jakee

There’s a general assumption that normal people understand what taxes are for.

So you’re not being sarcastic, you are genuinely peddling this bullshit? Pick a fucking lane.

But you're not saying that it is, because you're not arguing the state of the economy, right? Yeah buddy, I'm sure someone out there believes you.

So you agree that it's a problem that so many people incorrectly think that Trump would be better for the economy, and would consider voting for him despite his stated desire to overthrow democracy and the constitution. So what are you doing to try and persuade those people that they are wrong?

So, a liar who doesn't really stand for anything. Yeah, that's what I said.

This whole subject is highlights such a contradiction in the right wing world view. The case study of Brent (a true believer in trickle down economics and being nice to billionaires because they make all the jobs) and Musk (a billionaire who employs lots of people) is pretty weird. Musk: Builds Tesla into the most valuable company in the world with 140,000 US employees, which I'd imagine are skewed heavily towards highly paid tech jobs. Brent: Tesla is a joke and I can't wait for it to fail! Musk: Builds SpaceX into a $100Bn company with 15,000 US employees (again many well paid tech jobs) and resurrects the US from a country who could no longer reach the ISS on their own back to the undeniable global leader in space. Brent: Only a liberal moron would think SpaceX is what success looks like! Musk: Buys Twitter as a going concern, tanks its income streams, wipes 75% off its value, and fires 80% of its workforce (often illegally), making thousands of people unemployed and publically mocking any of them who dare complain. Brent: These are the greatest days that the world of Business has ever seen and Elon Musk is a god like genius! Almost like he's not really judging the merits...

Utter bullshit, and trying to hide behind Google is just sad. You’re obviously talking bollocks, so just man up and admit it. Utter bullshit again. You may disagree with Biden’s policies but he’s not a piece of shit because of that. You’re demonstrating the absolute worst of America’s broken, divisive politics right now. Why is that who you want to be?

Why? What point are you using that fact to support?

Try blowing that dog whistle a bit harder next time, I don’t know if I quite got the point you were trying to make.

So? What’s your point? ”People think it’s bad” ”It’s really not” ”Yeah but they think it is” … Ok. And? Where do you want to go with that thought?

Not the saddest attempt at trolling I’ve ever seen - but gets bonus points since some people consider you as one of the guys who should know better.

These are all very flowery and persuasive sentiments... But I notice you haven't elaborated on even one specific thing you think liberals are doing which is unconstitutional, hateful or bigoted. Almost as if there really aren't any.

Some people can tell the difference between an oppressed population seeking self determination and an oppressive ruling class seeking to continue oppressing and subjugating. And some people are clueless.

Though for the sake of balance Brent himself has been very clear that his wife is an independently successful woman making her own decisions, vehicular and otherwise (IIRC).

I haven't, so I can only go by the stuff he chooses to tell us. If he doesn't really believe the racist, pro-confederacy stuff he posts that's his problem, not mine.

That's what happens when reality is on my side and hypocrisy is on yours.

Winsor has a habit of posting staggeringly racist things, and a habit of defending the Confederacy as the unjustly injured party. My assertion is a pretty straightforward 'if x then y' of Winsor's own words. By contrast, you have absolutely nothing to say about the topic as per usual and are simply posting an ad hom that serves no purpose than to be an ad hom, as you often do with several different people here. The needling is entirely yours and entirely pointless.

Do you agree with Winsor's message?

But it just kills you they couldn't stretch it out a bit longer.

Absolutely, 100% yes it was. Honestly right, when you said this “oh wait, making a sex tape with an underage minor is perfectly legal?“ did you seriously think people would understand that you actually meant any of what you said above? Of course they wouldn’t. So, is it really so hard to just say what you mean?

Then what in the actual fuck was your point?

Now you’re making stuff up because that’s not what I said you said. You specifically said you CAN’T HAVE natural variability and global warming. You said it could only possibly be one or the other. And not just once, you’ve said over an over again that CO2 arming can’t be real if one year is ever colder than the year before. So again, why should anyone listen to anything you say about climate? But hey, if we do talk about your article what do we have? You, Mr Free Market uber alles guy saying hey look at all these farmers mad that their diesel subsidies were taken away - this is what happens when idealism hits reality! But… it’s your idealism being protested against, isn’t it?

Yeah, but you also said El Niño / La Niña was impossible if climate change was real - so why should anyone care what else you have to say?

As Joe says, it’s nowhere near half - but the number there are have very effectively taken over the party structure that is supposed to be representing the half that they are part of. So when you have the hugely disproportionate control over policy from a group of people so extreme it’s and divisive that they call Liz Fucking Cheney part of the liberal machine, what are you supposed to do? Not call it out, and just let them get in with it because making waves is bad?

As much as Mitch McConnell damaged politics, pulled the levers of power to create policies and structure grossly at odd with the democratic will of the people, and fostered the unchecked growth of extremism in the GOP… he is at least a sane person who understands that government is important and at some point you have to be willing to compromise if the only alternative is a government that does not work at all. So while he is a better devil than the ‘burn it all down if we don’t get what we want because total victory is the only thing that matters’ crazy MAGA person who might succeed him, it is also largely his fault that his successor might be such a person.