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Actually Marla could make a fortune in sales. Maybe she already does. She runs a wholesale coffee distribution company. "Honey, I can explain everything. The price was really good and we'll go through 2000 lbs of Arabica beans in no time." 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Just ride the beam to paradise Farflung. Think of it as a below minimums IFR approach. Imagine Marla as a GCA controller, eyes glued to the PAR scope, talking you in. "Air Force 52 Delta, Tulsa approach. Understand you have declared an emergency, the dreaded seven engine approach. You are on course, 100 feet below the glide path." Can you fill in the rest? A little higher, to the right a bit... Ohhh Farflung. Have you seen this movie? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skyjacked_(film) 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUxWmDgSXP4 Cover of the Toots and Maytals' Pressure drop, by the Specials. The FBI silence on Marla is a bit puzzling, it's like from "credible witness" to "Marla who?" To be fair to Marla she didnt say she was on the polygraph for 5 hours. She explained that she was connected to the machine for a portion of an interview that lasted five hours. Five hours is an incredibly long interview. I'd have run out of questions well before the five hour mark. Five hours focused on 40 year old memories of a then eight year old kid? One thing for sure, Marla knows her 1971 vintage CB walkie talkies. That clouds my rational thinking and skepticism. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

EXACTLY as Deathray predicted. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

So Farflung, remember Duanes nightmare? Maybe he wasn't screaming about an airplane at all. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

You are a genius. One of your very best ever. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PURSUIT-DB-COOPER-MOVIE-PHOTO-05-Treat-Williams-/350295820461?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item518f4208ad 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Wasn't Janet supposed to show up at the symposium? Did anybody connect with her? The FBI MIBS must have prevented her from attending. They can be pretty nasty at times. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Oh come on. Give her something. If Marla's story is not believable at least let her be pretty. There were a bunch of guys in their 20s at the Ariel Tavern who'd dispute your and Georger's opinion about hot or not. Hey, you have to normalize for age. Marla is 48. Even at very close range she sure doesn't look 48. Not even close. If you could prove she is 40 you could bust her LD story. Marla wasn't the only very attractive woman at the symposium. When you set reasonable standards for beauty you find yourself surrounded by it. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070038/Niece-potential-DB-Cooper-suspect-claims-FBI-close-skyjacking-case-good.html And Jo. Wouldn't "media princess" be better than using the "w" word? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

You gotta give Marla credit for letting Bruce talk with her police friend. That's pretty open. She isn't trying to control access to info or people. At the symposium she was very open and didn't dodge any questions. Even if she "passed" a polygraph it in no way proves LDC=DBC. It just shows she probably isn't consciously fabricating her story. Kudos to Bruce. He gets out there and chases down leads. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

It was actually a Learstar, a slicked down go FAST Lodestar mod engineered by farmed aero engineer Gordon Israel and built for Lear by Pacific Airmotive. It could exceed 300 mph in level flight. VERY touchy near stall speed. Vicious snap when stalled. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Blevins wrote So Robert, did you get any quality time with Courtney Love? Groupies? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

If he pulled right off the stairs he'd be OK. No spin and hanging under an open chute. Look at the slo mo video Snow made of the Air America 727 jumps. No spin, no tumble. A squidding canopy decelerates the jumper smoothly. If he delayed the pull, big trouble. As soon as he hit the air beyond the area shielded by the plane KABOOM. In the WFFC jet jumps many people tumbled on exit. Fanny packs and velcroed wrist altimeters were ripped off a few people. My tight goggles were ripped off my face. Only my helmet over the strap held them on. No big deal. Sunny day. Perfect horizon. No asymmetrical payload bag. In a few seconds the experienced jumpers stabilized. BUT, the way you stabilize is to orient yourself with the horizon AND a heading reference. On a cloudy night you might have NEITHER. You can arch hard and you will end up belly to earth, but you can't stop a spin without a heading reference. An unchecked spin can increase in rotational speed until the jumper blacks out. An attached payload bag, unless tightly fastened and presenting a symmetrical drag profile relative to the jumper, will cause a spin. At the symposium I showed photos of a test jump I did with a large canvas bag affixed to one leg. It wasn't carrying loot, just radio telemetry gear. During initial freefall that bag almost flipped me over. I managed to compensate with my body. My exit speed was low (about 75 knots). If I had hit the airstream at Coopers exit speed I'd have gone unstable. In daylight I could have fixed it, especially as I slowed down to 120 mph terminal velocity. At might with no horizon or heading reference I don't think I could have stabilized. So I only agree with Jerry in one exit scenario, a delayed pull. If Cooper knew to pull right off the stairs I think he was stable, got a good chute and landed alive. After that I can't say. A water landing at night could easily be fatal. Even if he alighted on ground there could be problems. I've done a jet jump. I've made three jumps with a big bag. I've made jumps with a walkie talkie and operated it after opening.. I've never combined all three but I can tell you that at night it would be a major handful. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I've made quite a few hop and pops from 14,000 ft. Those winds aloft can be screaming yet very moderate on the ground. I've seen myself backing up FAST at 14,000 ft yet getting into really mild winds when landing. Cooper could have drifted a fair amount if he pulled right off the stairs. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Smokin99 wrote Yep. Sheridan Peterson, who has a lot more provable Cooper skills than LD was only ruled out by a DNA test. LD has been ruled out on DNA, has no provable Cooper skills (unless surveying is one) yet the FBI allegedly is still pursuing him as a suspect. What's the reason for the difference in evidentiary criteria? Hot blonde. Can that explain it? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

How come our gifted psychic isn't pushing Bill Gates off the richest man in the NW throne? I mean if he can accurately predict massive earthquakes, he could place a few highly leveraged stock mkt bets too. He could then buy dropzone and ban all of us spies. The forum really needs a counter intel cleansing. I've told my handler that the agency needs to depopulate the forum a bit. It's too obvious. Paranoia, grandiosity, claiming supernatural powers... Hmmm. Vicki, doesnt that fit some DSM code? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Jo wrote Well hush my mouth. Good for you Jo. I didn't think you had it in you. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

JT wrote We both heard her speak Jerry. She's no dummy. I can't see her putting the entire LD thing at risk by fabricating this Curtis Ng story, yet the story sounds fishy. She could have kept the momentum going without that kind of showdown. Farf might be right about the blue dress analogy. Maybe she has something. Time will tell and it won't be long. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Deathray wrote I hardly paid anything Deathray. Berkeley was damn near free if you were a CA resident in the 60s. It was a blast. If you think an EE degree is stupid you are entitled to your opinion. I've found it pretty useful in operating a CB radio and changing fuses. Breaker Breaker. So you are one of those non degreed geniuses like Gates and Jobs? I am waiting for your IPO. Will you give jumpers a chance to buy shares before it goes public? If you think Papp engines are the real deal put all your money with the latest developer. You'll make a 1000x return when it cuts the cord to foreign oil. Georger is unusually restrained. You have been pitching him slow balls right over the plate. If I didn't see subtle syntax distinctions I'd have suspected he was masquerading as Deathray, the new kid on the block. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Deathray wrote It was stupid to pull the plug, but that Papp engine was a total fraud. Papp was a cynical crook masquerading as a persecuted scientist. All perpetual motion machines of that ilk are a delusion or a scam. Glad you read about modern physics (Cern and C+) and think outside of the theoretical box. I am really surprised that Georger is able to restrain himself. I aced classic and quantum physics at a tough school but it was all that Newton and Einstein propaganda, so it doesn't count. No need to do dog and pony tricks for the Randi prize when you can get a Noble in a dignified manner. I don't like Feynman much (if his ego had mass, Earth would be a Black Hole) and I am an old jumper like you. Since we have so much in common why keep fighting? Peace brother and Blue Skys. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

I think she could make a lot more money endorsing any kind of cosmetic product she could claim to have been using. She doesn't look old enough to have even been alive in 1971. Seriously. Well, the predicted LD/Marla news storm was a light breeze centered in Oregon. What happened? Are reporters and editors skeptical? Blevins and Bruce. You guys are tuned in to media stuff. Why so little coverage? Almost zero. 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Uh.hate to tell ya....BUT..... that is not psychic ability at Sheridan... that was a very high statistical probability there. Wasn't Teds DZ referred to as the Bounce House? Wasn't he prosecuted for manslaughter after the n'th student went in with defective gear? (Seattle Times) 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Deathray wrote Damn. You ARE psychic! How could I have doubted? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.

Deathray, Since you are, like me, an old jumper I'll stop ranting about your gifted psychic claims and focus on Ted. If Ted was helping secure chutes for the FBI while Cooper was in the 727 then Ted couldn't possibly be Cooper. Right? OK. Now then, why would Ted feel the need to contact Ralph Himmelsbach when the skyjack news broke and tell him that he (Ted) isn't Cooper and has an alibi? Do you think Himmelsbach is lying about the call from Ted? 377 2018 marks half a century as a skydiver. Trained by the late Perry Stevens D-51 in 1968.