Trent

If the "liberal half" is content to get selective news and biased reporting, they get what they deserve. And hey, if that's the majority this election season, then Kerry just might win. And then as they say, "people get the leadership they deserve". Oh, hello again!

I'd hardly call my view authoritarian christian. It isn't the media that's changed? Go look up some NYT articles from WW2. And the sheeple seem to be the ones buying into the most liberal views apparently, since according to Kallend that's where they're getting their news. Oh, hello again!

Kennedy's right. Reality has long been lost to some people. I notice that you don't respond to many parts of people's posts... especially when they're right. Who forces the other 6 or 7 million people NOT to buy the Times? Poverty? The fact that it's basically a rag? In a free market, imbalances are not always immediately corrected. It is starting though. And I don't recall it being such an imbalance until more recently when it became very obvious to some that there was a lot of selective journalism going on. EDIT- I'm rebutting your argument with that statement. Merely pointing out for you that maybe part of the reason there is only selected conservative or neutral reporting going on is because it is more close to reality and you don't need to hear it as much to know it's right. It takes much more repetition to get people to believe the BS. Oh, hello again!

Maybe you just need more than one network to sell bullshit. Facts and truth sell themselves to people who are smart enough to pay attention. Oh, hello again!

I'm not arguing against a free market system. Instead, I'm looking at what IS instead of what should/could be. If the majority of media is leaning left, wouldn't most reporters who wanted jobs need to fit in as well? Was CNN Turner's first entry into media? Or did he have other things going on that allowed him to build up to it? I guess he did it overnight, and I guess we should ignore Fox's success since it goes against your point. You asked why I didn't start my own media outlet. I told you. You then went to generalize my statements to apply to all conservatives. What did you call that debate tactic? Even if your hypothesis that there are more left media outlets because there are more left leaning people in the US were true... does a majority of people believing in something make it fact? Is it possible that you may have been one of the people who SWORE that the world was flat? Oh, hello again!

Think about the costs of setting up a media firm over the last 80 years, where you can expand using profits from business. Now, think about the cost of jumping in headfirst today to establish a full on company that will directly compete with existing ones. I guess economic feasibility is a concept that escapes the most brilliant liberal minds.... But hey, at least you got to throw in a nice one-liner! Oh, hello again!

You're smart enough to figure it out... money. Because they didn't start out being mouthpeices for the left. They started out as newspapers, radio stations, and tv stations that reported on what was going on, made lots of money, then used their position as "news" outlets to slip in opinions and political messages. Liberals didn't set them up to be propaganda machines. But if it keeps going the way it is, we'll probably see either more fact only media outlets, or conservative minded ones pop up. I take what action I can feasibly afford. I don't watch the crap on CNN and NBC. I do watch Fox when I can. And have you forgotten?? I express myself here. Now you definitely sound like those that you despise. People have been saying that about the left for years. What will you whine about if Kerry is president? What would make you not whine anymore? Oh, hello again!

Yeah, Dave... there's room in the swamp for both of us, big fella! I didn't think I was a whiner either, but I guess I am! That's just one of the things about Sharpton that are full on BS. All he does is self promote, issues be damned. Don't let your scottish ears listen to a word he says... he doesn't represent anyone! Oh, hello again!

I would say that you're a master of twisting a topic to an argument that you can win, but it's so easy to see you doing it. Go back and read our posts and find where I said there was an error in your post. Nice try to get into a debate on media free market. True, and unfortunately it didn't happen until it became clear that most existing media outlets were very left-leaning. I thought news was supposed to be facts anyway... I guess now between fox, talk radio and the left media the truth is out there somewhere. So stop whining about Bush and go vote. I'd say that whining also exists when you constantly complain about things you have NO power to change (ie the past). You do that a lot. ( I expect you'll want examples... just think "Iraq", "Bush", "Guns" just a few) So, is it a free market or an oligopoly spawned by virtually insurmountable barriers to entry? Oh, hello again!

I agree with you! I knew the day would come! It would be like Wrestlemania for politics. I think Ann would end up scratching some eyes out for sure. Jerry would have "Steve" beating some ass too I bet. Oh, hello again!

Listening to his ridiculous drivel for a few years was enough. I know he doesn't represent ALL the lefties, and I HOPE he doesn't represent that many of them. I doubt he has much insight into anything outside of his narrow view of the world and the people that hang around him. Yeah, he does have a big mouth... and subscribes to the school of debate that says "He who shouts the most wins". He and Jerry Springer would be great running mates someday. Oh, hello again!

I say Sharpton is a jackass and I'm whining, according to you. You asked for an explanation for my statement: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1100604;#1100604 Whine http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1101007;#1101007 Whine http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1101042;#1101042 Whine http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1100428;#1100428 Whine http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1090497;#1090497 Whine But that's just my opinion. I don't see how it is any more insulting than you telling me to stop whining. I just felt it was odd hearing someone telling me to stop whining when they take every chance they get to whine about Bush, Guns, etc. Honestly, I'm not going to whine about Sharpton being a liberal icon/pundit. If that's who's gonna represent liberal views, I'll just continue to laugh my ass off. Oh, hello again!

Nah, I lived in NY for 7 years, I've heard enough of Big Al's BS for a lifetime. Certainly they could have come up with someone other than the Jerry Springer of pseudo-politics... oh wait there's already a Jerry Springer of pseudo-politics... but you get the idea. Oh, hello again!

Another brilliant 2 line response. Is it just me, or are you starting to sound like the people you despise. Maybe you should read some of the posts you've put up and take your own advice. As for starting a newspaper... give me a few years. Oh, hello again!

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040603/ap_en_tv/tv_sharpton_cnbc CNBC's version of a qualified political commentator. It's almost worth watching the jackoff to see what spews from his mouth. Oh, hello again!

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We'll definitely throw a few out during SkyFest and the SUSA reunion on the 18th. Just show up and it's all good. Oh, hello again!

Yeah, we clearly sold them all those US made AK-47s and Mirage jets they used to have. We also sold them the Russian tanks they used to have. Maybe France and Russia want to look at all the trouble they caused by supplying Iraq with weapons in the late 80's till who-knows-when. Oh, hello again!

We've done a 20 way with 10 belly and 10 hangers. It was a round. We're working with our resident RW badasses to come up with something bigger. We just need more freeflyers who can do it! Oh, hello again!

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It's hopeless. I give up. It's clear you're just being obtuse for the sake of it. Oh, hello again!

Maybe they should have let the guy get off a shot that may or may not have killed them. Would that be better. I'm not a military guy or expert, but their actions look more than shady to me. And why would you go for a garden tool just after your homeboy was blown to bits a few feet away from you? Oh, wait, to wave the "cloth" right? Now you've seen the real vid. There shouldn't be too much left to argue. Oh, hello again!

Josh posted it, go watch it. Then tell me how innocent the situation looked and how the guy unwrapping the weapon REALLY looked like he was trying to say "I'm unarmed, don't shoot!" Oh, hello again!

Okay... yet another beleiver in all that appears on the net, especially with the pop up captions. Nah, that video wasn't edited to show what the producer wanted, was it? Don't be naive. So you said he was waving a "cloth" as if to say that he was unarmed. I forgot I was on DZ.com for a second and didn't quote you exactly, which lets you open up a semantics argument. I will find somewhere to post the unedited video. Then maybe you'll be clear on how manipulated you've been. Unbeleivable. Oh, hello again!

I just re-watched the unedited video again, and at no point does anyone wave a flag as if to surrender. What that .5 second "wave" was in the edited video is clear in the original. The guy is unwrapping whatever rpg looking thing he threw in the field earlier. So enough with the "he was surrendering" crap. Oh, hello again!