rhino

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/04/28/akbar.trial.ap/index.html

Semper Fi!

Interesting.. Israel will be taking care of Iran.. Who will we arm to take care or North Korea? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7658949/

If the Moderators thought this was the same post it would have been deleted. You are incorrect in your assumption. Apparently you didn't read them both. This is something skydivers need to think about. Some "policing our own" needs to happen quick fast and in a hurry. If we don't get a handle on this now it will only get worse. I've seen it get worse. More and more people come to this sport. That means more accidents if we don't increase awareness in key areas. One of those key areas is cool video awareness. People do things all the time.. Jumps they normally wouldn't have,, Swoops they may not normally have done "I've seen swoopers fly into hangers, trees, vehicles and stadiums trying to get cool video", things all the time that could have been stopped had they thought of this for a second. If ONE TEACHABLE non know it all skydiver, young or old remembers those words after reading this post.. Cool Video and prevents an accident it is worth it.. after all this is a safety forum.. I wrote this for you. Rhino

Interesting question? Is not blowing the dive and peer pressure going to get in the way of his judgement? Will he stand firm?

Let me tell you something.. Derek's skill level and record allow him to tell you any damned thing he wants. Everything I learned about what to do and what not to do started with the safety training and planning I got from him. He planned every detail of every jump. Knew aerodynamics like no one I have ever seen. That is partly why he can out track most people in a wing suit without one. He has a bazillion jumps on a VX60 loaded over 3:1 without incident. He has done test jumps that have benefited us all at his own risk time and time again putting his own ass on the line.. He is qualified and reserves the right.. What the hell have you done to tell him what he can't do? Enlighten me please? Whether you are intelligent enough to learn from him is your own prerogative. Rhino

I'm a MANGINA.. I've also been called a HEPUSSY.. lol What a great movie!!

Strike one against Botellines!! Strike 2!! Strike 3!!! And Botellines is outa there!!!

Wow.. All I have to say is WOW! I need to go back to college so I can get a better GRIP on things..

Man.. My main is only a 97.. I'll test jump it for you

Cool video... I've seen things happen over and over again in the 8 years I've been skydiving. Most if not all of the bad ones were directly related to someone getting the idea of cool video. When I hear it at the DZ I run.. I've heard it a few times and watched people die right in front of me. I don't want to see cool video unless getting it was an accident. WFFC 2003. I was in the back right hand seat of the helocopter. Someone on the ground wanted cool video. That was the last decision he ever made before I watched the main rotor strike him 4 times across the face and chest. I thought of his cool video while cleaning the blood off of my jumpsuit that night. I've seen swoops where someone wanted cool video. I don't need to tell you how they have ended up. Recent events we all know of could have possibly been the result of cool video. What's cool is staying alive to jump again. What is cool is speaking up so accidents don't happen. What is cool is having the balls to do what is right even if you are a newbie. If you see someone on your DZ.. ANYONE.. Even a 30 year veteran with 10,000 skydives and a million hours of video time say the words COOL VIDEO point him to this thread. Ask him or her to please reconsider and think of the consequences. People get complacent after years in the sport and thousands of jumps. Pilots and jumpers alike. The WFFC2003 is a good example. I have seen pilots agree to things just across that thin line because of peer pressure. Because of cool video. We have a responsibility not only to each other but the pilots that fly us to altitude on a daily basis putting their livelihoods on the line not to ask them to do things that can kill us and get them suspended. Us signing a waiver does not give us the green light to ask the pilot to do stupid things. DO NOT ask our jump pilots to shoulder the responsibility of our cool video. Be smart! Use good judgement! If you are going to be stupid do it yourself away from other skydivers and the planes... Let's watch out for each other, young and old, new or veteraned and speak up when we hear someone say the words cool video or ask something that is just across that safety line and in the almost safe zone. Spending too much time in the almost safe zone will up your meeting time with Segador.. We don't want that.. Please be safe and speak up from now on. Our sport, our friends and our lives depend on it.. Rhino

Bottom line.. I do TONS of high altitude hop-n-pops.. I know where the plane is at all times.. I know how long it takes for him to get to the ground vs how long it takes me. I know how long with different pilots. My life depends on it. I do not count on the pilot seeing me. i do not count on any pilot seeing me. I assume every plane in the air wants to kill me and I look out as best I can. when landing in proximity of the plane he has right of way. I will not land ANYWHERE he will either fly or Taxi when he is near the ground. I'll land in the student area or beyond. even from 14k I normally beat him down.. Mullins always beats me.. It is the pilots job to watch out for me but ultimately my ass is in my own hands based off of where I fly in proximity to that aircraft and it's airspace. If you don't want to land there don't fly over it. If you don't want to hit it.. Don't fly in the same airspace or time that it does. I do high alti hop-n-pops for a number of reasons.. I don't have to compete for airspace with other canopies.. when I pull high the pilot knows how high. I have a clean runway on landing. The piliot can warn other air traffic that their is an open canopy at 14k under xyz airfield and look out for me.. I've had Mullins go between me and another aircraft to get his attention. Very impressive.. It helps to keep the pilot informed and to fly defensively. Just some nuggets.. Take it or leave it.. Rhino

If you do that would at least make one of us

I'm Cherokee Indian.. No one knows my language? After all.. It was my peoples country first

I so wish I were in GA..

All I have to say is daaayuuuuum!!!

Exactly... Welcome.. If at first you don't succeed don't try skydiving

82 degrees 3 days ago.. And now it's snowing... I HATE Michigan..

What is on your mind girl? lol

Dr. Phil writes a great book on anger management

My opinion.. Ron is correct you are WAAAAAAAAYYYYYY off base... My opinion..

Ding! Ding! Ding! And what do we have for him Johnny!!

I know.. Kind of funny.. Novell.. It's what's for dinner..

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154220,00.html I hope they enact the firing squad..

Anyone know someone in the Detroit Michigan area with Novell 5.0 and 6.0 experience? Could mean $30 an hour, full time, minimum 1 year, paying overtime.. PM me with resume if you have this experience or know anyone.. Rhino