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You are partially right. It is not the presence of guns. It is "too many guns in the wrong hands ". Yet no one wants to admit that the wrong hands are not only the thugs and "traditional "criminals. And yes, there are LOTS of responsible gun owners, even in the US. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

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I work 2 minutes from there. One of the cradles of rock and roll scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

does that mean that there is an issue with people who are severly medicated for mental health problems who still have access to guns. Lots of guns.. And ammo... MMMHHH I love the smell of powder

http://www.wbir.com/story/news/2015/10/04/fatal-shooting/73329258/ Anything wrong here ? Who is responsible ? Should the boy have his 2nd amendment rights infriged by having his guns pulled ? scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

come to Switzerland

that might be a part of the problem : -you can buy guns & ammo (not the magazine, see what I did there) at Walmart -you can shoot in your backyard. and you have explained the nice similarities between our people. Not found WHY in one case some people go nuts with guns. Here I can assure you that MOST gun possessors ( I won't call them owners, as they are only depositary people of government issued weapons) do not care to get a carry permit, and will only transport their weapon from home to the firing range and back. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

did you see the pictures of the plane ? That should take a couple of days But it is not the only plane on their fleet anyways... scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

so what makes the difference between having a country with lots of guns and close to no gun violence, and another country with lots of guns with lots of gun violence ? How are we different ? Why is it that in one of the countries people want guns because they have the right to have them, and not in the other one ? Feeling insecure much ? P.S. By the way I like guns, I enjoy shooting (from 9mm Pistol to 15.5cm Howitzer, and my favorite is Browning M2 .50Cal) but wouldn't want to buy any. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

I am thinking some people would have trouble finding how communist our far right political parties are scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

and if you want to have fun translating : regarding "carrying weapons" from https://www.fedpol.admin.ch/fedpol/fr/home/sicherheit/waffen/faq.html we make a big differnce between "transporting a weapon" and "carrying a weapon". Gun holder goes hunting or shooting at the range : transport, no question asked. Gun holder carries weapon for self defense/protection : needs to pass an exam etc etc etc... scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

has anyone done a "statistics" thing like on the actual BFL ? Would be interested to find out details by type of canopy... scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

you might find interesting reply here https://www.ch.ch/en/acquiring-firearm/ This is what we call our Army. The actual age is more 20-32. Every male swiss Citizen "should" serve, but the actual numbers show that this is not true anymore. Until the 90's we had a 800'000 men army. Now it is around 200'000. Out of which around 1'000 women. http://www.vtg.admin.ch/internet/vtg/fr/home/dokumentation/publik_zeitrschr/publikationen.parsys.76089.downloadList.25051.DownloadFile.tmp/kurzfassungarma2014f.pdf. Approximately 20% of these people do not keep their weapons at home, mostly for safety or convenience reasons. Mainly in towns. They might have kids at home, and don't want to mix kids and guns, they don't have space to keep the weapons safe enough against theft or misuse. So they have the possibility to leave their military gear at the arsenal, and pick it up when they are on military duty, or for their yearly mandatory shooting session (kind of currency requirement) yes. For us shooting is a sport. Not a " I need to protect myself and my family at all cost" kind of thing. Every 4 years there is even a "National Shooting Competition" which spreads over a month, involving 40'000 shooters from across the country, and in lots of different categories. good luck with that. You can also have a read (and a Google translate) at that https://www.admin.ch/opc/fr/classified-compilation/19983208/index.html scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

How about we do what other countries are doing who don't have this problem? What are they doing differently that causes the stark incredible difference in violent gun death and incidences? Switzerland. They have it figured out. Per capita, they have the highest rate of gun ownership in Europe, but the lowest rate of gun violence. There is a culture there of introducing children to guns in a controlled environment and teaching them about shooting and gun safety. Instead of trying to demonize guns, kids start joining gun clubs as young as 12 years old. Guns are common, available, a major pastime sport, and NORMAL. Here we demonize them. We try to keep hem away from everyone. Some people want one just cause they can't have it.it is nice to see Switzerland cited as an example but this is not really how it works. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

Decent analysis. 31 school shootings since Columbine. No change in gun regulations. 1 failed shoe bombing in a plane and we all need to take our shoes off scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

maybe "he" is a she. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

mandatory in Spain In Switzerland mandatory for students and tandems. Recommended for licensed skydivers. Some AAD's are prohibited at certain DZ's (Argus). scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

which freedom ? like Bridge Day 2015 freedom ? scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

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was she trying to do a Nicki Minaj ? scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

Lucky he's not up for a Darwin award. Really stupid move. I can't fault the cops on that one at all. DonYeah, who in his right mind would think that sticking your hand out with an object through gunfire would be a smart move ? He is Lucky he only got injured and ridiculed.... scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

maybe you an exorcist. Did you let other people try your Viso's ? Sometimes people don't go well with some electronics. I had a Watch which would stop when I wore it, but worked perfectly when I left it on the table. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM

I learnt lots of things, specially in the human relationships. Specially that you always need to keep lube handy scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM