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Waterboarding is torture. I've yet to see any evidence that that particular form of torture is effective (but I've seen lots of evidence suggesting that it is ineffective). Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

How do we know that? Despite requests, those in SC making that claim have thus far failed to offer any supporting evidence. On the other hand, there is no shortage of evidence that torture is ineffective w/r/t obtaining reliable, accurate information. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

What I find hilarious though is that some people have zero appreciation for the improvement unions brought the not just the factory worker, but ALL people that don't own the business they work for. This includes white collar as well as minimum wage workers. I've been on both sides of a contract negotiation table. Without the unions today many non-union minimum wage workers would be at risk of the same behaviors. One need only look at such companies as WalMart to see what happens in a purely non-union environment. Further, not all unions are created equally bad. To simply lump them ALL into the same category that "promulgate mediocrity" shows a certain amount of prejudice that would not be tolerated elsewhere. Very well said. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I see a few differences. Rand McNally has to pick and choose the features they want on their map. They may choose different features than, for example, Kroll Map Company or Google. They can opt for different scales, different symbols in the legend, etc. OTOH, mapping a particular genome is a bit more concrete. As I understand it, there aren't multiple ways to map a particular genome; it's more like graphing a complex (in the colloquial sense of the word complex, not the mathematical sense) equation than mapping a geographical area. (Note: It might be that I have mapping and sequencing confused, in which case I would withdraw my disagreement.) Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I'm not misconstruing anything, deliberately or otherwise. I'm not psychic. I can't read your mind. You have to ask the questions to which you seek answers. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Agreed. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I did, too. It asks nothing about why. What list are you referring to? H.R. 2159 makes no mention of any list. Perhaps you should read (or re-read) the proposed bill. SQ3R can be a helpful tool. I'm not deliberately misconstruing anything. I'm answering the questions as you ask them. If you want different questions answered, then you should ask those questions, instead. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I disagree. I understand the differences between patents and copyrights, but mapping the genome is not the same as creating an original work, so it shouldn't be copyrightable. Writing a book containing the map of the genome and some stories about how it was mapped, OTOH, would be copyrightable. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

If Copernicus were still alive, he'd be kicking himself for not patenting the concept of Earth revolving around the sun. Newton could have patented motion. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

It is valid if the discussion is about policy. It is not valid if the discussion is about science. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

You posted: "I also see nothing that states that the person is to be notified in the event of a denial due to this bill - can you point out the verbiage for me that explicitly states so?" You didn't ask about why. To be fair, that may be what you intended to ask about, but I'm not very good at reading minds. Fair enough. It says so approximately two-thirds down this page. Now you know where H.R. 2159 says so. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I fixed that for you to accurately reflect what I posted. Short answer: "The court shall sustain the Attorney General's determination on a showing by the United States by a preponderance of evidence that the Attorney General's determination satisfied the requirements of section 922A or 922B." Neither section 922A nor 922B provides the AG the ability to arbitrarily deny the transfer of firearms. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Once again, the Court can examine the full documents upon which the summaries and redacted documents are based, on behalf of the transferee does not, to ensure that they present a fair and accurate assessment. (It is true that H.R. 2159 does not allow the transferee to view them directly, but if federal judges cannot be trusted to be impartial, then we have much bigger problems than anything H.R. 2159 might create.) If the summaries do not present an accurate picture, the judge can discredit them to whatever extent she feels prudent. OTOH, if the full documents paint a worse picture than the summaries, only the summaries can be considered by the judge w/r/t the AG supporting his case. Arbitrary? No. Less than ideal? Yes. Unfortunately, realism and idealism are often not completely consistent with one another. During time of war, if Congress passed legislation consistent with your hypothetical proposal, the President could do just that, Constitutionally. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

??? In English, please? Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Torture is a proper superset of waterboarding. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Really jcd? Really…? This shows the dark side of capitalism? No sir… Lincoln was speaking about the end of capitalism. No sir… Lincoln was speaking about the end of capitalism. There is no capitalism when private industry is run and/or subsidized by government. Incorrect. The mid nineteenth century was when capitalism started making major ground in the US. Nothing about Lincoln's quote offers any indication that he is talking about the end of capitalism. He describes capitalism accurately. He offered absolutely no reference to government subsidization. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

You have to ask why, but if you ask, they must give you the reasons in writing within five days. From the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Section 103(f): WRITTENREASONSPROVIDEDONREQUEST.—If the national instant criminal background check system determines that an individual is ineligible to receive a firearm and the individual requests the system to provide the reasons for the determination, the system shall provide such reasons to the individual except for any information the disclosure of which the Attorney General has determined would likely compromise national security, in writing, within 5 business days after the date of the request. (Amendment resulting from H.R. 2159 in red.) As previously discussed in this thread, withholding such information from the transferee on the grounds of national security could make it more difficult for the government to support their case on appeal, while not penalizing the transferee making the appeal. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Yes, they are. It is currently illegal to give aid or comfort to terrorists. For that matter, if those terrorists are enemies of the US, knowingly giving aid and comfort to those, then helping them obtain firearms could be punishable as treason. I can think of a few reasons the bill might be needed. The one you offer is way down the list. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

I addressed this in my (immediately) previous post. Actually, it's H.R. 2159 that we're talking about. Right. That's why I gave it as an example of such. The biggest relevant similarity is that neither right is unlimited. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Finally, a well thought out post. I don't completely agree with your conclusions, but at least your post isn't merely a knee-jerk reaction making claims irrelevant to the topic like some others have. Thanks for that. Oh, and thanks for the new sig line. It's priceless! I.e. I'm not paying you a damn thing for it. This still isn't a free speech issue. Thus, I am confident that you disagree with the Court's decision in Washington v. Alaimo, 934 F. Supp. 1395 (S.D. Ga. 1996). Fortunately, the language of H.R. 2159 prevents the deprivation "of any realistic ability to respond to the accusations." Those are all things that are possible under H.R. 2159. I'm not sure what you mean by "rough thing." From the Opinion of the Court in DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ET AL. v. HELLER: Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. From Blackstone through the 19th-century cases, commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose. … For example, the majority of the 19th-century courts to consider the question held that prohibitions on carrying concealed weapons were lawful under the Second Amendment or state analogues. … Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms [See footnote]. … [Footnote:] We identify these presumptively lawful regulatory measures only as examples; our list does not purport to be exhaustive. So, H.R. 2159 might be a "rough thing" (or it might not, depending on your definition of the rather ambiguous phrase rough thing), but it does not appear to be unConstitutional, at least not for any reason thus far offered in this thread. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

So did you pass your English exams? Pssst … you missed one. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Actually, I love your red herrings. They make it obvious to most reasonable people that your argument lacks merit. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

As I understand, they're already legally forbidden to obtaining firearms. What this bill does is guarantees an avenue of appeal. It boggles my mind how many people are arguing against legislation that will help to guarantee due process. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

According to Black's Law Dictionary (seventh edition): prior restraint. A governmental restriction on speech or publication before its actual expression. • Prior restraints violate the First Amendment unless the speech is obscene, is defamatory, or creates a clear and present danger to society. Please explain how prior restraint is relevant to the discussion. Bullshit. I called you on your red herring. I haven't defended any attacks on civil liberties. Perhaps you should actually read my posts in this thread before you make any further incorrect statements. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

Why would there need to be? They're not arrested, their denied a transfer of a firearm (which can be immediately appealed). Nope. Nor do I support genocide of lawyers just because 99% of attorneys give the rest a bad name. Neither is analogous to the proposed bill. They are, like your rap example, red herrings. Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!