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Thanks guys. I'll dedicate a couple of dives to tracking without using my arms... I'm wondering how that would come out. Thnx for all the answers!! (if anyone comes down to Skydive Miami, and wanna track, PLZ look me up )
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Wow! Thanks for all the answers... Here's something that came up while reading.. 2-way tracking dives. I've wondered how to do them and not have it be a waste of time. For example... should I just pretend it's a solo and track as hard as I can while the other more experienced tracker watches me? What if I want to go with someone that is all not that good... what's a good plan? Another thing... about big tracking dives, I've seen pics of the people and I don't think any of them look to be in max track positions. Are big tracking dives more really for things like practicing positioning yourself in the air compared to max performace tracking? There aren't that many people in my DZ interested in tracking, but I can think of one or two that would go up with me... that's why I'm basically asking about plans for 2-way tracks, etc. Once again, all input appreciated.
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I understand it's not really that hard... but I'm not talking about the average track when breaking off from a 4-way. I'm talking about the kind of tracking we see in the Tracking Derby and other competitions.
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Well, this isn't my first post about tracking. This time I'm interested to hear what people have to say about "advancing" in tracking. I'd like to know how your learning curves have taken place... how did you start tracking, what changes did you make to improve, what obstacles did you have to overcome, at what points you seemed to be stuck, etc. All responses appreciated.
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Bill, I have a suggestion, from someone that was there not too long ago. On your first solo, simply just fall. Don't do any turns, flips, nothing. Just fall and look around all you want, until pull altitude. This will show you how much time you really have before pull time... it worked for me.
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looking for simple answers for general questions
OSOK replied to srsand1960's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
I never refered to you as a skygod, if that's what you understood. Read my post again. If you still don't get it, then I don't see how you plan on taking advice from people here. -
looking for simple answers for general questions
OSOK replied to srsand1960's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
That you think so highly of this is place is very cute, but what we're trying to tell you is that nothing comes second to a person that has seen you fly and knows your abilities. There are alot of skygods here, but I think the "ask your instructor first" mentality is a common thing in here. Take it as you want, but if something happens, when asked why it happened dont say "I read it at dropzone.com" And about the people jumping on others when giving bad advice... don't count on it to happen all the time. Edit: I don't want to bash you for wanting to learn so much, but becareful. When one is so hungry for information things can sneak inside one's mind before you realize they should've never done that. -
I seem to remember that theory pertains only to those items if they were in a vacuum I could be wrong, been awhile since I took physics... its probably true up to the point that one of them starts approaching terminal velocity. A can of beer and a tennis ball will both fall together for at least a story and probably more before the beer takes the lead That's exactly right... they accelerate at the same rate, but they have different terminal velocities. I guess in classrooms they say "they reach the ground at the same time" simply because 6 feet isnt enough for them to reach terminal.
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Thanks for the info reh. I'm pretty sure it's a basic skills camp, doing belly stuff. I think we're using the coaches that work there, and Pam will be coaching too I think... that makes me happy as she's an amazing skydiver. I asked around what I'd be learning and I was told besides the basics, the mantis... which is something I "really" wanna learn.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread, but reading this made me think of something... at our DZ every tandem student goes through a routine they are told will happen, which at the end consists of the TI showing the student their altimeter when pull time comes and then giving them the option to pull. My question is, is thing something only we do at our DZ? What made me think this was the "do you tell your student when you're going to pull" part of the original question.
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Not sure who the coach will be, but the organizer is Pam Manos, from my DZ.
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I think it's just basic coached time... we're going on a group from down here... we go every other 2 months or so.
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... what can I expect? I'm going for 45 minutes... what things will they teach me?
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Off topic, but curious: mind telling us how you broke your leg?
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Learning Things the Hard Way...
OSOK replied to jumpjunkie2004's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Yes. The most important thing on any landing (HP wing over swoops/carves excluded), into the wind, downwind, crosswind, is that you have a level canopy over your head. Trying to turn into the wind has caused countless unnecessary injuries in our sport. Go skim the incident reports and see how many low turn injury incidents you can find where it states "jumper was attempting to turn into the wind too low". Trust me, there are alot in there. You may not always stand up a cross wind landing, but with a level canopy over your head, chances are you will walk away from it with nothing more than a couple of grass stains. Ok, I think you got me wrong. I did not mean a turn as in "damn, I'm crosswind I need to face upwind to land right." I meant the kind of asymetrical flare where you're about to touch down and maybe didn't line it up 100% right and the canopy starts to fly a bit sideways, you compenstate to keep it level. -
Learning Things the Hard Way...
OSOK replied to jumpjunkie2004's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Excuse me if in wrong... but are you suggesting that it's better to land moving sideways as you land crossing than having an asymetrical flare to make sure you touch down going forward only? -
Hmm. When people track from big way RWs... do they use any kind of specific track? Is flat-tracking what is used for tracking competitions and such? Or is it just a matter of achieving the best horizontal-to-vertical ratio?
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I've searched around for this but couldn't find it. If it's been asked before, forgive me. Ok. I'm going to try to explain this as much as I can. I understand people can get some pretty small numbers when it comes to fall rates while tracking. If someone gets an average speed of 90s or so... is that an attainable speed of someone just flying as flat on his belly as possible? Basically what I'm asking is what's the slowest fall rate one can achieve on belly? I'd like to know the line where the only way to get a slow enough fall rate is by gaining extra lift from forward motion. Thanks!
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any info on the last one? sounds familiar.
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I do chest first then legs. I think with me, besides the way I was shown, it's more of a "top to bottom" thing. Like with most other things like checking the rig and the check of 3s... mine goes 3 rings, 3 buckles, 3 handles... all which follow the top to bottom rule.
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evaluation and response to main deployment
OSOK replied to crwpj's topic in General Skydiving Discussions
Mind explaning or PMing what the "sub-optimal position" was? It kinda happened to me too... When I started jumping the Sabre2 I'm jumping now (even a few jumps before I had gotten lazy about the controllability checks), it had a deflated end cell on the right that I didn't notice... only until when I went to turn it felt sluggish. I remind myself every time to really check for stuff now... -
It looks cool... but for some reason it has some blacked out areas... you might need to fix that if you want people to actually be able to reach you.
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I guess the "half full" side of that is "if you love your job, you dont have to work another day in your life."
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The "45 degree rule" for exit separation DOES NOT WORK
OSOK replied to kallend's topic in Safety and Training
Maybe he said something like "wait for the other group to be at least 45 degs from the plane" ?? -
There's also a HALO show going on... look it up.