Kelly

thanks for the confirmation guys. this got me thinking so much that i sat down and attempted to recreate the mal. I found exactly what you said allan, that a sort of slip knot, for lack of a better word, could develop and cause it to happen. Im sorta anal so i dont like not knowing everything i possibly can. this is one more piece of info to get stored away... thanks again, kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

I have an extra bedroom with bed and all amenities!! ************************************************* Is the sis feeling sick? she actually offered an extra bed to a girl.. no claims that the only one in the house are hers and that the guest must share!

hmmm. texas is on the way to arizona... hmmm. I just might have to stop by and visit. but no jumping :( "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

.....and to think that my best shots involved nailing barbie square in forehead from about 50 meters and also knockin out G.I. JOE's kneecaps from about half that distance with a B.B.Gun. am i the only one that use to put the old toys to rest? BTW, i was about 10 when i did this. "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

merrick can still wear the dress without the panties! (as the marilyn monroe air vent scene comes to mind..) hmmm. MERRICK, BE MARILYN MONROE FOR HOLLOWEEN!! WEAR THE DRESS! AND THE WIG! AND THE LIPSTICK!!!!!!!!! kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

oh yeah one more thing: even after my rough landing, the injuries, and the time off, the need to get recurrent, the new gear that im not ready for now (cause of the injuries), the total fear that was dominating my mind right before i hit, I still love it. That accident was totally my fault. It had nothing to do with the canopy, the size, or the wing loading. it was completely me. Now granted, i could jump a canopy that 'eases in' more, but i dont want that. Im more than satisfied with the spectre. nough said. kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

April, lemme tell ya~ I absolutely love the Spectre's that ive jumped (190, 170, 150 and going to be a 135). I like the fact that its a 7 cell and I absolutely love the fact that its 'ground hungry'. I dont remember much about the Sabre, I only jumped one 3 times. I learned a lot about the spectre by doing H&P's from full altitude. Each time that I downsize my first jump is a H&P from as high as I can get. I can practice everything imaginable from that high. and as I downsized I was able to see the difference in flight and landing. It seems that the smaller I go the easier the landings are.. And thats why I purchased a 135 (loading a tiny bit less than 1:1) before I even jumped one. A friend of mine had to land off... He misjudged the distance needed for landing and ended up going thru a couple of weak trees. He was jumping a nine cell, not as ground hungry (name withheld). If he had been jumping a spectre and turned final at the same alti he wouldnt have hit the trees. Hope you love the spectre as much as I do! Remeber that on occasion something is going to happen that will make want to land as quickly as possible. that is the moment that you realize how much you love your spectre

not to encourage taking your cypres in the pool with ya but heres what i witnessed from a cypres: a friend of mine was swooping the golf course pond. He screwed up and hit the water halfway thru the landing. First he hit and bounced, then he had to doggy paddle to shore. then he had to strain up to the bank.. finally we were able to pull him out. All together he was in the water for about 3 minutes. his cypres was in there for probably a few seconds longer. we immediately popped his reserve and a rigger (who happened to be there) removed the cypres. I took it and dried it off with a friends shirt. Then i gently turned it so that the part where the wires run into it were upsidedown. I gently banged it against my knee, and water dripped out rapidly. We kept wiping it down. turns out the cypres was perfectly fine. no damage done. just so ya know~ sometimes they can be subjected to a lot of water and still work perfectly fine. I just see no reason to run out and get them, unless youre a hard core pond swooper and find yourself above water about as much as youre boarding a jump plane. "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

hey guys! i have plans! whoo hee! i put in my request for a leave from the ambulance squad tonight and it was approved. I will be leaving jersey between November 1st and the 15th, sometime within that 2 week time period. what im looking for is anyone or anyones skydiving friends (you florida folks!) who are looking for a ride to the west coast, eloy actually, but perris is an option. Im more or less looking for somebody to make part of the long drive with me, helping with gas $ would be greatly appreciated too (and kinda expected

we could all do our part to let the general public know the dangers of these building escape parachutes.. print out the article (its already been aproved for public reading..right?) and copy them. distribuate them. put them up at the local grocery store, wawa, walmart whatever. they all have free ad's boards. do your part. educate the whuffos. kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

snowflake, check the archives here. there is an article regarding the FAA's ruling that a Cypres is not a dangerous iteam. Its a good article to print out, and take with you. kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

sangiro, why dont you invite him into our thread regarding this matter. He would have no idea whats coming to him. you know that your little skydivers here would teach him a lesson or two. if he shows up, do we have permission to bite back? lol kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

christian, hey. i should be in eloy for thanksgiving. not definate yet, but im planning to go there and get recurrent before i leave for australia. youre from LA? how far from eloy is that? kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

billvon, thankyou. some people had said "im sure it has happened before." but hearing someone actually say "yeah, ive heard where it happened before" just seems a bit more um..not believeable cause i saw the results, something obviously went wrong, but a bit more um, likely. thats it, likely. its just so odd that her bridal didnt wrap. it was like her PC was just tied in a knot, simple as that. but it wasnt that simple. Tommorrow im going to ask the riggers to show me how this could have happened. they demonstrated it tongiht but i missed that... if i learn anything new ill let you guys know! thanks billvon. kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

glad to see you are okay.... speaking of malfunctions, i have a post going in both the Safety and training and the gear and rigging forums.. the WHOLE discussion between me and jimbo is going on in the gear forum... Im asking you guys to go there and read this story about this really weird malfunction.... its something ive never heard of, and chances are, a lot of people havent. please go read, think about it, analize it, if you know how it could have occured, please tell me!!! this is really buggin me. kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

oh god, i dont know how to explain this any other way.. this is why im wondering how this couldnt have been Packer induced. Thinking it was packer induced i could easily see how this could have happened, but if it wasnt... how could the bridal/PC bounce around in the burble and the PC knot itself? even IF the bridal wrapped around the PC, or maybe even the PC handle, and that caused it to loop thru the PC... but im telling you JImbo, I saw it for myself. I held it, i examined it, with The Rigger who runs the Packing matt standing right there. The PC was knotted around itself. the bridal was hanging down connected to the Main canopy. I know that it wasnt altered, cause when i mentioned we should take a picture of it This same rigger said "that IS a good idea, but they untied the PC... we could duplicate it but that wouldnt be acurate, it wouldnt be what it originally looked like. SO i know that the bridal wasnt unwrapped before i saw it. I was so confused by this, so i was really examining it with this rigger. it looked like the PC was looped in half, the orange handle pulled over and under and thru the hole.. then tightened. Im wondering how a burble, how Freefall, how a full arm extention could cause this. Im not saying in any way that this was an intentional act, I simply say 'was looped in half..." to give you a visual.. but im 100% sure that the PC handle somehow got worked around the material and was looped thru. I know that there wasnt any bridal there. Im 100% sure the bridal wasnt wrapped around the PC in the end... maybe it wrapped and that caused the knot to slip up to contain only the PC, but there was NO bridal around that PC. Im more sure of that than i am that this cast on my leg is neon green... and youve seen the cast, its neon green. so that is where my question comes from, how the hell did that PC wrap around itself? i can totally see how that would happen, pushing the PC into the pouch by the handle, while accidently pushing it between two parts of material.. flatten the pouch by your preffered method, pull the handle out, youde never realize you just routed that PC handle between two bits of material.. "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

jimbo, straight out of the woods, right into the hanger, there was NO bridal around the PC, just a knotted PC hanging from the bridal. sure , the PC and the bridal could have wrapped, but what im asking is would that have caused the knot to tighten up to contain only the PC? like, the bridal wraps around the PC, causing a knot... that knot tightens and moves up to the PC....? I saw it for myself, the bridal wasnt wrapped around the PC causing a knot. the PC handle had gone between two bits of material and tightened up. Imagine taking your PC and pulling the handle thru the middle of it, knotting it. Now, imagine taking the bridal and tying it around the PC very tightly. THis second scenario wasnt what I saw tonight. .... see why im asking? im confused as can be. kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

seems i may have worded something incorrectly. The bridal was obviously involved in this malfunction. but the bridal was not knotted around the PC. the PC was knotted around itself. It seemed like the handle found a way to get inbtween two pieces of PC material and then that knot tightened. but the bridal wasnt around any part of the knot or the PC. i saw it, held it , examined it, stared at it in confusion with a rigger right beside me, before the PC was messed with in anyway. so the bridal did play a big part in this, but it wasnt knotted around it which makes me wonder how a PC could knot around itself... "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

jimbo, what i ment when i said the bridal was not involved was this : the bridal wasnt wrapped around anything . the knot was contained entirely in the PC... sure, it played a part in the knot getting there, but the knot didnt have any parts of the bridal in it.. "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

Australian skysurf champ, from the IPOC skysurf team was rumored to have done a very high jump before... her name is Pauline Richards. is this true? or did somebody get her confused with another? i would have figured i would have heard this story from her teammate, a good friend of mine. "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

come on kingi, you know hed find a way to type with his toes... LoL "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

IM POSTING THIS IN THIS FORUM SO IT CAN BEEN SEEN BY THE FOLKS WHO READ THIS ONE. I ALSO POSTED IT IN THE SAFETY AND TRAINING FORUM. PLEASE JUST READ THIS HERE AND RESPOND IN THE SAFTETY AND TRAINING FORUM SO THINGS DONT GET CONFUSING. thanks!!!!! tonight a girl at the dz had the weirdest malfunction. On the ground we saw her at around 1,000 feet, nothing landable over her head, just a pilot chute out. Her reserve fired/or she pulled... either way she was in cypres territory. Next thing we see is her under a good reserve around 700 feet, with her stuff trailing behind her.. from what it looked like on the ground it seemed like it was her main, not inflated at all. it looked too big to be her bridal/ pilot chute, but than again, ive never seen an uniflated/uncutaway main that low before, so it just could have been her bridal and pilot chute looking huge.. so the main released from the risers at about 700 feet, she turned, and basically landed seconds later. shes fairly new, and doesnt own her own gear yet, so she was a bit confused too, and worked up. when they recovered the main and brought it in the hanger it was out of the bag, but im not sure if somebody pulled it out.. Her pilot chute was knotted. yes, knotted, as in in a knot. She uses a throw out, and its got the orange handle, not the hackey. The orange handle had somehow worked its way around the pilot chute and knotted it, no bridal was included in this knot, strictly the P.C. , and it was about halfway up the PC. were not sure if she initiated a cutaway that didnt activate (older gear, 3 ring might have had some 'memory' to it) right away then deployed her reserve or if she deployed reserve, it opened and then she cutaway. in any case, my question is: has anyone hear of a pilot chute knotting itself up? maybe a hesitation at full arm extention that allowed the bridal to loop up? she had a packer pack for her, but her packer distinctly recalls how she stowed the PC. she swears she didnt do anything differently. She is completely convinced that she didnt pack this mal. TO me it seems packer induced, shoving the PC in by the handle, the handle pushes between two parts of the PC.. she deploys, the pull of that tightens the knot.... but then the hestitation scenario was brought up. im wondering because ive never hear of anything like this, let alone actually seen it in front of my own eyes. I dont think i would have believed it if i didnt see it, but sure enough, that handle had somehow worked its way between the PC material and caused it to knot up. so have you heard of this? seen this? experienced it? what causes it? what scenario do you think caused it? "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

tonight a girl at the dz had the weirdest malfunction. On the ground we saw her at around 1,000 feet, nothing landable over her head, just a pilot chute out. Her reserve fired/or she pulled... either way she was in cypres territory. Next thing we see is her under a good reserve around 700 feet, with her stuff trailing behind her.. from what it looked like on the ground it seemed like it was her main, not inflated at all. it looked too big to be her bridal/ pilot chute, but than again, ive never seen an uniflated/uncutaway main that low before, so it just could have been her bridal and pilot chute looking huge.. so the main released from the risers at about 700 feet, she turned, and basically landed seconds later. shes fairly new, and doesnt own her own gear yet, so she was a bit confused too, and worked up. when they recovered the main and brought it in the hanger it was out of the bag, but im not sure if somebody pulled it out.. Her pilot chute was knotted. yes, knotted, as in in a knot. She uses a throw out, and its got the orange handle, not the hackey. The orange handle had somehow worked its way around the pilot chute and knotted it, no bridal was included in this knot, strictly the P.C. , and it was about halfway up the PC. were not sure if she initiated a cutaway that didnt activate (older gear, 3 ring might have had some 'memory' to it) right away then deployed her reserve or if she deployed reserve, it opened and then she cutaway. in any case, my question is: has anyone hear of a pilot chute knotting itself up? maybe a hesitation at full arm extention that allowed the bridal to loop up? she had a packer pack for her, but her packer distinctly recalls how she stowed the PC. she swears she didnt do anything differently. She is completely convinced that she didnt pack this mal. TO me it seems packer induced, shoving the PC in by the handle, the handle pushes between two parts of the PC.. she deploys, the pull of that tightens the knot.... but then the hestitation scenario was brought up. im wondering because ive never hear of anything like this, let alone actually seen it in front of my own eyes. I dont think i would have believed it if i didnt see it, but sure enough, that handle had somehow worked its way between the PC material and caused it to knot up. so have you heard of this? seen this? experienced it? what causes it? what scenario do you think caused it? "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many

whats with all of this talk about PUTTY packing

frank, that has to be the sweetest thing ive heard in a long time! Thankyou for taking a few moments to come back here and telling us that. Im sure im speaking for a lot of folks when i say that we miss you around here! Knowing you for a while now, im sure that you are doing an amazing job. Keep up the good work! ill think of you when i see a descent news ancor, knowing that somebody like you is behind them, only giving them the honest things to present to the public! hugs, kel "i can not attest to what i did, just what i remember...." ~me, after one too many