Phil1111

"Well, the next time this happens Trump likely won't be in office to blame." ??

Both Coreece and Marc have made comments that they don't expect him to win re-election. I'm concerned that there won't be a hangin!

You're right of course but Marc, Barr and the whole trump tribe have become so emboldened since the senate integrity collapse. That throwing in a hanging or two seems reasonable along with the resurfacing of failed international policies.

I think the author of that piece got a little carried away. But you have accurately summarized how trump is able to surround himself with greater and higher sycophants.

"in Copenhagen, Muhammad Abu Sayeed, a Bangladeshi immigrant. Earns $22 an hour working at McDonalds. He has free health care"; The whole country is working today. C-19 under control. McDonald’s Workers in Denmark Pity Us

The machinations of trump Barr and his followers is coming to an end. Soon only Hannity will be left spinning the lies. Once the protections of the presidential office end. trump will have nowhere to hide.The long knives of the republican party will be sharpened and trump's back will look like porcupine. This time next year the cost to clean up trump's mess will become evident to all his former supporters. A $26 trillion federal debt Kim's new weapons, Iran emboldened and trump facing foreclosure from the bank of China. Even the bank of Pakistan won't lend to him. Keep the ice as you commiserate with your bourbon on how you were played, bamboozled and used.

January 21, 2021 will be a day that will live in infamy. The day the SDNY serves the paperwork, the subpoenas and notices of actions. That lead trump to his new home in Rikers Island. trump will spend more time under oath than he did watching FOX. More time than even you spend watching FOX. Between November 3 and January 20th. The little rats will start to scurry around, wanting out. In the end even Barr will turn on trump.

A five years in the slammer law. More serious than driving w/o License and DUI put together. Go back to FOX for more talking points on treason, RICO violations

Too much FOX will have you believe that FOX employs journalists. That FOX activism protects, promotes and safeguards the republic.. Is the Praetor for republicans. The brains of trump so to speak.

You're getting closer. Its about keeping those dirty foreigners, communist Canadians from moderating the purity of capitalism that MAGITFP (made America Great In The First Place).. Rushmc, Coreece, etc. see any programs that dilute complete competition as a continuation of the Domino Theory. Thats what drives Ron IMO, as well. Thats why socialist single payer medical care is a no-no. Its a foothold for communism, the first domino, then gun control. Clearly C-19 can be defeated w/o communism.

You're wrong about Coreece winning arguments in his own mind. Its about stopping the communists from the left and Canada. From influencing the MAGA of America. trump is completely wrong about banning immigration under the guise of C-19 control. That has no other purpose than to pander to his base. IMO free travel to any foreigner is fine if they had a test(negative C-19) four days prior to travel and another one day prior to travel. All other immigration, visa and other travel restrictions met of course.The same testing on every air traveler would allow the salvation of the airline industry on domestic routes. In the absence to above testing of course all out bans are necessary. trump wanted to open up US-Canada border restrictions a month ago. Trudeau shot that down. Because currently only Quebec has C-19 as bad as border US states. Canada overall has progressed further than the US. But Quebec, Ontario and to a lessor extent Alberta still have issues. Cost of COVID-19 Treatment: $34,927.43 Medicare price for a COVID-19 PCR test is $51. It seems as if testing stations need to be set up at every GM, FORD, meat packing plant, etc. Then workers tested every week, or a frequency determined by medical expert opinion. A auto worker generally has a cost per hour to a major manufacturer to warrant daily testing if necessary. Same applies to a airline traveler, stew, or pilot. These aren't difficult issues to address. Fauci probably has the answers at the blink of an eye. Thats why trump banned him from testifying in House hearings. Clearly the truth won't MAGA.

Well nobody has driven my political thinking further to the left than trump. Nobody has illustrated to me the dangers of unrestrained politicians than trump. Or illustrated the failings of education institutions than trump.I've learn that people can be foolish, narcissistic, self involved and ignorant. But to find masses ready and willing to worship at the feet of those same people. Well thats an eye opener.

I'll direct you to the most popular learning program for Americans about the law. Cops. If an investigation into proper licensing results in a find of a bag of crack. You don't get let off the hook because the search was initiated for a different reason. Even you know that.

You're funny.

It originated in China so they had to deal with C-19 without any knowledge about it. They are a third rate country v the US. The US had a months warning. The US banned travelers before it got started stateside. But muffed EU transmissions trump doing Boris a favor.. Regardless of China lies. Today they are substantially open. Yet no reports suggest they have a higher mortality than the US.

I'd speculate infections of nursing homes and older population demographics V. other countries.

Upon reflection and I think this whole social isolation is brain benumbing. There is no need for factoring population density. If it was such an important factor. China would never have gotten C-19 under control. The fact that it originated in Wuhan and its more open now, with fewer restrictions than most US states. When China has city state areas of populations of six exceeding 10 million. This graph shows that even with a one month delay and warning of C-19. China and every other country with reasonable testing has "flattened the curve" except the US. That graph shows US deaths still doubling every four weeks. It also shows six other developed countries with population densities equal or higher than the US. All of which flattened the curve faster than the US(to date). The only logical conclusion is leadership and the active measures taken to flatten the curve. The US has had the least drag on the upward climb of that curve because of trump. Don't forget the US has the most expensive health care system in the world. United States: $13,722 per person; 16.9% of GDP Which is 2 times the OECD average. Obviously trump himself stated what the guidelines should be for re-opening the US marketplace and manufacturing. Yet he and his party have refused to follow them. Those of course the guidelines which trump forced the CDC to amend and soften. In conclusion republicans and trump had the opportunity to bring US health care into alignment with more cost effective models. Yet they failed. Then trump failed to follow his own CDC recommendations which has resulted in tens of thousands of additional fatalities. Naturally his failure to pay proper heed to briefings in January, is a contributing factor.

That is a baldfaced falsehood. Even you don't believe that. Stop posting FOX bulls*#t

Its not much more than life expectancy. The US has the most expensive system for outcomes. But generally speaking life expectancy factors more variables than any other. If in fact some portion of the population is uninsured whatsoever. Life expectancy would be dragged down more so than states with universal, free care. As such the US would be operating under a greater handicap with poor uninsured people than anyone in the EU. Which has universal care.

I think real estate sales must be OK. Because perception here seems pretty rosy for some. Or maybe he has a inside to republican referrals to buy mega-mansions. Yeah juicy $50K double ending commissions will do that. Or to take advantage of Florida's laws. Republicans might see bankruptcy on the horizon and "be like trump".

About 4% worse. 'The average life expectancy in Western Europe was 79 years for males and 84 years for females in 2019.Sep 20, 2019" United States Overall 78.9 Female 81.4 Male 76.3

The Schengen area is comparable in health care and demographics. It is substantially denser. The US had the advantage of a one month delay between Chinese disclosures and US infections.

Completely correct. It has a population density of 97 per sq KM and the US has 94 per square mile. So 2.6 times as dense Now Coreece knows this of course.

I remember the US in 68. Now "On March 24, 2020, the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, to not much fanfare, predicted that unemployment in the United States was about to skyrocket to a point higher than that reached at the peak of the Great Depression: 32 percent." Its now about 25% including those who have given up looking. America Is On Track For A $4 Trillion Deficit In 2020. Should It Matter? That would be 20% of GDP. State budget shortfalls this time around could total more than $500 billion in a single year, and cities and states across the country are sounding the alarm. The total with individual states, the US federal deficit and US cities. Will likely total another $1 trillion. So 23-26% of GDP deficit and unemployment at the lowest since 1933. Do you want to rephrase your 1968 opinion. Oh and by the end of this month, year to date, more Americans will die of C-19 than every American killed in EVERY war since WWll. So yeah this thread is appropriately titled. But in November the sun will shine on the eastern seaboard of the US. It will get better as hope and optimism will sweep across America. People will stand in the streets waving little American flags.

Agree Perception is based upon what you know to be true and what you hope to be true. Based upon observation, learning, internalized judgements and interpretations of those factors. Ego is a internalized self identity, a sense of self esteem, of self importance. I do give you credit. No matter how or how much you're insulted. I have never read a ego or reactionary insult thrown back. You're either ego-less or have very good self control. IMO Ron perceives the trade-offs he makes in supporting trump as a net win. Although he, like others here, doesn't like to delve into specifics. As to how dealing with the devil is acceptable to moral individuals.