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Alright, I really don't see where you're coming from. On one hand, you're saying God says you can kill yourself, life is sacred, etc, etc, etc. On the other hand you're stating that God justified euthanasia/suicide in the Bible. So, which is it? This ad space for sale.
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Really, so where do you draw the line? If I can't kill myself because it's selfish, why should I be allowed to drink or smoke? Those are harmful to my body as well. At what point does my selfishness not allow me to do something? What if I don't have any family or friends that might be harmed by my death? Oh wait, I forgot. I have to stay alive for God, who is there even though I don't believe in him, because at some point I will believe in him, right? I think I got this figured out now. This ad space for sale.
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Why must you insist on pushing your religion on people? Not all of us buy into your morals, your beliefs and certainly not the bible. Personally I think suicide/euthanasia should be considered as a last resort. But if someone wants to snuff themselves out because life as they know it is has become too painful to endure, let them do it. It's their life, not yours or your God's. But the majority of the people in the US believe in God, so we're voting that you do too. After all, he does exist, and you're my brother, so I'm just trying to save you from going to hell. This ad space for sale.
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I agree. Most of these people who want to be euthanized are on a LOT of medications, IVs, respirators, foley bags, catheters, feeding tubes, or some combination of the above. What is the difference between euthanasia and the person refusing all medical care? It isn't God keeping these people alive, it is modern medicine. If someone refuses all medical treatment, and the family supports this, they would not die in peace, it would be very slowly and quite possibly painfully. Isn't it far more humane to allow for euthaniasia? Is refusal of medical care the same thing as suicide? Is it the same as euthanasia? Can a person be forced to maintain medications or other means to keep them alive? My feeling is that just because something can be done doesn't mean that it should be. Jen No, but because our lives are sacred we have to do everything possible to stay alive, use any new man-made technology to stay alive as long as we live, because by fighting our natural death while being in agonizing pain, somebody will feel get some faith or hope from it, maybe every now and then we'll have a few moments of realization and we can tell them how much we love them and it'll change their lives completely. Nevermind that the other 364 days of the year we'll be in agonizing pain and won't be able to function. But God loves us and wants us to live as long as possible. [/sarcasm] I'd rather live a life of one day in happiness than a hundred years in suffering -- something like that from "Bruce Lee" This ad space for sale.
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Props to her for fighting it out. What if someone doesn't -want- to fight it out? Because part of society believes I don't own my life, because it says so in a religious book, I can't kill myself? This ad space for sale.
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I just have to share this because I was disgusted.
unformed replied to Darius11's topic in Speakers Corner
Actually, I didn't even realize that he signed up for the forces and was getting paid. I change my mind; he took taxpayer's money, yes, it is unforgivable. This ad space for sale. -
I just have to share this because I was disgusted.
unformed replied to Darius11's topic in Speakers Corner
It's not unforgivable, but I will lose respect for them. I've done things I didn't really want to do, because I realized if I didn't go through with it, I would be a hypocrite. In the long run, I am very glad I went through with it. He's backed the war, he should go there and fight. This ad space for sale. -
Not everything is about money or percieved perceived inconvenience. Speling is a impurtant aspekt of efective writen comunicashun! - PhillyKev No it's not, but I am offering absolutely nothing to society by being a vegetable. Maybe somebody thinks "Oh wow he fought his pain for so long ... blah blah blah ... but what if I am hating life the whole way through .... I do believe life is sacred, but I'm very active, there's a lot of things I like to do and want to do .... if I was unable to do said things, I would see no purpose of living anymore. If I can't provide anything to anybody else or myself (besides a false sense of hope) there's no purpose left.) This ad space for sale.
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Great. I don't. And why does the word "selfish" have a negative conotation anyway? Just because others beliefs say something does not give them the right to force them on me. It was said yesterday the goverment has no business in the bedroom. That's small potatos compared to the goverment having a say in what a person chooses to do with their life. Majority rules brother. The majority of us believe that euthenasia is wrong. Sorry. How about this? If I kill myself, it has absolutely no effect on you whatsoever, so why bother? Oh, that's right, you (not you personally, but the general public) have a moral obligation to save my soul. This ad space for sale.
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Suicide is a selfish thing? I think sitting around being a vegetable having your family pay all of your medical bills, and take care of you, since you are unable to do anything yourself is a lot more selfish than going peacefully and letting your friends and family remember you for the good memories they had than all the months you were unable to do anything. Then again, I do believe it should be the person's own choice, regardless of whether people think we belong to an imaginary guy in the sky. This ad space for sale.
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if you read the post right above yours, I just told you why. It's all political bullshit .... the states gets more money by having it be illegal. This ad space for sale.
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Yes it is ... one big reason the states want it to be illegal is because suicide is illegal ... if someone commits suicde, it's a crime, and the state gets to seize your assets. that, and you have the religious right, saying life is so sacred that volutarily destroying it is a sin. This ad space for sale.
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What if I'm not comatose, but I am conscious, maybe paralyzed from the neck down, and I decide for myselfp that I would rather go now with my memories rather than be a burden on society and my family. Why should I not have the right to take my own life, or to request assistance from a doctor so that it is done as painlessly as possible. This ad space for sale.
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If you have a dog that is in a world of pain, and can barely function, it would be considered humane to put him to sleep. Why is it then considered cruel to do it to humans? Obviously, I am all for euthanasia ... if I am a vegetable, or close to it, and I am unable to do the things I want to do, I wouldn't want to live anymore. Somebody else might, and more power to them .... but my life should be my choice. This ad space for sale.
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seperation of church and state doesn't quite exist anymore. of course the evangelical crowd is going to take this comment as being "persecuted". This ad space for sale.
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Disaffected Americans look north to 'better government'
unformed replied to PhillyKev's topic in Speakers Corner
Fuck Canada. I'll go to Costa Rica. Beautiful weather, beautiful girls, an intelligent government. This ad space for sale. -
I agree, and Bush can get back to work taking away what few rights and little privacy we have left. This ad space for sale.
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they've been bought out by corporations. This ad space for sale.
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Ha! Proof that Darwinism is true. This ad space for sale.
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I voted, but I don't really care ... we're screwed either way. This ad space for sale.
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cool ... i just learned something today .... i always thought it was the coriolis effect .. This ad space for sale.
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I know where I'm going after my last jump. Same place where my grandparents are, and their grandparents, and exactly where I came from .... back into the earth. This ad space for sale.
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agree ... i thought it was a great story, great idea ... if they had executed it well it could have been an instant classic .... but they fucked up This ad space for sale.
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yeah, it's really cool when someone just asks you to do a two-way .... last week also at sebastian, harry did the same thing, it was my first jump in about a month and it made my day right then This ad space for sale.