kelpdiver

When I hear people (and particular legislators) crap on athletics as an institution, it's pretty unlikely that sports are a part of their lifestyle, past or present. They dwell on the negatives while ignoring the rest.

If Patreus hadn't run the Olympics on carbon fiber legs, I doubt the world would have followed the murder trial. NFL and NBA transgressions get more press than any other sport here. In Europe that would probably be the leaders for the teams in the Premiere League.

Of course that's obvious. What are you even talking about? You were attacking my post talking about this obviousness, so it wasn't obvious that you agreed.

Aside from the newness factor, people are afraid of it because they feel they can't protect themselves from it. It cannot be seen, and anyone riding the subways in a major city comes across slime and puddles and other ickiness. (The Underground is a step up from NY or Chicago or SF). People can take measures to stay away from homicidal types. If you're not a criminal, the risk, despite there being more guns than people in the US, is quite low. People will even take unnecessary moves based on perceived threats. But "don't worry" and "wash your hands" is not comforting, not when it has a mortality rate between 30-70%. And since you want to pretend it's not obvious - no one involuntarily catches homicidal urges from another. A doctor might choose to commit violence, but they made that choice.

Not so fast. He stated that 2+2=4 isn't science. Not that mathematics is not a science. That's what we call a straw man. As I already said, picking a statement that is defined by the number system is no more meaningful than a stating that the klingon word for two is cha'.

There just aren't enough coaching and marketing and management jobs for all of them. And bear in mind that the programs for many (particularly physical therapy) are quite rigorous, so if we're starting with the standpoint that these guys are academic lightweights, the solution isn't to be found here. There's also something a bit unsettling (not speaking to DJL here) about the presumption that these guys are too fucking stupid to be at college. Russell White was a rather controversial special admit at Cal around 1990 - he didn't meet the requirements but was a top tier running back. Upon coming to school he was diagnosed as dyslexic, got some assistance in adapting to this, and graduated on time (either 4 or 5 years). Many of these players do take advantage of the opportunity, and some of those who leave early to go pro (no rational reason to turn down millions) return after their playing days to complete the degree. Some do it during their offseasons. It's more productive to encourage this than to generalize based on the actions of the corrupt.

Which was exactly why I made my post. Since kelpdiver tried to deminish an opinion since he labelled it as emotional as opposed to rational. And no there isn't just a remote connection between the two. Other than those with disorders resulting in having no affective feelings, no human has been able to make rational decisions without emotion playing a role. What we really have is SD trying to disagree with me, but he had to force a fairly asinine argument that still doesn't make sense. Apply this nonsense to the scientific method and tell me how it works out.

Oh, you probably should have specifically spoken of it then, because in the last post you didn't. "doctor or nurse that cared for a gunshot victim" is pretty clear. Currently, yes. We're still on the clock to see if there will be any level 3 infections from the current cases. In large part because of (to date) limited opportunity and fierce responses. But if we write it off as a non issue, then we could find ourselves in a different world*. We used to put two patients in most hospital rooms to save costs. Now new hospitals are nearly always singles because of the scourge of MRSA. * because of the fast flame nature of Ebola, I don't really fear it either. But I also don't fear "assault weapons."

basketball is probably the worst offender for this sort of problem because the best potential stars only play a single year in college. So they only need to be eligible thru March, meaning one semester or two quarters. It's pretty easy to get them enough credits to stay so. This doesn't work in football where the NFL won't draft anyone prior to their junior year, so they need to make it 2.5 or 3.5 (if they redshirt) years. The NFL's polilcy was challenge but upheld by the courts thus far. It would be an improvement if the NBA followed, or if they created a developmental league for the top high school players, much like baseball's minor leagues. I also believe that scholarships should be guaranteed 5 year contracts, so that coaches can't retaliate against players who insist on taking real classes. Nor can a newly hired coach yank the scholarships for players recruited by the prior regime.

How about this guy? Now you let us know the first time a nurse or doctor in the US gives their family ebola. I missed the part where he contracted his homicidal urges from a patient, which was the specific aspect I spoke of. Here you have a basic wedding day pre-nup debate go bad. Spouses have been killing each other over money since money existed.

Emotional responses rarely generate useful solutions to problems, just as reading the Bible rarely does.

Tell us the next time (first time) a doctor or nurse that cared for a gunshot victim picks up an AR15 and shoots their family. While the CDC has attempted to frame gun violence as an epidemic, it has nothing on real pathogens.

Your subject header is "I hate college athletics." Sounds like an emotional rather than rational stance.

Even for Div I football, the vast majority do not make it to the next level. There are approximately 10k young men on scholarship and each year the NFL drafts 224 and invites another couple hundred to training camp. Multiply x 5 years and that's generously 20some percent who get to try out for an NFL team with an average career of 3 years. The odds are much worse for basketball, which has far more Div I schools but only 64 are drafted each year.

The tigers are getting that much meat? There was a well publicized event at the San Francisco zoo a few years ago when a few drunk idiots harassed the tigers and one demonstrated that the walls weren't tall enough, killed one and mauled the other two. Sadly, it was killed, and it killed the least offending of the 3. The other two got a pretty nice payout, but proceeded to litter the news with felony arrests every 12 months. In any event, that's the only fatality I knew about in the US.

True - these guys, along with the petition signature gatherers, are salesman who get paid everytime they can get someone to sign their name. "The authorities will sort out the bad ones."

If they registered, it seems like a reasonable expectation. But if they just checked a box on a DMV form that added voter registration, perhaps not. The check the state did should probably be done at the time of registration rather than on an adhoc basis. Computers are very capable of this.

This seems timely: Fox News Hosts urge young women not to vote, not serve on juries. Go back to Tinder and match.com. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/22/fox-news-young-women-voters-kimberly-guilfoyle-midterm-election_n_6028054.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

you realize you listed a number of banana republics and one first world nation? Do you really want us to follow Haiti's example on ANYTHING?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/22/Ineligible-DACA-Beneficiaries-Discovered-On-NC-Voting-Rolls Why the the first first paragraph say they were ineligible, while the second paragraph twice says they may be ineligible? Did you read the second one?

Thank god....after seeing a bunch of really really stupid posts by pencil neck geeks, it was great to see you (and Don) take them to task for generalizing the Div I money sports as the universal norm. 2 of the 32 2014 Rhode Scholars from the US are Div I athletes. Given how few there are, that's a over-representation. Kallend, why is academic fraud worse when it's done for athletics, rather than for money or for sex? The NCAA penalties for this are quite severe and easily reported, unlike the other two.

sort of - because 2+2 is closer to a tautology. It is a part of the definition of the base 10 counting system. Now if you had wrote 1+1=2, I could have replied that it really is 1+1=10 to more entities on earth than humans. And avoiding the nicpicks (you responding to Champu rather than me), science != truth. That's as religious an argument as the ones you're trying to decry.

Sorry, science is not always right, and your quote marks and a loose description of the scientific method isn't enough to make that statement true. Science can be wrong for long periods of time, even without the affects of religious or government authority. It was only in the 80s that we finally figured out that most ulcers are caused by H. pylori rather than stress. Nutritional science is challenging economics for vagueness and untruths these days. So long as scientists present their best guesses given data as truths (and plenty do this), let's embrace the scientific model for what it is, rather than call it 'right.'

Only Russia has a chance at catching up with them.

And if he had had a few pints and wrapped his car around a post on the autobahn, he wouldn't be curable either. So forgive me if I missed an intelligent argument here. Alcohol causes far more 'accidental' deaths than guns, and if we bring in suicides it still leads.