kelpdiver

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  1. Uh, no. You can't take the rate from the straightforward cases and just apply it to the less clear cases. These aren't randomly distributed sets. It looks highly improbable that we will ever have sufficient evidence to make a definitive decision re the Ferguson shooting. Or any other case where one lives, the other dies, and no video/audio evidence exists.
  2. It's highly unlikely the grand jury will return a finding that the action was justified. Their job is to determine if there is sufficient evidence to charge the shooter with a crime.
  3. He certainly does count. But he's one vote. How many total cases like this will we see? A solution to protect him that disenfranchises 10,000 others in New Mexico is not an improvement. Come up with a better solution. IBX: making IDs freely available could address the concerns. Having the census workers also register people could be an avenue in 2020. But if that is done by not worrying about the lack of documentation for people, then we'll see a very different set of complainers about giving votes to illegal aliens. and let's not lose sight of the frank comments from GOP insiders as to their real intent. They don't give a fuck about this guy in Rio Arriba.
  4. Irony alert. Also thanks for not addressing a single aspect of my rebuttal. I can tell you'd rather keep the arguments emotional rather than factual. Maybe that experience isn't very meaningful in understanding the rest of the country? Though 5 major incidents - somehow I've had none, myself.
  5. Not to me. The use of force was justified, but what we saw was well in excess. As I recall at the time, the video prompted many departments to consider buying clear plastic batons that wouldn't show on video as well.
  6. Wait one fucking moment. The cops killed 300, per you. (Even though no one actually knows the correct number - it was at least that 300) Not 20. You don't get to filter it down to the ones that didn't lead to a prosecution, particularly when LEOs don't get the same scrutiny that one George Zimmerman got (and we spent thousands of posts discussing, for this SINGLE event). And you're going to count assisted suicide against doctors, but not against cops for suicide-by-cop incidents? More dirty pool. Same with citing the abortion drug causing miscarriage as having anything to do with pharmacists. Your other citation is a doctor giving drugs to healthy people - they did not die, though clearly not good for them. So are you white? Minorities might tell a different story than you. But even that aside, I had an officer come over to my aunt's house and tell her how I beat up some lady in a road rage incident. Based on what? Who can tell - the suspect was in a brown BMW sedan and the closest thing to that I own was a BMW motorcycle. (and a red subaru) Sloppy police work coupled with poor judgement. Good thing I wasn't black or he'd might have ordered the dawn raid on the house. If you want to debate this seriously, cut out this sort of nonsense already.
  7. And yet, none of these are actually true. Doctors do not intentionally kill their patients, but they deal with the sick, who don't always have obvious causes and the patients don't always give good information, or abide by recommendations. Likewise, pharmacists aren't trying to kill customers by giving them the wrong drug or ones that interact poorly with other drugs. Road designers make best compromise between competing factors (speed, capacity, cost vs safety). I'm not going to blame them for failing to prevent sloppy drivers from killing themselves. But when those cops beat Rodney King, when that cop elected to taser or shoot Oscar Grant in the back when he was on the ground cuffed, when they beat up people who film them beating up other suspects, when they hang a suspect in jail and claim suicide, etc....these are ACTIVE decisions they made. I'm not even addresses the situations where they have to make a judgment call that inevitably sides with "use taser or beat suspect." In the Ferguson case, there has been too much conflicting information and enough reason to believe at least the initial firings were justified, and to exonerrate the officer. I'm having a harder time with the subsequent firings and suspect that it's good for the LEO that there weren't working cameras. I have no problem concluding that there is no valid reason that we don't uniformly collect the information on every justified LEO shooting in the country. I can think of many bad, self serving reasons for it. Transparency leads to trust, and the police departments show a strong disinterest in going that route. Far more interested in trying to make it illegal for them to be filmed/recorded.
  8. If you live in bible country and there aren't a lot of sushi eaters, I wouldn't eat it there either. You need that fish to keep moving in and out of inventory, or it gets a bit funky.
  9. They do that for work. Posting here is a recreational activity. Sally forth.
  10. Posting like this - "It's really not that big a deal" - are part of the problem. And then we see the other excuse - the community won't cooperate. Of course they won't - the cops were part of the institutions that kept them in the gutter for decades. Again - we don't even keep statistics on the subject of shootings. And let's not pretend the problem stops there....criminal or excessive action by LEOs is far great than 100/year.
  11. Love the lead paragraph...no need to worry about objectivity. "Voter fraud is all over the place. Democrats are all over cheating like white on rice in a glass of milk on a paper plate in a snowstorm." It got even funnier a couple paragraphs later where it writes that the Washington Post exposed voter fraud, but the hyperlink is actually to a Washington Times story. Which is the equivalent of citing Einstein, but actually quoting Ted Cruz. The writer himself acknowledges that the video 'evidence' looks like simply a case of the guy touching the screen a bit high, but then simply says "Drudge is convinced it's real, so it must be." Touch screen calibration is hardly a new problem - I see it with ATMs, Redbox kiosks, etc. If you go to vote and it refuses to work for you, complain. Get it right. If you accept it picking the wrong candidate and just leave, you're the problem. Personally, any electronic voting system that doesn't give you a paper receipt (and better yet, a means to verify it after election night) is open to fraud. It was 10 years ago that there was great suspicion of lousy/corrupt Diebold machines giving Bush Ohio. If the code isn't open source and there's no way to validate your vote, you cannot eliminate the concern.
  12. This looks like a nice catch-22. Sure, you can fuck anyone you want, just so long as you're married. Oh, btw, you can only marry someone of the opposite sex. (time to go upstairs and have unmarried sex with my gf as a show of support)
  13. Being an attorney doesn't force him to defend gay rights. Now if he were a government official (AG, Justice Dept) and he was correctly fulfilling his oath the defend the Constitution, then yes, he should be doing that. But since I'm fairly sure he's in private practice, he does it because he believes in said guaranteed rights. Your statement subtly suggests he might be arguing a stance he doesn't personally believe.
  14. That presumption came from decades of bad police work. This particular incident, and certainly the police actions in the aftermath, do little to change that. As does the fact that we don't even know accurately how many citizens are shot dead by LEOs each year in our country.
  15. Wendy - no question that several Christian sects have embraced the gay community. But I only need to look back to the passage of Prop 8 in California just a few years ago - it passed on the efforts of clergy across dominations. And like in most of the 30+ states, it took the court to change the law. We know the Mormons are decided opposed and spending a ton of money against gay rights. The Catholics remain in that camp, though there's great hope with this new Pope. The Protestants run the gambit from ones like your's, to ones that are decidedly not.
  16. So long as Church leadership continues to insist gay marriage, gay life period, is wrong, it's quite fair to generalize Christians in this way. Now if a majority of the parishioners no longer agree, then they should be changing their leadership.
  17. oh, my! Potential recruits getting alcohol and being shown co-eds in a SELF REPORTED incident that involved 23 being punished. This is on par with the Chicago charity that was pouring beers shots on the marathon 3 weeks ago. The service academies are back of the pack when it comes to Div I athletics. Blue Chip recruits are not going there.
  18. However, you can bet those securities workers put in considerably longer workweeks than the 40 assumed for the minimum wage workers.
  19. I think you did a slight disservice to the thread in missing the sentence he wrote just before this statement. It gives some direct explanation to the proud statement. His writing this may have been promoted by fatigue over reading/hearing vague questions on the topic that is really irrelevant to his stewardship of Apple.
  20. There are even people proud to be from Delaware.
  21. And yet, historically gays have stayed in the closet - mostly to avoid persecution but also because others would be ashamed of them. Straights don't hide their orientation. This leads to a black and white state - either you're proud to come out, or you're ashamed and hiding it. Tim Cook is asserting the first.
  22. so basically a right wing Michael Moore. His cameras only show the truth too, of course.
  23. For the countries are basically being walled off until it dies out, it is killing their economies and their ability to easily get help for the usual problems (hiv, malaria, and the other fun mosquito diseases).
  24. the funny thing here is looking at the US arrests for the entire population. http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/persons-arrested/persons-arrested 12.2 million arrests in 2012 / 320M people x 100,000 (the same formula used in the article ) = 3812, or 54% higher than the 2466 high they cited for football players. And if we examined black arrest rates, that national average is much higher. The DUI rate for the players, otoh, does seem disproportionately higher than the national average.
  25. The facebook nutsphere is lighting up with stories that Hickox is a CDC plant to kill any quarantine programs in NY/NJ as part of a CDC/Obama plot to infect America with Ebola. Nutty as all fuck, but most interesting is a claim that she has scrubbed from her linkedin data any references to her involvement with the CDC. Couple that with the annual 'flu vaccines are killing you' stories. Facebook has made crappy email chain mail even easier to spread about.