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So you are saying that Palin is 'not' a stupid twat? Got it.... I doubt she could find Iraq on a map

Sorry, I am not buying that. Palin created a lot of excitement initially, the soccer mom and all that, but as we got closer to voting day, most people had plenty of time to see just how fucking stupid she really is. I think she did him in. But not to say that anyone else would have done better. 8 years of GWB also did in the Republicans in general. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/31/us/politics/31poll.html?_r=0 just one example But back to the birth certificate.....why are we revisiting this again? The State of Hawaii already produced it. It is not actually the President's job to produce his own birth certificate. It's like saying I need to produce a passport. If I do not have one, I go to the government and get one. The GOVERNMENT actually issues the document. And in this case, that was done, signed sealed and delivered. I want to see the Republicans put Ted Cruz on the plate for 2016 and then explain the 'naturalized citizen' thing all to us again..... I have every bit of confidence that the Republicans will attempt to win in 2016 by putting "really stupid and crazy" on the ticket. can't wait.

How much food was thrown out BEFORE food stamps? Probably about the same. How much does it cost to recycle and distribute thrown out food? Who knows, but I bet you did not think of that. oversimplification of complex problems.

http://strongparachutes.com/docs/Tandem/DHT_2012.pdf page 11

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show me the source for the 49% number. My source shows an increase each year, but granted the rate per 100,000 people has been about the same for 15 or so years.

Not true, there are lots of ideas from lots of different groups on the table, even the simple idea of more closely scrutinizing the people allowed to get a carry permit. or to buy a weapon. ALL those ideas, all of them, every single one of them, are fought by the gun lobby. The gun lobby does NOT support any change, and that is clearly demonstrated in their actions. Name something that the NRA has put forth as a solution to gun violence. And also show me the letter you wrote to your congressmen requesting that a law inquiring training for all gun owners.....I am willing to bet you have not done that. I have. And it is just one of the possible solutions to some of the problems.

there are more guns on the streets and there are no/few new regulations to control them. There are more people being killed by guns than there were 30 years ago. However, for example, there are fewer people dying of smoking that 30 years ago. And there are fewer people dying from heart disease than 30 years ago. So perhaps (in some cases) we do actually care and ACT regarding the value of human life. The 'Action' we take for guns is to further deregulate them (assault weapons ban, recalling politicians etc), and put more of them out there and then claim that the USA is safer . point made.

Every year we make CHANGES to help alcohol abuse and drug policies. Every year we make CHANGES to help smoking and the results of it Every year we make CHANGES to help heart disease. seemingly every year we REGRESS on guns..... thanks for making my point. Not only do you agree that we do not care about human life, you also support my argument that the gun lobby is not willing to change even if it might help the numbers. And I notice you did not dispute my point about the USA having the highest gun-by-death rate in the civilized world. 12 more today. yippee.....

define 'crime'. more people get killed by handguns in the USA every year that any other country (civilized) in the world. fact, indisputable, bar none, that is the reality. I understand COMPLETELY that the Constitution is there to allow this, however, the gun lobby DOES NOT have a solution to 8000 people getting killed by handguns every year. that is my point. I never claimed to have a solution, but I also assert once again, in the face of whatever twisted definitions you might care to try and put on all the 'facts' that you claim to have, the USA has a higher death-by-gun rate that most countries in the civilized world. and that is a problem IMO, and that is obviously NOT a problem in your opinion. My previous statements stand. The constitution allows assholes to carry guns and they can act recklessly and irresponsibly. Army Rangers can carry guns, (as well as others that are highly trained in the art of gun play) and they are less of a problem. The USA would be better off if 270,000,000 guns were in the hands of well trained people instead of assholes. I understand that you stand by your 'rights. That does not mean that there is a 'problem'. Politicians have the 'right' to tkae money from large corporations and then ignore the people that put them in office. It is their 'right'. It does not mean that there is not a 'problem'. And the gun debate helps to make my larger case that Americans especially really do not give a fuck about human life, despite their repeated claims that they do.

given that sort of logic, I should then be allowed to freely test my capabilities as a neurosurgeon without ANY REPERCUSSIONS whatsoever, for the results of my actions. We 'freely accept' regulations in may parts of our lives every single day because we do not 'trust people'. From drugs to speeding, to filing your tax returns, to handshake business deals with a simple signed contract. The 2nd Amendments' biggest flaw is that it assumes that everyone is capable and responsible when handling a firearm. And they are not. not even close. Not remotely so.

I never said I had a solution, but I am also suggested that gun lobby does not have one either. more guns = more people getting shot with guns. The USA demonstrates it clearly, and would demonstrate even MORE clearly if the CDC had not been defunded to do any sort of research on the subject.

You will be in deep shit if the actions you take to defend yourself do not reach the scope of the threat that you are under. I think most courts and juries are OK with 'an eye for an eye'. Which means if you shoot a guy 6 times for verbally threatening you, it is excessive. If you shoot the guy who has a knife and coming at you, then you are justified. That is why I state that the amount of force is the privilege and that most people (untrained and ill-equipped) are not really capable of making those type of decisions. Army Ranger 'Tommy' with a handgun on his person at all times is not likely a threat to society. Assholes like George Zimmerman with a handgun at all times IS actually a threat to society. They both have the 'right'. They both do not even come close to having the training or decision making capability.

AS I SAID, nice try though. And if someone had a gun to your head, in a car jacking, I expect that gun would be to the side of your head and you would not know if his finger was 'tightening' or not. And gun-in-your-hand or not, I expect you would simply sit there and shit your pants instead of being able to do anything about it. Nice anecdote though, but that is all it is, an anecdote.'

it's a right. The amount of force that you are given to defend yourself/family/property is dynamic and is a privilege. And my argument is that most of us are not qualified in any way to make some of those decisions. Most of the time the qualification does not make any difference. We evade, we escape, we call 911, we confront, we do whatever. But when it comes to the use of deadly force, I think most people are not qualified to make a life or death decision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFtkJd8w5UQ you're allowed to kill your own people, it's not murder....

When is she leaving again? cannot be soon enough.

The deficit is an easy thing to fix, but no one, especially Congress appears to want to fix it. Everyone should pay some taxes. decide the programs you want and then arrange the tax system to pay for it. pretty frickin' simple. I expect household income is not what it used to be, combined with unemployment and those getting employed probably finding lower wage jobs, therefore adjusting the amount of taxes being paid and by whom.

and a letter I wrote some years ago in support of dz ops at the airport, talking about the real-time interactions that occur.

Like I said many many times, I am not safer, nor is society, just because some asshole like GZ is allowed to walk around with a gun. And that is one of the fundamental flaws in the US gun environment. There is, in fact, a gun problem. 'nuff said.

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like an eagle flying around inside a church has anything to do with religion.......

oversimplified nonsense.