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Ok, so you're counting the Mafia as a business here. I don't think most people having this discussion would consider them to be valid businessmen. Using the legal framework provided by our judicial system, which yes of course, is provided by our government. What legal principles limit the actions of bureaucrats? We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. We are all engines of karma

That's why people start businesses. You're free, at least at this point in time in America, to go start your own business. I'm not saying there isn't a role for government. The question is - what limits exist there? Yes, that's commonly referred to as acting in one's own self interest. Which is what markets are all about. Everyone acting in their own self interest, but engaging in business transactions that benefit both parties in some way. If there isn't benefit to both parties, the business transaction doesn't happen. It's self regulating that way. We are all engines of karma

Mortgage payments fall in the realm of business transactions. You entered into that agreement, so you need to meet it. Taxes on the other hand apparently have no limit, at least in Obama-land. It can, and has, reached a point where it's no longer voluntary. That's the distinction that's being made. Again, what limits on taxation exist? Right now, there appear to be none. Once you've voluntarily entered into a business transaction, then you are expected to uphold it. Sure. We are all engines of karma

In general, business transactions should be win/win for everyone. Otherwise, one party walks away. So, to answer your question, its productive for both parties involved. We are all engines of karma

My question still stands here - what fallacy do you see in the author's article? We are all engines of karma

What are you seeing as a logical fallacy? We are all engines of karma

Are you equating bureaucrats with logic? We are all engines of karma

Thought this was a very good article. Here's the link, and I've copied the article, also. Businessmen Versus Bureaucrats Here's the complete article: ======================================= TRADECRAFT JULY 23, 2012, 11:57 A.M. ET Businessmen Versus Bureaucrats Hoenig: The government increasingly relies on force, rather than reasoning with people the way businessmen do. By JONATHAN HOENIG There are generally just two ways people deal with each other: with reason or with force. Reason is the businessperson's approach. Regardless if he is a trader, a CEO or lemonade-stand operator, the capitalist understands that if he wants something from you, he's got to offer you a value in return. He can't force you to buy his real estate, "green" energy, or failing auto company, he can only try and convince you though discussion and trade that it's in your own self interest. The choice is always yours. That basic fundamental negates the cliched and commonplace assertion, popularized even by our own elected officials, that trade is destructive and that profit-seeking businessmen are evil. In reality, just the opposite is true: Regardless if it's for a share of stock, an education or a sandwich, voluntary trade is productive as both parties' needs are satisfied. After all, that's why they're trading. Force is not the tool of businessmen, but of bureaucrats. Whereas a businessman must appeal to your mind, government bureaucrats effectively put a gun to your head. They force you to you pay for banks, insurance companies, and deadbeat homeowners. They also force businesses to sell certain types of products, offer certain types of wages and operate in a certain fashion. If a hooded thug stole your savings or tied your arms behind your back, we'd call it a crime. It's still a crime even though it's a suit-wearing bureaucrat doing the stealing. In a free market, the economic power achieved by Wal-Mart (WMT: 72.14, 0.29, 0.40%), McDonald's (MCD: 88.06, -0.88, -0.99%) or any other successful company has been earned, not expropriated. And while a businessman can't insist you to act against your own judgment, our government can and increasingly does, Obamacare is just the latest example of government force replacing individuals' own voluntary judgment regarding what's in their own self interest. Stripped of the flowery language about how "we are our brother's keeper" and "the common good", government intervention into the free market is done by those who believe your judgment or voluntary choice is moot. For over four years, government has been engaged in an arbitrary campaign purportedly to spur economic growth. Every single initiative, from stifling regulation to "Cash for Clunkers" to inflationary manipulation of interest rates has involved the use of government force, the result of which has been more debt, less liberty and continued economic lethargy. Economic freedom, as we wrote last year, remains the one stimulus that has yet to be actually tried. The reason the average income in communist North Korea is $1,800/year compared to nearly $50,000 in the United States isn't because the water in New York Harbor is any different than that in Pyongyang. Rather, it's the ideas and dominant philosophy that determine the result. North Korea, like Cuba, Venezuela, Zimbabwe and a long list of other collectivist countries, employ force against their own citizens as a matter of practice. The results speak for themselves. The United States' historical success came not from natural resources or global plunder, but ideological commitment to reason. From the smallest start-up to the S&P 500's biggest names, wealth is a product of man's capacity to think: to deal with others in voluntary, mutually beneficial and productive trade. If Washington and the American people are looking for a "secret sauce" to remedy our economic malaise, that's it. Jonathan Hoeing is managing member at Capitalistpig Hedge Fund LLC We are all engines of karma

Liberal hogwash... Just because you can't see a way, doesn't mean that others can. We are all engines of karma

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I wanted to buy a baseball cap from their site. But they don't sell them... We are all engines of karma

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I had one of those once. Never used it, so didn't bother to buy another one after it expired... We are all engines of karma

So, you're wearing the camera? It's not possible to review your skydive. RW groups/teams have a separate, dedicated video person who does not participate in the skydive's formation. This video person flies close to the group such that the people fill the TV screen. Also, the video person needs to keep a constant heading, and not orbit around the group. That way, the group can tell who is moving and how much. Finding a good 4-way video person can be challenging. On the exit, I would suggest taking a wrist grip instead of the chest strap. This allows the formation to be a little more flexible during the exit. From what I'm seeing in the video, it isn't possible to tell why stability was lost. Is there a tunnel near you? I would suggest getting tunnel time to improve your proximity flying. Without seeing your body position, it's not possible to critique what you're doing when you try to link up. Body position is absolutely critical in formation skydiving. You need to comfortably keep a "box position", and fall straight down. As part of this body position, everyone should be able to keep their hands under their chin, and move them out to take grips. If people are flying with their hands above their head, they'll end up bringing them down to take grips (cupping air in the process), which will introduce burbles/bobbles into the formation. Also, everyone must be falling at the same rate while keeping their box positions. The person in the black jump suit, which is a jump suit designed for modern formation skydiving (relatively tight fitting), is having to dearch to stay up. The body position he's in will make it difficult to do good formation skydiving. The blue jump suit is baggy, and not designed for modern formation skydiving. Those differences alone will make smooth formation flying difficult. Also, the person in the blue jump suit is flying with his hands pretty much above his head. He needs to bring his hands down below the plane of his chin, and keep them there. Find a coach near you, and I'm sure they'll be able to give you positive feedback. Good luck, and keep skydiving! We are all engines of karma

Yes. Most people don't realize how many seats may come open in the next term. We are all engines of karma

Rod, What were you trying to accomplish in that skydive? We are all engines of karma

Thanks for everyone's help! I've got the draw and results. We are all engines of karma

Exactly...

Anybody know where I can find this? We are all engines of karma

You expect this in SC??? We are all engines of karma

That had doubled back on him, and was beating the shit out of him while telling him he was going to die. Let's not leave that very important part out. We are all engines of karma

Good article by Charles Krauthammer: Obama's Vision Places Government, Not People, First Good article by Thomas Sowell: Trashing Achievements We are all engines of karma

Ether is a useful tool in snake handling... We are all engines of karma

Worth watching. Incredibly sobering, and frightening. United States Budget Dilemma We are all engines of karma

Worth watching. Incredibly sobering, and frightening. United States Budget Dilemma We are all engines of karma