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I was thinking some Wil E Coyote style contraption. Acme rockets heh? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I'm no longer mocking you or anyone, I'm simply pointing out that free fall is not possible without the removal of the structure or platform that the free falling object was propped up by. You can have all the credentials in the world, you still have to make sense to I have asked you multiple times to explain to me how you think it is possible. Before you simply said, "there was no free fall", now that NIST was forced to admit free fall, you have simply resorted to either silence or 'mocking' those that question your belief. How about you be honest with yourself, me and everyone reading this, and explain how questioning the official narrative is so silly when such simple physics are irrefutable. You can start by telling us how the building could collapse at free fall speed, and how you accept that notion. Nist told us how they were poised to collapse and created some funky computer model of chaos. No one has explained this anomaly, you say it is not an anomaly, yet you cannot explain it. So enlighten me, you can use one of your silly analogies if you please. Maybe a skydiver free falling through a pile of falling and static debris something? But you clain faster than freefall collapse. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

they did fall too fast, free fall is too fast. Nist admits free fall of at least building 7, you are supposed to be an engineer, and you believe that it is OK for a steel framed building to fall at free fall speed. some engineer! I'm confused about how any conspiracy activity would have contributed to the building(s) falling "too fast." What activity linked to a conspiracy would have allowed for such speed that non-conspiracy explanations could not account for? In other words, if the arguement is that the speed of the collapse could not have occured given the explanation of the commission, how does that point to a conspiracy? Do you think some additional downward pressure was exerted by the conspirators efforts? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I've changed my mind on this one. I now believe religious beliefs are due to lack of alcohol. Every person I know that has successfully went thru treatment to stop drinking belives strongly in God. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Have you noticed that the naysayers and deniers refuse to acknowledge love. It apparently does not exist in their world, except as narcissism it would seem. Big time naysayer here, and I very strongly acknowledge love. On what basis do you think love requires faith? Love is an emotion, and from the standpoint of understanding human behavior, is very similar to other emotions - such as fear, anger, joy, etc. It is internally created by the lower parts of the brain; remnants of and deeply rooted in our past. It is not the result of higher thinking, complex decision-making, belief in dieties, etc. It is a limbic reaction to external stimulii. Specifically, love appears to be rooted in important survival mechanisms like pair-bonding, protection of offspring, and the like. But Hallmark is very happy that it is now tied to the imagery of the heart, pithy holidays, and the purchase of their goods. Why people of faith think they have the market cornered is a mystery; but it is a common claim, as if love did not exist before religion got invented - which is a blink of an eye in the history of human existence. Love as an emotion has been around since it was important for creatures to be close to each other - all the meanings attached to it since our cortexes started getting huge are inventions of the mind. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

IQ scores are not related to education. Wrong. There is most definitely a direct positive correlation between higher levels of education and higher IQ scores. That in itself does not establish cause and effect, but to say they are not related is simply not true. There are other un-PC relationships between IQ and things like income & family structure regardless of whether people like it or not. Usually their objection stems from misunderstanding the distinction between relationship and cause (and what they think it infers about them personally). For example, most base jumping occurs from tall objects. I'm guessing there is a positive (and probably very strong) positive correlation between base jumping events and proximity of tall objects; but neither once causes the other. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

So we should bump them for 2 extra strokes? " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

My observation is that atheists do not sell or push atheism; but a lot of people are selling religion. Never had anyone knock on my door to try to convince me to be atheist; but have had to endure an endless continuum of religion salespeople knocking on my door pushing their God. For non-religious types, religion is a non-issue until a religious person tries to impose their will or beliefs. I don't see non-religious people pushing for people to be non-religious until they feel the need to defend themselves from a believer. Even when confronted with a believer's pitch, rather than argue against religion, they are more likely to say "keep it to yourself" than "you should switch sides." It occurs to me that arguements for religion are mostly on offense, and the non-religious amongst us mostly are on defense - usually in reactionary mode. Look at this beauty pageant scuttlebutt. No atheists came out declaring people must switch to atheism, or become gay, or eat meat during Lent; but we got a bimbette instigating debate by slamming specific lifestyles and quoting the Bible as evidence for her position. I doubt anybody would care at all what her beliefs are, but she had to come out with a statement insinuating people should behave in a certain manner for religious reasons. It is a portion of the religious that can't live and let live. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Same could be said for about 80% of the humans on the planet. Being exposed to them is risky business. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Yes, you would think intelligent adults, especially those in the role of finding solutuions to our nation's challenges, would not be fountains of hyperbole, exxageration, and outright lies. Unfortunately, enough of the public lap it up - so they consider it a valuable tool. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Went thru the same with my dad last year. I was pretty shocked when he said it; but had to acknowledge that he did not want to live with the mind of an adult while getting cared for like a newborn; a terminally sick newborn at that. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

It's the IOC that needs to be probed. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

like there is with a national health service? Exactly, but with the addition of the downward price pressure exerted by competition rather than price-fixing we'll see with a government plan. It is possible to have the best of both worlds. National level regulation for consistency in rules, and competition to keep prices in check. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I have not read the article; but if it is stated that vaguely it is useless info. Last I heard, 100% of people die. But seriously, the methodology used to get to that number would be most interesting. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

The question, and my answer, was about HCF, and is correct. Many of the current rules inhibit competition, and keep them bottled into niches - especially the not so big companies. Phamacuetical companies fall into the category of providers, not insurance. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Not sure what the point was in relation to your comments. His father was very ill, seems they had money for treatment, got every kind of treatment possible, etc. I'm not saying everyone does not deserve access to quality care, just wondering how his story about his father connects. I was expecting a horrifying anecdote about an uninsured person being denied life-saving care; and instead saw just the opposite. So it was a here's-how-it-should-work story? Good enough, everyone knows that. BTW, I do not support the current situation; and so of course do not support simply extending it to more people. Wierd thing is that people are so critical of the current system (me too), but so many are more than happy to simply make it even bigger. Bizarre. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

For the most part, and in general; they are for legislation that moves toward an even playing field and open competition. They are very against creation of a subsidized government run insurance plan (basically a government run insurance company). It would be no different than if the government decided to go into the gas station business and decided to open tax-subsidized distribution centers across the street from every existing gas station. Or open grocery stores and sell below cost. They are very divided on whether or not all HCF organizations must be not-for-profit. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

That was nothing more than an emotional tirade. Hyperbole and exxageration only make people less credible. If he had said legislators are owned by lobbyists in general, I'd buy that; but they are not wholly owned by just the insyrance lobby. The accusation that insurance companies are fully at fault for the current economic crisis is BS too. Our banking and finance industry did that, and why is our legislature refusing to reform any of those rules. The rules that allowed that to happen have not changed at all. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

I like that. Cut their spending to 1 part per 10 million, and assure them their checkbook still "remembers" having the money. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Then I choose to believe that the Rising Sun is a house in New Orleans. And it's been the ruin of many a poor boy. 9Cue the jangly guitar) " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Libertarian . . . victim. Oxymoron alert #2 for the day. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

All humans serve their beliefs. Beliefs lead to personal principles (rules), principles drive behaviors. No way around that, we all act out according to what we believe to be true. Or put another way, each person's life is the perfect manifestation of what they believe to be true. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Oxymoron alert. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

From Modern Manners: It's not a real party if there is a guest list. It's not a real party if there is a cute theme. It's not a real party if the cops don't show up at least once. It's not a real party if the music isn't loud enough to kill the bird and make the cat pee. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

Oh yeah, I love humorous spins on nuggets of truth. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley