saying usually doing the thing is better than usually doing the right thing.

So now Bush is a lefty. www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ah.jHxhtGE7M&refer=home Well, I have never said he was a conservative Well what does it take to be one then? Do you have to display the armband or just be a typical dictator? He's one of the most incomptent neo-cons ever and in his incompetence he has done some things like telling congress he would sign the extension o fthe assault weapons ban if they sent it, a liberla thing. Truth is, he isn't liberal, just confused and a puppet. He feels comfortable having someone else run the country which is why no veto for the first 5.5 years. All who voted for Bush s/b proud.

As pro-gun as I am, the thought of 15-20T debt in 8 is enough to steer me away from the crusty old fart. Remember, the SCOTUS just made that decision, so they are the ultimate legislators, even if tehy are in the judicial branch.

I don't know, I don't think so. Some of the people who claim to be known use: Rob from Florida, so many people are anonymous, even if they claim they aren't. Man y experts, cops would assert that being anonymous is smart with all the nuts out there. Has anyone ever been attacked/stalked due to an online forum? I'm sure.

Not me. I just tell em to fuck off and quit. I'm never fast enough, they fire me first.

I'm the exact same person outside of here that I am in here, I have job firings to "prove" it.