kelpdiver

you know it's rude to interrupt in the middle of a conversation. But hey, let's open up a thread about your purported illegal gun purchases in the US too. Otherwise, you're free to participate or not in this one. So those are your A/B choices? You seem a bit confused though - that girl did not kill the instructor with the uzi - that was all his doing. It is quite possible, and millions have done so, to teach a 9yo to shoot without watching them walk around with a loaded weapon. Even you'd be capable of such parenting.

If you think about it for a minute you may realize the utter bullshit of your argument. This is about young people dying due to guns. You want to draw an arbitrary age line where it's all of sudden no longer tragic to die by firearm. So where is the lie by saying 7 children and teens die every day? WHERE IS THE LIE? Are nineteen year olds not teens? Just tell us why the title of the piece isn't "6 young adults and 1 children die every day from guns?" That would be much more accurate, but doesn't get the same emotional reaction. (If you want to be extremely accurate and can separate the data, it would become 4 young adults, 2 older teens, and 1 child." That's the lie, and you're repeating it as quickly as you can. No question the US system has a vengeance element. But I asked you specifically about German's free wheeling alcohol strategy, not to rehash your ax about America. If you don't believe teens are mature, then why the fuck are you giving them beer, a substance known world wide to cause problems with judgment? Are 19yo DUIs coddled? Or ones that start beating up minorities outside of a bar?

I did, I chose to ignore it because it's simply irrelevant. Not irrelevant, just inconvenient to the deliberate lie that you want to promote. Having a hard time understanding how Germany would treat 20 year olds as immature children, yet give them free access to alcohol at 16.

It's my understanding that ebola isn't contagious until symptoms are presented. And I don't recall seeing anything that suggested that she had reason to believe that her on the job safety precautions were ineffective. Hindsight is 20/20. (corrected your emphasis) A fever would be a symptom, and you have to cross 99.5 to make that short progression to 100. The fact that her colleague was sick is a pretty fucking obvious reason to suspect the handling methods were ineffective. I think it was a bit shady to visit her family in the first place, but I have a very difficult time with the decision to return. The CDC can't seem to keep their story straight either.

99.5 is high normal. Couple that with the recent history and the diagnosis of her colleague and it is hardly reasonable to presume all is normal.

No, I'm saying that Germany considers 16-20 year olds as more adult than we do.

True in Africa as well, where malaria and AIDS kill far more people. But "news" by definition is not about the status quo.

A million Africans do die from AIDS each year.

Which is fairly irrelevant to the topic. That 85% are fairly clearly on or near the adult side of the line - from my personal experience Germany would sell beer to nearly all of them. If you trust them with alcohol, clearly you view them as having a level of maturity. Note that we do not and have a drinking age of 21. Did you really not understand Champu's heart disease (600k) and lightning strikes (50) remark, or did you choose to ignore it?

he didn't fly to the treatments centers in the US, he flew home. they have direct flights to treatment centers???? Yes, as you wrote in the cited text above. Did you forget?

This allowed me to buy another block of shares of Nestle at a panic driven 5% discount.

he didn't fly to the treatments centers in the US, he flew home.

As soon as you tell us the same for the second amendment You over and over have stated that rights are not absolute You do not care if those wanting to exercise their second amendment rights are disenfranchised because of limits put in place by some bureaucratic rules and processes So fuck it dude Your hypocritical stance on rights is out there for all to see You'd have a harder time trying that approach against me or several others that have pointed out the obvious result and intent of these voter id laws.

The emphasis is on eightTEEN and nineTEEN. A nineTEEN year old is still a TEENager. But in a country where 10 year olds are tried as adults the difference seems to be semantics. You're muddling up your talking points now. Either you want to continue with the intentional lies that older teens are children (when quite a few are in fact adults), or you want to make hay with the prosecution of some very young people as adults. But since we already established that 85% of this 7/day are 15-19yos, you can't straddle both. It wasn't that long ago that they tried to stretch children to go all the way up to 23, because metrics were collected for the 14-23 cohort and they wanted to inflate the distortion even further. That was a pretty hard lie to maintain, so now they're just shoveling a little less bullshit. Apparently you're fine with playing that game, too.

No it isn't. Not all suicide is a thoroughly planned event. Taking away an easy tool may indeed prevent a suicide. There is no way to state that all gun suicides would take place without guns. But since, as shown by this propaganda piece, the majority of suicides by youths are by non gun methods (60%), it's evident that they're quite capable of finding other methods. A higher level of proof, IMO, is needed to show that the guns are the reason they killed themselves.

Did that author take lessons from some of our SC posters? You can't get ebola, or the possibility exists? I see the immediate neighbors at potential risk, along with the flight attendants. Sneeze onto napkin, hand to attendant. Obviously the FA would be the worst case scenario - I suspect they'll all be grounded for the next month thanks to the nurse.

Yes, the risk is low. And yet, if I had just spent many days treating one of the few active cases in the country, I'd be disinclined to go visit my friends and family. And the day after the other primary nurse became symptomatic and my temperature seemed slightly elevated, I would not get on a public plane.

For about 12 percent of eligible voters who do not have a driver's license, the commission says states should provide at no cost an identification card that contains the same key information. Still, the proposed ID card drew sharp dissent from some commissioners, among them former Senate Democratic leader Thomas A. Daschle (S.D.). In a dissent joined by two other commissioners, Daschle likened the ID to a "modern day poll tax." -- So no, even they didn't quite all agree, because they know simply saying make it free and easy to get doesn't mean it will be successful.

I bet her F&F love her right now.

My grandmother died at 82 years old having never driven a car in her life. She grew up in NYC. I know dozens of New Yorkers that never got a drivers license. There is just no reason to. that can work in NYC 8.4M people live in NYC. Tell us again how many fraudulent votes were cast in 2012? I know it's an imprecise number, but I know it's not measured in the thousands, let alone millions. Why do you and CFVD hate democracy so much?

You have yet to do this, and in each case admitted there are workarounds. You've also missed the most common and obvious way Americans survive without ID: THEY LIVE WITH OTHER PEOPLE WHO TAKE CARE OF THESE MATTERS. So why should they be prevented from voting, is the question we wish you would answer.

you show it right here - "Im not saying there IS ABSOLUTELY no way to do these things." So stop arguing with yourself, FFS. If you don't even believe your bullshit claims, just admit it and find some new way to try to defend the disenfranchisement of so many to prevent a non existent problem.

Page 6- of that 7/day, 61% were homicides (largely gang members shooting each other - and yes, they do need to take personal responsibility when they choose to become criminals), and 32% more were suicides. The remaining 5% (150) were the tragic accidental shootings, but that number sounds pretty lame next to the number killed in car accidents and pools. If you go to page 9, you finally see them admit that 85% of these 2703 deaths were older teens aged 15-19, so the claim that 7 childen and teens die each day is a fairly blatant distortion.

Can we put this nonsense to bed, already? I did several of these without ID (I had been out of the country and removed my driver's license from my wallet, didn't reinsert for 2 weeks) I know someone's actual example didn't phase you, so no doubt this won't register either. http://www.fairelectionsnetwork.com/blog/true-or-false-you-need-photo-id As for why your points on absentee ballots are irrelevant - no one has tried to argue that you can or cannot get mail in ballots without an original ID (thought I'm pretty sure you're wrong again), but rather are pointing out that any election day policies that check for ID at the polling stations will do nothing to protect the sanctity of the 50% of votes that mailed in. It's about as effective as a shark cage that covers 2 of the 4 sides.

it also correlates with temperature. Hot makes people mad.