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It's their country, outside the embassy walls. Not sure what sort of rights they have. I just know that we lack the proper standing to make such a determination of people in their own nation. Would the F16s first broadcast a warning before unloading munitions on foreign soil? (Do they even have speakers?) How about a flyby at 700 KTS? Depending on the temp and altitude , that could break some dishes. F16's have been around a long time so they just might have Radio Shack outdoor speakers. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

...which is why I said don't let them off the hook.Yep. If you let them off the hook they will do it over and over again. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

I broke my left heel in five places on my last base jump and got a slight fracture of the.... where the...@%# connects to your inner knee. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Terrorists who enter the country legally or illegally have done so with tolerance and acceptance. So many have come on student visas only to disappear off the radar of a failed system. Nobody questioned why the 9-11 terrorists were learning how to take off (never caring about landing) the 757 simulators. The FBI dropped the ball on the Boston bombers. Think of all the ones who simply walked across the border.. >n what way? Gay marriage? Civil rights? Tolerance of people who own guns? Acceptance of religion in the US? Which of those should we "go back" on? Just ask yourself why the President of the United States has authorized the monitoring of emails, phone calls, etc. of every person, church or organization in the United States except MOSQUES. In other words, anyone in a mosque planning an attack against the United States has no fear of FBI informants, monitoring, or violation of their "civil rights". Sounds like gross "acceptance and tolerance" to me. No cigar, Bill. It's not the guns, gays, or civil rights. It's about your president and his "tolerance and acceptance" of what goes on behind the walls of a mosque. He has violated my civil rights as well as yours, and he has betrayed the United States. You need to go fishing or listen to Allen Jackson. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Don't twist it. It was tolerance and acceptance that has brought us grief since 9/11, and it continues to this day. It has stolen any since of privacy, made air travel a pain, ....etc. As for slavery, Japanese prison camps, women voting, and locking up gay guys.....I wuz only following orders. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

I wish there was a way of figuring out why so many people around the world dislike the US. Some of our British cousins have never forgiven our dads for drinking their pubs dry during WWII. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Let's hope Americans' right to assembly never deteriorates that far. I think you'll have a hard time convincing the Libyan, or any other government, that we have the right to target civilians so trivially. "At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM." Note: He also mentioned that things started happening around 10:00 PM. Lots of time for the White House to react and lots of time for "innocent bystanders" to leave. Do you must think that the attackers were exercising their "right to peaceful assembly? Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Sobering reminder.. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

That's nothing. In Iraq they put bombs so close to friendlies that they blew up allied convoys. Oops. It happens. Hope you weren't in the convoy. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

I would guess that most drones, like the one giving live video feed during the attack, carry a laser target designator that can give "crude" bombs pinpoint accuracy. The two ex-seal contract hands on the ground were perfectly capable of calling in an air strike. Any civilian on the street at the time of the attack would be a willing participant and a target. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

You underestimate the US AIr Force. In Vietnam, they could put conventional bombs so close to friendlies that our C rations got hot. Now they have the laser- guided stuff. "Never mind that strafing the crowd outside would be an act of war on the nation involved?" For that situation, you are correct: never mind. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Marry my nephew? That little sob is hillary ugly. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

This post was more about our "Commander-in-Chief" being more than just a little two faced. Nothing "irrelevant" here. It's the "bullshit" that comes out of his mouth for any holiday or occasion. Admit it: you poor liberals can't stand your fuhrer being caught lying. He's sooo damn quick on his feet as long he has a teleprompter and a calendar, but when he lies, it's a done deal. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Tread carefully, friend. You don't know me, my story, where I've been, what I've done any more than I know you/yours. It takes all kinds, opinions, and ideas to make the US work. Even more importantly, it takes tolerance and acceptance of those whom you don't agree. Clearly we don't agree.. But you don't see me questioning your alliegance, do you? "Tread carefully"? I'll tread where I please, Bud. Remember, you're not back home. You're living in the USA, and "friend"? No chance today. All this "tolerance and acceptance" has got us where we are today. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Wonder what he will say about Baby Jesus and Christianity on Christmas Day (bet it's gonna be good). http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-there-will-never-be-substitute-fathers-obamas-doj-children-dont-need-fathers And I want to do what I can as president to encourage marriage and strong families," said Obama. "We should reform our child support laws to get more men working and engaged with their children. And my Administration will continue to work with the faith and other community organizations, as well as businesses, on a campaign to encourage strong parenting and fatherhood." .......... Soon, the Supreme Court will issue it decision in the case challenging California's Proposition 8, which amended the state's constitution to say that marriage is between one man and one woman. The Obama Justice Department filed a brief in that case expressly telling the Supreme Court that children need neither a mother nor a father because two parents of the same sex are just as good as a mother and father - See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-there-will-never-be-substitute-fathers-obamas-doj-children-dont-need-fathers#sthash.yA2Dpy2I.dpuf Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

So how come you're living in the USA? Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

DITTO. It's one of the best about the Vietnam helicopter experience. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

True. Like when the guy with the machine gun is spraying the circus - damn. That elephant is just sitting there. But on another subject - will there be background checks on the recipients of these weapons that we're sending? And a three day waiting period. I also demand that they receive a full blown psyche test and evaluation before they are allowed to handle their weapons.http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/03/07/irans-new-arash-20mm-shoulder-fired-anti-material-rifle-with-barrett-bors-clone/ It's too late for Fathers Day. Better get 'em before Christmas before some liberal bans them. I'm sure our friendly-nation State Department would make an exception for these in the interest of cultural diversity with our iranian friends. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

The General Officers Corps must be rotten to the core (yes, it rhymes). This despicable joke of military justice being carried out at Fort Hood, is a prime example of how far they have let things go. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Here's an interesting take from an Air Force (retired) pilot. QUOTE: Betrayal in Benghazi Phil "Hands" Handley Colonel, USAF (Ret.) The combat code of the US Military is that we don't abandon our dead or wounded on the battlefield. In US Air Force lingo, fighter pilots don't run off and leave their wingmen. If one of our own is shot down, still alive and not yet in enemy captivity, we will either come to get him or die trying. Among America's fighting forces, the calm, sure knowledge that such an irrevocable bond exists is priceless. Along with individual faith and personal grit, it is a sacred trust that has often sustained hope in the face of terribly long odds. The disgraceful abandonment of our Ambassador and those brave ex-SEALs who fought to their deaths to save others in that compound is nothing short of dereliction-of-duty. Additionally, the patently absurd cover-up scenario that was fabricated in the aftermath was an outright lie in an attempt to shield the President and the Secretary of State from responsibility. It has been over eight months since the attack on our compound in Benghazi . The White House strategy, with the aid of a "lap dog" press has been to run out the clock before the truth is forthcoming. The recent testimonies of the three "whistle blowers" have reopened the subject and hopefully will lead to exposure and disgrace of those responsible for this embarrassing debacle. It would appear that the most recent firewall which the Administration is counting on is the contention "that there were simply no military assets that could be brought to bear in time to make a difference" mainly due to the unavailability of tanker support for fighter aircraft. This is simply BS, regardless how many supposed "experts" the Administration trot out to make such an assertion. The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was half-way around the world, you don't just sit on your penguin ass and do nothing. The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as near as Aviano Air Base, Italy where two squadrons of F-16Cs are based. Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local): When Hicks in Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him "Greg, we are under attack!" (his last words), he immediately notifies all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing "Emergency Response Plan." At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is told to "stand down". By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound and streaming live feed to various "Command and Control Agencies" and everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going on. At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM. So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense. If one assumes that tanker support really "was not available" what about this: When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets. By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20 MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours. While in-route, the flight lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio frequencies to use. The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377 nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM which would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team. Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, only a few well placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick. Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to recover at Sigonelli after jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at Tripoli International Airport , only one-half hour away. As for those hand-wringing naysayers who would worry about IFR clearances, border crossing authority, collateral damage, landing rights, political correctness and dozens of other reasons not to act" screw them. It is high time that our "leadership" get their priorities straight and put America's interests first. The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with "72 virgins" and a clear message would have been sent to the next worthless POS terrorist contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to "tug" on Superman's cape. Of course all this would depend upon a Commander In Chief that was more concerned with saving the lives of those he put in harm's way than getting his crew rested for a campaign fund raising event in Las Vegas the next day. As well as a Secretary of State that actually understood "What difference did it make?", or a Secretary of Defense whose immediate response was not to the effect that "One of the military tenants is that you don't commit assets until you fully understand the tactical situation." Was he not watching a live feed from the unarmed drone, and he didn't understand the tactical situation? YGBSM! Ultimately it comes down to the question of who gave that order to stand down? Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from office, and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty. The combat forces of the Untied States of America deserve leadership that really does "have their back" when the chips are down. END Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Unfortunately, there are those within the US State Department and Congress that think they can send a bag of these high tech weapons to our "friends" and buy them back. Can't anyone remember the CIA trying to buy back and account for all those Stinger Missiles after the Russians packed up and left Afghanistan? These dopes really think they can snap their fingers and say, "wars over; now give us back our stuff". As for those nasty Russians, it would be cheaper and more healthful to be friends with them. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

I'm back. We Infidels do love our BBQ pork. Please forgive my naivety, but I didn't realize I was sparing with someone with such a deep hatred for the " Children of Abraham". Is this something you picked up in kindergarten? Please explain your hatred. Where did you acquire this disillusion? Did this come out of a mosque, or were you brain washed in some refugee camp or from daddy and mommy? The darkness of "evil islamists" isn't about some large army overthrowing governments. It's about simple everyday infiltration from the lowest to the highest echelons of government. It is also about tying up our courts, law enforcement, and intelligence agencies. It is an army from within the host country. So far we have kept you at bay with a few failures like 9-11, the Boston Bombings, and multiple murders across the US, but over all, I think you are in check. Regarding NSA, do all your planning in the local mosque. Until barack leaves, mosques are off limits to NSA and the FBI. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Just look at our options in the region. Like it or not, Israel is the closest thing we do have for a friend in the region whether you think they are good or bad. As to the events leading up to the 6 Day War, there is no doubt they were responsible for the attack on the USS Liberty resulting in the deaths of 34 Americans and the wounding of 171 others. They even lied that our ship was not flying the American flag and that they thought it was an Egyptian ship; all lies. The fact remains they are the closest thing we have for a friend and ally in this part of the world. I believe they have the only democracy in this part of the world, and after Israel, we are the next prize for islam. Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

*** Manning should be hung (after he is shot), but how stupid can people actually be...? I agree with airdvr: "Sometimes as a government we are just goat-fuck stupid." Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Sometimes as a government we are just goat-fuck stupid. This kind of wraps it up: "Before mosques were excluded from the otherwise wide domestic spy net the administration has cast, the FBI launched dozens of successful sting operations against homegrown jihadists — inside mosques — and disrupted dozens of plots against the homeland." I wonder if the First Baptist Church in Zepherhills is excluded? Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.