Andy_Copland

Its the symbol of peace dont ya know. "my stick is bigger than yours!" 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Awwww now im the enemy "if you're not with us you're against us!" 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Well i am honoured. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

I can't take credit for it, but its beautiful. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Yes i have. Does it make it less corny who sings it? 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

His opinion was fine, i enjoyed listening to it then suddenly the music came on and i turned it off. If you say that music was not corny you are a liar 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

You know what i find hilarious (or sad rather?) During Vietnam personnel where spat on and crapped on which can only be called disgusting. Now we have the opposite, cringe worthy crap like this. Is there no middle ground of "thanks, great job"? 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

That was, without a doubt, the cheesiest thing i have ever seen. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Tdog did make a good point in the forums though and we all know that. Gravity is gravity and pilot chutes are pilot chutes. There is always something to learn even when the sports cross over. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Thats the FAA's job between him and them. Im not about to put facts to people when there is an investigation going on. All i wanted out of this thread is for people to stop speculating. Whenever there is a fatality in skydiving everyone throws in the words "Dont assume" when people speculate about what they done wrong. Yet when its a pilot they seem to get a trump card and people speculate til they are blue in the face automatically assuming they are deaf, dumb and blind with no knowledge what so ever. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Its a profile, i have not changed my "years" in a while. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Andy this is my whole point, assumptions being made about the pilot. Who here can tell me EXACTLY what was told to the pilot by us and what knowledge he had? None of you. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

delibertly? Sorry I don't know that word. Back on topic, i think you're a complete whuffo and should just PA removed by slotperfect. "poor pilot" blah blah blah, hes an adult and is as much to blame as the REST of us. Poor mother and father more like. PA removed by slotperfect. You have deliberately (notice the spelling so you don't fuck up again) busted clouds that have been "written in blood" and its not blame shifting. Don't even tell me out of 700 jumps you've never broken an FAR deliberately. Its saying look at it from a BASE jumpers point of view. Do you think I, or anyone else could have stopped him jumping his set up? 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Fucking hell....... 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

So you really have never broken an FAR? Who am i shifting blame on? 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Next time someone goes in wearing a skydiving rig and you're on the load, i want you to feel all the guilt and take blame for letting them do something so dangerous like jumping out a plane. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Actually got an email from one DZO expressing their sorrow for all involved inviting me out for a jump. Then 2 friends wanted to do a tandem so went to another local DZ i had never been to before and while they waited i packed my BASE rig on the grass outside and got some nice warm comments of "you can pack that in the hanger if you like." Seems like dz.com is the only boiling pot. Edit: So if that reserve didnt open would he get the same shit about taking dumps on skydivers dinner tables? 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Brilliant stuff 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

You Texans are a whole other can of worms 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Thats the thing Andy, i can man up to it. What am I not manning up to? I could have hid, it was my choice to say "hey i was there" as the facts are going to be known to the FAA anyway, no getting around it. But being a jumper i could have just evaporated into the shadows. The fact is everyone on here is acting holier than holy with their "you broke the rules" finger pointing. Yes we did but who on here can say they have not? What people fail to realise is this kind of thing is not rare and done quite successfully all the time and never heard of, its just when thigs go bad (and they went as bad as bad can go) then it highlights it. Ever jumped while still hungover/drunk? Taken beer under canopy? Jumped through clouds? stuck camera's on heads too soon? Strato put the boot into me saying we took a shit on the skydvers dinner table then proceeds to give advice on another thread saying "Cutaway and re dock." Yea its a joke but it does highlight the hypocrisy. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

I think its the little things that make it slightly more nerve pulling. 1.) You're miles high with string and nylon as safety but also... 2.) The air just feels different, it can be 100 on the ground but chilly all the way up there with blistering sunshine bearing down. When i do it i get a sense of "I'm really not supposed to be all the way up here as a human with no wings. fuck the birds are flying 12000ft below me even" 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Celtic bastard, where did you steal these pictures? You're too old to get up the road for a pint let alone a bloody hill. Nice one 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

It keeps getting brought up though and its confusing the shit out of me 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

You know whats hilarious, half the folks going down the nationality track are probably the ones who say "I'm Irish" or "I'm German" and even "I'm Italian." You're all foreigners in the US unless you're native, get over it. Stick to the facts Mr Dropkick WWE hero. 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

Last shot is really nice 1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.