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I forgot about that one. We managed NOT to be on that load thankfully. Video shows the other plane in sight....scary. The pilots were not happy either if I remember corrrectly. We finished up that boogie out of the otter. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Do you stop at the door to spot and clear the airspace, or do you go blindly on faith? Bringing up an incident back in May 2001, but had Michelle or even some of the floaters on the king air checked the airspace for the otter and realized it wasn't where it should have been then maybe she would still be alive. On the formation loads in Eloy I was VERY nervous about where that other aircraft was supposed to be and where it was when I exited. I looked out the windows and again at exit time for me. I also look for traffic if I'm first out for my group. I admit I'm not a great spotter but I know what the area around my DZ looks like and I look out to make sure I recognize something. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

No offense but it would be nice if you two would take this somewhere else. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

See if I grab you a$$ next time I see you -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

I've already ordered a new Javelin and a new Sabre 2. I already have 2 cypreses so no need for another one. All I need now is a new helmet. The rest of the refund will go toward my Perris trip. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Hang in there sweetie and don't do anything drastic like join a convent. They probably wouldn't let me within a few miles of the place so then I'd never see you, so how could we be evil twins??? Oh, and please don't chang Viking. I really like him the way he is. (Now back off all you killers who want to make that into anything besided exactly what I just said.) -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Mouth waves to BB and blows her a kiss -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Replying to that previous link that was posted. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Don't even think about it JT. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Nice logo. Did you design it?? -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

You my friend are rotten. I don't have 4k but I'll be happy to buy you a jump in Perris. How's that????? Oh, and I did bring your bass to Eloy so I'm working on it. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Come on it wasn't that loud. Heck I wasn't even raising my voice yet. Between you and B^2 you'd think we shattered the sound barrier or something. Funny thing is I wore ear plugs for one jump last weekend and couldn't hear a thing so I was talking and yelling even louder. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Me either Lolie, especially since we all know I would never say anything silly here or with you guys. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Benning isn't far from me so maybe you can hit a GA DZ and we can jump together. Give me a shout. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

That's a good idea...now if I could just get JT to think that was a good idea. Being computer illiterate is a PITA sometimes. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Because they aren't responding. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

I don't think she was sick...I think she was scared! -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Bill...no pic there so I hope I don't look like a house. There is one pic somewhere from the Deland formation load with the gang but dang if I could even find it now. Someone needs to take pity on me and put a nice pic up under my name cause I sure can't. How about one of some hottie that doesn't post here so she won't mind my borrowing her pic?? Anyway, it used to be blonde highlighted up until Christmas when I went for a new look with the red highlights. Unfortunately the red fades quickly. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

JP, I have so enjoyed my pics. You are do bomb! Personally, I say take your time and do it right cause anything worth doing is worth doing right. Thank you so much for the time and energy you have put into this project. HUGS, -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

I got mine Friday evening and wore it all weekend. I only hope Chuck doesn't go around remembering everything we did while wearing them!!!! -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

Bill, hon, I don't have a picture. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

That was just way too much info for me, thanks Viking! Some things I would rather be oblivious to. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

0:3:1 My first number never changes so I'm going to have to change that to something else. At this point number of miles I drove will work. 912:3:1 Much better! One wonderful trip to Z Hills. What a blast. A really neat place with lots of kewl people. Met Derek Thomas (Sun Path) who along with about 5 others helped me pick out the sutff for my NEW JAVELIN ODESSEY and my NEW SABRE 2. Thanks Bill, Nicole, Katie, Chuck and Pat. Way to much to choose from but the personal attention was great cause I know it will fit. They also helped katie get her stuff straight and made sure she was squared away. 3 fun jumps as Bill has already attested to, but winds were nasty. Next time I come I would like to place an order for calm winds and warmer temps. Now Bill you know you enjoyed our sneaking up on you and making your day. That had to be the highlight of the weekend seeing your eyes get so BIG. Glad you enjoyed dinner. I had fun cooking and listening to the yums. PM on it's way, just remember I don't measure much. As for perfection....let's not even go there...I'm not. I guess I owed beer for a new DZ. I'll pay up for my rig and main when I get them. I bought some beer at the DZ and some at Bill and Nicole's plus the bottle of Vodka so maybe I'm almost even. All in all a wonderful weekend. Hopefully the doplar will be fixed before I get back! You guys kill me. I was CALM there compared to Eloy. -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

You better get better and stay that way for Perris. Hugs, -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.

I agree 100% that skydivers rock. I headed to Z Hills to meet up with Katie and Chuck for the weekend. I managed to meet tons of really cool people. Bill and Nicole were so gracious to open their home to us, Derek who was nice enough to fit me for a new rig on his day off, Billy who showed me the warm spot, Happythoughts who is simply a honey, and the list goes on and on but you get the point...... SKYDIVERS ARE THE GREATEST! -- Hot Mama At least you know where you stand even if it is in a pile of shit.