Darius11

Hey I have a great idea you can move to iraq and cheer them up by telling them how embarrssed you are to be an american who lives free and can express yourself without fear of reprisal. Yea man how dare you question anything or say anything that makes the US look bad. We are perfect and if we have faults we shouldn't talk about it EVER. Oh wait that’s a dictatorship. Lately I keep getting the two mixed up. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Oh hell yea I am putting on my suicide vest right now. Can all of the guys on the list meet somewhere I can only do this once. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

OMG how dare you say such a thing only a scum bag piece of shit trader ass hole would say such a …………………………………..Oh my mistake I thought you were talking about US troops now that I know it’s about Muslims it’s ok Sorry about that. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

You apparently have not the first idea what a systematically planned and executed genocide of 6 Mio people means. Cheers, T I mentioned before that I was not comparing the crimes in magnitude but as in some of the methods used. But I see no one can say any of my comparisons are wrong they just call me anti-Semitic and try to change the focus and make me look like a raciest. Whatever I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

man my boss pissed me off today and embarresed me in a meeting. Since I can't get back at him officially, I'm gonna go kill his children. With a bomb. Its the only method I have. That ok with you darius? I'm done with this thread. too many lies and bs just pisses me off. Wow so embarrassment in front of your coworkers is the same as having your children murdered, your house destroyed and so on. You must really love your job. And if you see BS or any misinformation point them out you will do all of us good, but then again you love your work so much I am sure your too busy LOL Darius please go join the Jihad will ya? I mean sending your money and making excuses simply isn't enough!!! As soon as you join some redneck militant group I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

man my boss pissed me off today and embarresed me in a meeting. Since I can't get back at him officially, I'm gonna go kill his children. With a bomb. Its the only method I have. That ok with you darius? I'm done with this thread. too many lies and bs just pisses me off. Wow so embarrassment in front of your coworkers is the same as having your children murdered, your house destroyed and so on. You must really love your job. And if you see BS or any misinformation point them out you will do all of us good, but then again you love your work so much I am sure your too busy LOL I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

The whole discussion on why people decide to kill them selves for a cause they believe in is along one witch I will not get in to now but have before many times. I don’t claim to know what ifs, I agree with you that if the Palestinians had a good life they would not be so willing to risk it with violence and what was stolen from them might not seem as much. Poverty always breeds violence and corruption. All extremists result to violence. Catholics kill doctors that perform abortions, PETA members throw blood at people’s faces that ware fur coats, and an Israeli kills 24 Muslims inside there holy masque. It is not the nature of just Muslims extremists it is the nature of all extremists. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

No one is blaming Israel for poverty the poverty happens because of the corrupt government that run the countries. I blame Israeli for the inhuman way it has treated the Palestinians. As for my post above yours that was a replay to what Falxori said here but let me guess your one sided view didn't see that did it. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

We can go back 2500 years where almost all of the Middle East belonged to Iran I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I think your right. It doesn’t show Muslims in a great light at all. And personally I wouldn’t care what is printed as a Joke or whatever. As I said before in another thread IMHO the best reaction would have been no reaction at all. Who cares what anyone thinks or says about your beliefs when it comes down to it is your beliefs, and if your fait is strong you should not worry about small things that don’t even matter. I think it is absolutely stupid to show such a violent reaction to just a fucking drawing. The only thing I tell my self is that maybe it is because of the times, and Muslims feel the whole world is against them. I also think that most Muslims feel that their beliefs are not taken seriously. There is also a feeling that no is there to fight for them. Most Islamic countries have the worst governments you can imagine. That is also another reason why so many find leadership elsewhere. But all that aside it is still the worst possible reaction you can have. They are just drawings. We Muslims need to pick our fights and a drawing is defiantly not a fight I would have picked. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I wish I had the answer. I think that’s the main issue no one has the answer. Many times I have thought removing all boarders would be a good solution. I think if the average Israeli and the average Palestinian were given equal opportunity to have a life they would get along. One thing I am sure of. People who are allowed to have lives and have hope tend to not like violence and war. We all want the same thing no matter what country or religion we are from. We want a chance to have a productive life, we want safety, and we want the same for our children. There is a lot that goes in to that but that’s the basics. I think the Israelis need to be more open and less hateful. They also need to realize they are living on land that was not theirs 58 years ago. It is land that they took. The Palestinians need to realize no mater right or wrong Israel is not going anywhere. No matter how they got the land they have it now. They need to have a strong and honest government that can control any out laws. Then they need help to boost the standard of living for all of their citizens. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Really? I don't know him to say he is or not. I just try to post quotes from people who are not related to any Arab media as any thing they would say would be scrutinized. But since you are so sure was he fired for his lies or is there any proof that he is a liar? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

was this an excuse as well? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Again who do you blame? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

There are many reasons why the peace talks have failed. You can't only blame the Palestinians I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

yea dude i know my writing skills suck the big one I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

Israel might have the physical capability to destroy everyone but they know the world would not stand for an all out mascara. Right now most of the world is on Israeli side and the Israeli government is very smart (not honest) but smart they know what to say and not to say. I remember a few years ago when the Israeli bombers killed 9 children knowing they would kill inocent people in the area. At first Sharon said it was collateral damage and he was happy with the operation. Only after the world showed outrage of his comments he retracted his previous statement. However that doesn’t make his 2nd statement true. How do you suggest they fight back with the capabilities they have? Considering their enemy has killed inocent Palestinians many times. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

There is something we agree on. It is a land dispute and should have been solved as such. I never mentioned Jews I always say Israelis. There is no way I would view people of the Jewish fait like I view the Israeli government. I also make it a point so people know I am specking ONLY of the Israeli government and as mentioned above I could give a fuck what religion they are. The Palestinian method is the only method they have. They target civilians as the Israeli government and military is very good at protecting them selves. I bet if they were capable of hitting the military they would. However I agree that killing civilians is not a good options. I apologize if it sounds like I am comparing the Holocaust to what the Israeli government does as an exact comparison. I did not intend to say they are the same magnitude. I meant to say that the Israeli government is guilty of some of the crimes that was done against them in WWII by the nazies. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

So in your point of view kicking people out of their land then killing them is ok? What ever the agenda is for killing Muslims you are still targeting people biased on there religion and race. You know what we have been down this road many times. I am just going stop. I just hope we find peace somehow some way if that is even possible. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

When you punch someone can you blaim them for punching back? Can you explain what jews have to do with the currently fatwah being issues on the heads of Danish people/journalists? How do jews tie into this? Is it because all jews control all the media, everywhere? Or is it because, like Mohamed, a figure who can't be proved, the Holocause likewise cannot be proven to have happened, so seeing as they are both ficticious, they can be ridiculed together? Which is it, i'm curious to know? I am not for making fun of the holocaust, as I see nothing funny about it. All I am trying to point out is this. That the Danish reporters did something offensive and now the Iranian media is trying to do something equally as offensive. I see both actions as offensive but I do realize that the 2nd offence would not have occurred if the first offence (punch) had not occurred. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I know that the holocaust was a horrible and evil event in history and I pray it will never happen again to anyone. But that doesn’t change my comparisons? Do the Israelis treat Muslims differently then Jews? And not just now go back 10-20-30 years and tell me I am wrong. How many Palestinians children have been killed by Israelis fighters solders, and on and on? How many homes have been bulldozed? What kind of job opportunities do Muslims get in Israel? It is easy to call me an anti-Semitic but I know I am not. I also will not deny the facts just because it is the thing to do now. Again if I am wrong on any of my comparisons you show me with facts. And if you like I point to many diaries that were written by Christian reporters on how the Palestinians get treated daily. The whole point is if the Muslims world has a problem with Israel they have valid reasons. I don’t see any of them making fun of Moses, as he is our profit as well. However what did the Muslim world do to the Danish? They probably sell most of there fetha cheese to the Middle East I didn’t now that was a crime. It is too much that no one sees how the Palestinians are treated mainly thanks to the Media. They aren’t genetically crazy as the Media and others would like everyone to believe. They have been treated like shit to put it nicely for more then 50 years. People need to see thing threw there eyes once in a while as well. I have enjoyed are discussions in the past and you have always been able to argue with me by stating facts. Even if we do not agree on them all. I don't hate I just want people to see both views. There are many that offer the Israeli side. I am mostly alone in trying to show the Palestinians side. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

I have to say I am not surprised it seems if you say anything no matter how true of the Israeli government you are an anti-Semitic. How about other then giving me some BS answer look at my list and tell if any ANY of them are wrong? If you find any I will gladly post news article from major new groups? I don’t BS anyone, or have anything against Jews. But being Israeli does not exempt you from following basic human rights. Even my comparisons are correct. But usually when people can’t come back with facts they call you a racist. I always make sure to point to the Israelis and couldn’t give a fuck what there religion is. I see them as the murderers they are. Sorry you’re blinded. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

When you punch someone can you blaim them for punching back? I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

How many Denish people are treated like shit daily or killed by Muslims? How many of their homes have been bulldozed by the Muslims? How many Danish children have been killed because a Muslim president decided there lives have no value? Now change the names around from Danish to Palestinians Muslims and change Muslims to Israeli I acutely think the Nazis are a great comparison to the Israelis. They both treated people of different fait as 2nd class citizens. They both killed indiscriminately the one of different fait. They both have more power and guns then the people they treat as 2nd class citizens. They also stole there homes You can’t see the difference? That basically Somme’s up how I feel about it. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

And they hate us because we scarifies there lives, and prosperity so we can have a more toys. If you can not understand there distrust of the US now when it is so obvious how can I mention the doings of the past. We invaded a country because we felt like it we used the Excuse of WMD no matter what the Inspectors said. If I were Iran I would be trying to get nuks and whatever else I could get my hand on. When the world leader uses bully tactics the only way to deal with it is by pushing back. I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain