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So why are you so comfortable with taking people's rights without due process? How would you define a "whackadoodledoo"? Or should people's rights be removed on the whim of some bureaucrat? You piss and moan about a police state and then suggest these draconian new govt powers and authority. Can you square this, or should we chalk it up to hypocrisy? I like that you called it a no buy list. Are you familiar withthe no fly list? Do you know how many problems there are with that list? How many people have been pulled off flights for no reason. Do you want your constitutional rights in the hands of a paper pushing power tripping govt goon? No voting for you, you're on the no casting list. No freedom from search and seizure, you're on the no security list. No guns for you, you're on the no buy list. No alcohol for you, you're on the no imbibing list. And so on and so forth. "What's that? That's not you, just a similar name? Dont know how you got on there? Tough luck. Due process? Getting off the list? Ha, good luck with that. Rights? You've got the right to shut up and do as you're told." Welcome to amazon's land of freedom. Some animals are more equal than others. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

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was not answered You have anything to say? Up to the owner, but owner should also have strict liability for any accident or misuse. More liabilty than when some other items is stolen or involved in an accident? Why? No opinion Good, we can agree that there is no reason to artificially limit magazine capacity. Fine We're in agreement there. Anyone juvenile enough to play soldiers is welcome to do so. I don't see anything juvenile about wanting to use a proven design of rifle that has a significant aftermarket potential. I just wanted to know if you were on board with the silly anti-gun idea that "assault weapons" are bad and should be banned. I'm glad you are not. OK, but should be licensed. We can argue the merits of that some other time, but since that is already the case, it's good to know that you are not for the idea of expanding restrictive gun laws. Fine but should have mandatory training and a background check. I think that's how Texas does it. So you are against the states that allow unlicensed concealed carry (there are a few out there), but you also oppose laws in Wisconsin and Illinois that prohibit concealed carry. Good to know. Are you also against states where concealed carry is legal but permits are never greanted (such as NJ, NY, CA, and others)? If you want to appear like a macho boy, that's fine with me. I don't carry openly unless I am working a job where it is required (law enforcement, militrary, other security, etc). I also don't appreciate your suggestion that I would be compensating for something if I did carry openly. But I am comforted that you support open carry. And I answered yours. I didn't even make you ask five times. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Your condescending tone does not speak well of your respect for the rights of others. I also notice you didn't bother to answer my very first question. So what do you think about requiring registration of all firearms? I'd like an answer to that one. Do you think the high firearms death rate in the USA compared to other western industrialized nations is acceptable? I am uncomfortable with the high homicide rate. I think it is ridiculous to be concerned about the item used. Otherwise I would ask you if the high motor vehicle death rate is acceptable. Do you think there's absolutely nothing that can be done about it? I'm open to suggestions. Do your think anyone should be able to buy a gun without a background check, even if it means felons can do so easily? Do you have any suggestions on how to enforce that? Do you plan to register every firearm? If not, then there is no way to make this happen. Do you think restrictions on the right of felons and the mentally unstable to own guns are reasonable? If so, how would you go about enforcing them? Yes. But you really need to get past this obsession with focussing on the firearms. I am still waiting for you to define "loony" "nutter" and now "mentally unstable." When you do that, we can have a conversation about their rights. If you mean someone who has been adjudicated insane, or who has been committed, then their rights are restricted in accordance with the law. If you mean anyone with a whacked out youtube video, or anyone that makes you uncomfortable, then I am not ok with curtailing their rights to make you feel better. I believe in due process. I don't believe in removing someone's rights without it. I can keep going with the if/then statements, but until you define your terms, I can't really discuss them with you. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

So, forget the bill of goods we were sold in regards to Iraq. Would the people supporting President Obama have supproted Bush going into Iraq on the basis of stopping slaughter of Kurds, Shi'ites (or was it Sunnis) and other people Saddam didn't like? And for anyone who believes we should be in Libya helping out, why shouldn't we be in Syria, or Rawanda, or Liberia? Bahrain? Mali? Somalia? Or any other country where a dictator is oppressing the masses and people want to protest or fight back? Where do they draw the line in the sand? Is there any clearly defined boundries or rationale to the "Obama Doctrine"? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

So you can't find a reasonable answer, so you're going to keep it to yourself, and somehow this is a failure on my part? Negative, Ghostrider. That's you pulling a five-year-old "Screw you guys, I'm going home, and taking the ball with me." witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Why are you so adamant that sane people not be able to use the most effective means of defense when confronted with lunatics intent on harming them? Do you want to hand over all your responsibilty to the government and trust them to protect you? Neither do I. So why would you support requiring others to do that? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Care to comment on your support for the last guy who did far worse.... without a peep from you or your fellow travellers..... WHY DAT??? Apparently the right wing has forgotten all the Clinton bashing they did (and continue to do) after he left office. Its the lack of blow jobs..... they still begrudge the man all those blowjobs. The right wing.. always has been and apparently always will be a sad bunch of cockblockers ... if they can't get none.. no other guy should be getting some. Impressive thread hijack (and another good example of jeanne's obsession with politicians' sexual kink). I could give a shit about what you say the rightwing did. Can you point to a post where I used a D to excuse the wrong acts of an R president? Then your point is a worthless dodge. Are either of you going to comment on President Obama, Libya, American intervention into humanitarian crises, or how this is different? Or will you run and hide behind "Bush did it first" and "Republicans hid behind 'Clinton did it first'"? Both show intellectual dishonesty and inability to address the issue at hand. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I heard an former military officer (Col, but I don't remember his name) on the radio the other day who stated that having a timetable and exit strategy for Iraq didn't imply that the war was any better planned than what's going on in Libya. He pointed out that the exit strategy and timetable for Iraq were pure fiction. Having a timetable and exit strategy for Libya, while it may be comforting, probably won't have anything to do with what actually happens. I wish we had stayed out of the conflict in Libya, and I sincerely hope we can extricate ourselves quickly, but not having a timetable of exit strategy doesn't mean much to me. I agree wholeheartedly. I mentioned time-tables because I seem to recall the president or one of his advisors talking about US forces being there "short term; days, not weeks," I really don't see how the US can get involved in every humanitarian crisis without causing the country to go under that much faster. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Hey it sure helped the last guy and all his PNAC buddies who got rich to sell the country a large plate of BULLSHIT Congratualtions on bashing a guy who isn't in office. Care to comment about the guy that is, or the situation at hand? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Perhaps you have no idea what you're talking about, hove no idea what I'm thinking, and are in fact completely full of it. Have fun with that. Really? How many of them are turning yellow from jaundice? Or losing teeth and finger nails? Most of the vegans I've dealt with looked more sickly that the bleach-blonde smiling bimbos in Hollywood. Those lard-assed imbecilies at BurgerKing are killing themselves just as surely as the moronic vegans. disclaimer for reasonable people: I know there are healthy vegans out there. I've spent time with them. But the preachy blathering and constant propaganda get very annoying. I've yet to meet a vegan who didn't. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Have you even bothered to read the thread? It was policy to photograph the dead for identification. What, do you think every single one of those photos constitutes a murder or a war crime? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

But not all so at least we have cleared the air in this department and recognise that Israel has broken international law for decades. Not what I said. Try not to put your words in my mouth: I'd rather not learn the taste of bullshit. Yes they are - just like Israel - none of the parties are innocent. Yes, yes and Israel. Hamas have publically stated they support both a two state solution and that during peace talks they would support the decision of the Palestinian people. If you think they are lying and will only do what their charter states then there is a very simple way of destroying all their credibility - take them up on the repeated verbal offers of peaceful settlement and then point self satisfactorily as they fail to uphold these statements. Obviously Israel will not since they have demonstrated quite clearly since '04 or so that they are fearful of the peace offensive. Unlike Israel they have actually maintained ceasefires. At least when Israel fires into Gaza, they have targets. Hamas has been lobbing rockets into civilian neighborhoods for as long as they've had rockets. The fact that you think Hamas has credibility shows me that any more discussion with you is pointless. "Maintained the ceasefires"? What a joke. Have fun rooting for the suicide bombers and terrorists. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Its pretty easy - one maintains hospitals and the other shells hospitals. One builds hopsitals, the other attacks them with car bombs and suicide vests. Bombing civilians is never acceptable so no I didn't say its understandable. It is obviously to be expected. Actions garner reactions. Attacking government and military targets is to be expected. Blowing up a bus stop is terrorism. Not equivalent in terms of force or morality. Yes, you are completely wrong. It infers that the level of discussion inside the US/UK is fraudulent, pathetic and ironically much more ideological than in the Israeli media itself. For the ignorant the clock starts ticking when Israel are attacked - so again where is the thread about Israel shelling civilians 48 hours before the bus attack? None existent - standard in the US and UK. Should I just get you pom poms, a bullhorn, and "I Hamas" tshirt? Or would you prefer the "Death to the Great Satan" tshirt? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

My favorites are the skinny yellow malnourished vegans running around using all kinds of plastic, rubber, and petroleum based products. Yep, you're animal friendly snowflake. You're just killing the planet while you do it. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

I think the milk example is a good one. Organic milk is way more expensive than regular milk. I don't see any advantages to organic milk over regular milk. I think there are huge advantages of raw milk (regular or organic) over pasturized regular or organic milk. I guess I'm lucky. They overcharge for everything here, so organic milk is only a dollar or two more than regular, and it just tastes better. But don't expect me to start refusing anything that isn't "certified organic." In most places, you'd have to be certifiable. I'll get the free range "stuff-free" food when I can, but let's be honest, if you're in it for the animals, you'd be vegetarian. I'm in it for me. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Really, just not allow him on campus. OK. And how would you enforce that? Ten foot concrete walls topped with razor wire and watch towers? Post campus police every fifty feet? If he's so freaking crazy that he plans to shoot people, what is going to stop him from walking onto campus? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

That's because you don't pay attention. Really? I'm not paying attention? Then can you please tell us where you answered the questions I've posed to your four times now? So have you answered and I'm not paying attention? Or are you full of shit? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Cho is a good example. Why would YOU have wanted him to be able to buy a gun with no difficulty? He didn't ask for an example; he asked for a definition. If the best you can do is point them out by their actions, then you have no way of preventing them from getting guns. If they're not crazy until they shoot people, then how do you stop crazies from getting guns? (without banning everyone from getting them, that is) So we're still waiting. Do you have anything to say about a definition? Can you post one, or post a link to a thread where you already have? Or are you going to claim I'm not paying attention when it looks like you still haven't answered. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Are you under the impression that the investigation and trial are happening because of the published photos? They are not. The Army investigated, arrested, confined the suspect long before the pictures got out, and it is currently putting them through the courts (one guilty plea, the others are scheduled for trial unless they plea). So, again, what exactly do you want them to have done differently? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Turn on the afterburners. Rephrase: does anyone know what president Obama's exit strategy and time table are for Libya? Ps - come on professor, you know the difference between tactics and strategy. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Still haven't heard from you, but you've pooped back into the thread. So, whether you missed the posts (looking less likely with each failure to respond) or you are intentionally ignoring them, I thought I'd try one more time. Cho is a good example. Why would YOU have wanted him to be able to buy a gun with no difficulty? He didn't ask for an example; he asked for a definition. If the best you can do is point them out by their actions, then you have no way of preventing them from getting guns. If they're not crazy until they shoot people, then how do you stop crazies from getting guns? (without banning everyone from getting them, that is) Anything to say about a definition? Also, I'm still trying to figure out where you stand, since you can't or won't link to a post or thread where you've clearly stated your position on individual gun rights. So what do you think about requiring registration of all firearms? What do you think about storage requirements of private firearms kept on private property? What do you think about limiting magazine capacity? What do you think about private ownership of handguns? What do you think about private ownership of military styled semi-auto rifles? What do you think about private ownership of select-fire or full-auto firearms? What do you think about concealed carry? Should it be banned, licensed, or unlicensed? What do you think about open carry of firearms? Should it be banned, licensed, or unlicensed? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

You mean like Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, Samantha Power, and Barack Obama? Damn those chickenshits chickenhawks! [/hijacking my own thread] witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Congratulations on your one millionth alternut rant. So, how many people took part in this day of rage in forty cities? And why bitch about businesses doing what's legal. Go after the legislators making the laws. By the way, what percent of citizens don't pay federal taxes? witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*

Federal agency recognizes pot for medical use Written by: David Ferguson witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1*