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light inside the darkness that we need yeah.....we are coming HOOOOOOME! News Of Ronnie james Dio I saw him on "That Metal Show" with Eddie Trunk about a month or so ago, he discussed his condition then, but expressed he wasn't bothered about it. Hmph, oh well. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

I suspect they scuttled it to collect the insurance $$$ -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

"The Aban Pearl Sinks" I wonder when this kind of crap will stop. From what I know this Semi-Submersible sank because of a leak in a CSE. At least these guys didn't wait for something horrible to happen before making it to the life capsules and getting away from the rig. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

What you see in that photo is merely the riser collapsed to the left while it's still attached to the knuckle joint. It wouldn't matter if there was any drill pipe there, a simple move of a joy stick at the driller's cyber chair and it's outta there. Why would they have drill pipe in the Sub Sea BOPE Package? You don't need to worry about having drill pipe in the BOPE Package or anywhere near to Liner Top that has been sealed in the Sub Sea Well Head and a Sucessful Positive-Negative test having been performed? I believe this well control event may have been caused by channeling cement. I really don't like to discuss it but back in 1997 when I was a Drilling Foreman on a ****** Rig # 238 in Union Hill Louisiana we experienced much the same phenom. We had drilled the well succesfully, and we did the production part of the well with the drilling rig. We set our packer, performed a positive negative test at the packer top, and it was succesful. So we ran 3 1/2" tubing, stung into the packer, spaced it out and landed it in the well head, and tested the pack off and the void to 20K. We knew BHP was 12K-15K. Everything was going great until we went to NDBOPE Package. We got the Rotating Head on the cellar floor and next thing you know....BLAM...Raw gas at the surface near the wellhead. 1 minute later ignition, 15 minutes later the derrick was in the reserve pit and the rig was a total loss. Cement channeling is a problem. Another Operator had a well accross the street from ours, it was already in production status, next thing you know, there was drilling mud coming out on the surface from approx 15K BGL. They built a gigantic reserve pit around it and they were hauling off oil and salt water for the entire time I was there. You'll notice that on each side of the riser, there are 3" lines that run on each side of the riser to the surface, that is the choke & kill lines that go to our remote control panel, we use these lines to accuate our Sub-Sea BOPE Package. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

They are designed to shear through anything. Chances are they would shear through a "tool joint" on drill pipe, but bear in mind, there was no drill pipe inside the sub sea package at the time of the well control event. If the shear rams would have been operable (And I don't know they weren't) they should closed and sealed the well off. They had set cement plugs in the casing to T&A the well (Temporary Abandon) and that should have created a "Barrier" You always have to have at least 2 barriers. One barrier was the casing that was cemented in place, the other, the cement plugs that were set in place, (As Per MMS) and they had a 3rd barrier w/ the sub sea package. It's hard to understand how a sub sea BOPE package works because you can't see it, all of the "Floaters" I've been on have had ROV's w/ cameras and you could see anything you wanted, big huge gigantic fish swimming around etc...What I know from what I've researched so far is they were merely displacing drill mud out of the riser with sea water (Which is common) in preperation to disconnect from the sub sea well head to move either port, starboard, bow or the stern position to finish pulling the 4800' or so of drill pipe, then pull the 17 1/2" riser. Cosequently reducing the amount of hydrostatic pressure indide the riser. Riser is simpley the pipe that connects on top of the "Knuckle Joint" of the upper most annulur preventer to allow movement, kind of like a ball joint works on your A frame on your car. It then enables lowering the sub sea package to the sub sea well head which is then set in place and latched via remote control via the surface controls on the rig floor. The riser goes to the surface where a "Slip Joint is placed under the rig floor inside the "Moon Pool. Each "Floater" has a sub sea engineer, I'm not clear on whether he was amoung the missing or not, but he, or one of the rig managers would be in the position to answer that. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

I remember this Blow Out. (Dry, uncontrolled well bore) Ol' Red killed that well by dropping thousands of steel balls the size of golf balls and sealed that thing off. I was amazed. There wasn't anything ol' Red couldn't do. His most famous kill was the "Devil's Cigarette Lighter" in the Sahara Desert. Red's Bio -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

If you guys wish to continue to import 2/3 of our daily usage of oil, be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. We need to be energy independent and stop making the middle eastern countries rich(er) -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

In my profession we refer to that as a "419" 99% of them come from Africa. Stay away from them, block them from your address book. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

Well she could have said: Box, Pussy, Dick Ditch, Love Canal, Vagina....I got more. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

Hell Yeah! I always thought he was a bit much, but everyone has their own personality. But like Phree said, he was warned how many times? So I reckon he done it to himself. But I believe there's room for redemption in this case. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

You mean the top nominee for the 2010 Darwin Award Candidate? -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

You mean cunt? -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

Pics And Sonar Of Deep Water Horizon's Resting Place There also literally hundreds of links loaded with first hand accounts of crew members speaking to the media. Bad move on their part, IMHO. The odd thing about that ROV attempting to close the "Blind Shear Rams" is the switch is set toe the "OP" position. If they could just get the Blind Shears to close they would slam shut cutting & shearing anything in it's path & the flow of hydrocarbons & massive amounts of methane gas would be stopped from flowing. My fear is the storable bottles of NO2 mounted on the Sub Sea BOPE package have been depleted. Remember prior to this well control event they were displacing the riser itself with sea water before the disconnect of the riser to the well head, with drill pipe in the riser. this considerably reduces the hydrostatic pressure inside the riser itself. Because they had ran a liner, cemented it and hung it off the wellhead itself, this tells me that the cement job may have possibly "Channeled" and they didn't have a sufficient bond around the circumference of the liner which would serve as a completion casing. I don't have any information concerning this topic, but if it had been me, after the cement job I would have pulled approx 4-5 hundred feet above the liner top, reverse circulated a minimum of two times, secured the well and observed the backside, or casing pressure to insure no influx of formation fluids were entering the wellbore. Your casing pressure will build some because of the cement activation ingredients generating heat, which causes expansion generating casing pressure, but if they had the cement lab results on board they would have known how much expansion and pressure to expect. Remember when we drill these wells no matter where you are we control them with our mud weight which compensates for formation pressure, the higher the "Pore Pressure" the higher the mud weight needs to be to keep hydrocarbons in the formation utilizing more hydrostatic pressure with a higher mud weight. Hydrostatic pressure = MW X 0.052 X TVD (True Vertical Depth) MW = (Mud weight of mud utilized during the drilling process) 0.052 = A mathamatical "constant" You can relate hydrostatic pressure much like swimming to the bottom of a 22' deep swimming pool, you can actually feel the hydrostatic pressure on your body, divers should be acclaimated to this feeling that hydrostatic pressure exerts on their bodies. A riser disconnect from the well head is a simple process and usually always uneventful, however this time it was evenful. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

Don't do business with people whom your not really familiar with. I've bought & sold a lot of equipment here on DZ.Com and have NEVER had the first problem. I don't know what happened in his case, but I would have took care of it myself one way or another. The biggest thing that annoyed me was after he got his $$$ he made a request for the greenies to remove his post. "So there wouldn't be any sour grapes" He had a sour grape taste in his mouth before he ever posted that OP. Cha! Personally, I would have brokered the deal the same way I do when I buy firearms. Hopefully I've addressed your query. I agree with everything you've said above, I'm in no disagreement whatsoever. Be honest, there's a lot worse things that could happen to one's self....right? If that's the worst thing he goes through in the next 12 months, he's a lucky man!

Wendy: We are in 100% agreement on this point. But AFTER he recieved his money, he offered this: He offered this after he recovered his funds. I just don't think it's appropiate to go that route. I've had these same problems in the past, and I've always taken care of my own business. Anytime you make a PayPal transaction, ya gotta know you may get the prod instead of the product. The deal should have been brokered. IMHO.

Your post was an intentional effort on your behalf to recover your $$$. You achieved your objective, it's really too bad you couldn't communicate effectively with them without having to "air your dirty laundry" as it were. Personally I dissagree with your methods, however I will give you props for your manupilating skills. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

Excuse me for saying so, but I could swear your fishing for information on this deal. Questions are one thing you have plenty of. Only the young & inexperienced of petroleum based personal would remark on this event, let alone answer the types of questions your asking. I apologise in advance if I'm wrong on this one. I've been deposed more than once over the years, and no one asks questions like you do for personal information. If it's a professional witness your looking for, your barking up the wrong tree with me. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

First of all, how do you know if there were, or weren't any backup systems available? Be careful what you say about this event in any forum. I wished I could refer to your question without fear of repriseal, but I can't, and won't. I will offer that this well control event and it's effects will be remembered long after we're all gone.

This Is The Rig That Caught Fire And Sank, Before It Went To The Deep Check out some of the links on the left side of the page to learn more about the latest in oil and gas E&P. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

See Here For Latest Update On Oil In GOM It's getting uglier each day. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

The inevitable environmental disaster aside, my main concern is how smart do you have to be to throw a match on the spill and set the entire GOM afire, along with all of the other surface producing oil & gas wells in it's path. Once the fire makes contact with the SOR's on the coastline from mexico to florida, this is the "big bang" that could be of biblocol proportions. I bet you won't be real interested in the haitians well being then Bill. Bill I can assure you I do not have any $$$ invested in this well, nor will I profit off of it one way or another. The "template" I mentioned refers to MSWord templates used in the legal system to file law suits. I guess I'll just have to "dumb down" when ever I'm remarking about an event like this. And once more, I don't drink, please do not make veiled inferences to it in my regards, I consider this a PA on my behalf. RE: my sig line. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

It's a well known fact I don't drink. I think it's obvious you've never been on a drillin rig, cause you do not understand the oilfeld acronyms. -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

rgoper@msn.com -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

I just thought the knoocs were winesoaked. Now, here in our own little piecd of the gulf of mexico sure enough, a Semi_Submersible Exploded, Immediately full on flame. 36 hrs of all evacuation or the rig personal, still not even a piece of a body has bee found. AND YET-T-Aha! Not one of you cared about any of that situation, even now when the rigs is on bottom, and no survivors, I haven't heard a "Peep" out of you guys. C'Mon, lets have a spirited debate, and lye blame at all off the "Big Guys" feet. Get some ink and some files and wazoo! We're now ready to see you sir, just come over here and fill out these templates and we'll get them signed asap!! Just follow me son!! -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"

Technically, you're making a racially targeted remark. When they come to where ever you are and cut your fucking head off, we'll talk to you. We'll see how you hold up. Trust me Bro, these people want to kill you, and yours. Ya might want to watch the smart remarks. Or Apologize to them in these forums, if you have the nerve. Chances are you wont do it. Whoose Muhammad -Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall"