RonD1120

I know there is no way you can comprehend what I am about to tell you, AEB your long standing opposition to me. However, there is a difference between my personal faith in God through Jesus the Christ and my social/political values. I have attempted to explain that on many occasions. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I believe President Jimmy Carter is a good man and he professees to be a Christian. Only God knows the heart and quality of a good Christian. The Bible says that to be a Christian you have to believe in faith that 1) Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; 2) Jesus died on the cross as the propitiation of all sin, for all peoples, for all time; 3) Jesus was resurrected from the dead and is available to all who call on Him for salvation. Then you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord you will be saved. That is it. That is the simple truth. The Bible also teaches that if a person proclaims they are a Christian we are to accept them as such. We are not to judge their level of faith, their walk or their behavior. We can only examine their fruit of the Holy Spirit and even that is risky. We are only to hold them in prayer. I thought that that was an excellent question, pertinent, material to the issues. Mr. Carter, IMO is exemplary of what a Christian is. Setting aside the merits of this presidency. Which had the misfortune of the energy crisis, Iran hostage, etc. As for Ron's answer, I think the Romans are off the road. https://bible.org/seriespage/lesson-10-judged-your-deeds-romans-26-11 This is a little out of my area but, I believe that John 5: 28,29 is referring to what is called The Great White Throne Judgment. That is the second judgment by God where unrepentant sinners are cast into hell for eternity. The first judgment comes when we meet Jesus the Christ face to face at death of the physical body. True believers are ushered into heaven at that time. I do not understand the theological differences between the two judgments. That one is for the scholars. I am a counselor only. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

My fear was that a communist trained socialist and community organizer would become POTUS. And, they came to fruition. And yet you fully support a con man, thief, liar and sexual predator who has sold out to the Russians. He was the only one who could beat Hillary. He has never been convicted on any of those alleged charges. Maybe he will, I doubt it. Meanwhile, there he is POTUS. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

And you claim to have been tracking him since the early 2000s? I guess that didn’t stretch to listening to anything he’s ever said, or reading anything he’s ever written. In other words, it’s dishonest bullshit. Obama has explicitly and unmistakeably spoken and written about his Christian faith on many, many occasions, easily verifiable with the simplest of google searches. If you have a shred of personal dignity and integrity you would go and change firm that on google then come back and apologise for everything you’ve ever said about him on the subject. Let’s see what happens, shall we? Ron does not have a shred of decency. He has only the shards of his faith. Amongst so many other absurd, ignorant and racist things he has written is this: That ignorant black was a lady with the name of Peggy Joseph. She was at Obama's victory rally. At that rally President Obama spoke of the need for inclusiveness, not paying off mortgages. Peggy Joseph, a mother and a nurse, was simply excited that an African-American President was offering the hope of equality. She did not say Obama was going to pay her mortgage. That was a red meat dog whistle from the right wing media. She said:" I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage." Maybe, just maybe Ron, someone who is in an oppressed group was thinking that now that the impossible has happened and a member of their oppressed group was now President of the United Staes of America that a fair shake might be coming. You know, like the hedge fund billionaires, Goldman Sachs exec's and Joe the Plumber were thinking when Trump was elected. jakee asked and I agree: it's time for an apology. Let me be perfectly clear. I am a Christian. I voted for Bush, McCain, Romney and Trump. I do not owe anyone an apology for my decisions. You may disagree and become angry, those are your choices. I understand we are on opposite sides of the fence. Something you posed in an earlier post got me thinking. Is your DZ in a predominantly white area? Are your jumpers predominantly middle class whites? Do they pay for services with welfare dollars? Does that make you a racist? I don't think so. Likewise, I am not a racist because I chose to live in the mountains among fellow Christians. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

My fear was that a communist trained socialist and community organizer would become POTUS. And, they came to fruition. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Did you ever pray to your God and ask him to give BHO strength and guidance? Or did you ask your God to remove him? Whenever the Holy Spirit leads me to pray for the president I always pray for wisdom and guidance for him. That did in fact include Obama. Now I pray the same for Trump as he shakes up the Washington cartel and seeks to drain the swamp. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Then why does this not apply to BHO? I believe it does. I do not know if he is a Christian. I have never actually heard him proclaim himself as a Christian. I know he honors Islam and he removed the National Prayer Breakfast. He betrayed to sanctity of marriage as described in the Bible. That is his fruit. He is still a progressive left wing liberal socialist and that earns him a solid place on my black list. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

i believe President Jimmy Carter is a good man and he professees to be a Christian. Only God knows the heart and quality of a good Christian. The Bible says that to be a Christian you have to believe in faith that 1) Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; 2) Jesus died on the cross as the propitiation of all sin, for all peoples, for all time; 3) Jesus was resurrected from the dead and is available to all who call on Him for salvation. Then you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart that Jesus is Lord you will be saved. That is it. That is the simple truth. The Bible also teaches that if a person proclaims they are a Christian we are to accept them as such. We are not to judge their level of faith, their walk or their behavior. We can only examine their fruit of the Holy Spirit and even that is risky. We are only to hold them in prayer. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Obama is a true Christian, and promotes Christian ideology. Trump is not, and does not. You know that. I disagree but it is of no consequence. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

It must have been a very fearful time for you. A black Muslim family in the White House. No wonder you love Trump so much. That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains. America definitely changed during the Obama administration. As a family, we have made plans for survival should the worst happen. We could not afford to move out of the country as some did but we have purchased land in remote areas where we can make a stand. That is, we have land for farming, hunting and fishing. Ron, I know you are not stupid; your writing alone proves that point. I also believe that you have a big heart when it comes to helping those you believe worthy. Certainly I believe your faith, as I've previously opined, precludes rationality sometimes. None of that would bother me if you didn't claim a right to foist it off on any unfortunate passersby or use it as a final point in a conversation. But the one thing you could do is be a little more honest on one point if no other. That is, please read what you have just now written and try to understand how it comes off as racist. And then own it. I don't see it. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57? Is it the same as believing that entrepreneurs do not build their businesses, the government does or, that believing that Islam is a religion of peace? Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks. For example, that the government would pay their mortgage payments, as was the case in FL. According to Bill Clinton in '08, he was the guy who would have been getting their coffee. Covfefe. Mexico will pay. Repeal ACA on the first day. My crowd was bigger than Obama's. Well, actually there's a whole long thread about Trump's mis-statements. The bottom line and the real point of truth is that all political candidates make stupid statements off the cuff. We only pay attention to the other guy's. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

It must have been a very fearful time for you. A black Muslim family in the White House. No wonder you love Trump so much. That was a factor, not the only one, in our decision to move to a Christian enclave in the north GA mountains. America definitely changed during the Obama administration. As a family, we have made plans for survival should the worst happen. We could not afford to move out of the country as some did but we have purchased land in remote areas where we can make a stand. That is, we have land for farming, hunting and fishing. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57? Is it the same as believing that entrepreneurs do not build their businesses, the government does or, that believing that Islam is a religion of peace? Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks. For example, that the government would pay their mortgage payments, as was the case in FL. According to Bill Clinton in '08, he was the guy who would have been getting their coffee. Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks. Well now, it'll be interesting to see how that works out for you. ??? I heard the woman proclaim that promise on the radio at the time. She was a black female and she truly believed it. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Yes, Ross Perot. Ross Perot who has for the last 18 years been a registered Republican. Not in 1992. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Is that like knowing there are 50 states not 57? Is it the same as believing that entrepreneurs do not build their businesses, the government does or, that believing that Islam is a religion of peace? Or what about promising ridiculous benefits to ignorant blacks. For example, that the government would pay their mortgage payments, as was the case in FL. According to Bill Clinton in '08, he was the guy who would have been getting their coffee. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Interesting but not accurate. I started paying attention to Obama in 2003 and had him pegged early on. I voted for McCain/Palin because I wanted to see Sarah Palin as our first female president succeeding John. Out of curiosity, do you still think that Palin would have made a good President? This was actually the election in which the scales tipped and I started voting for mostly Democrats as I had always voted Republican because of nation security and financial issues. I was otherwise gunning for McCain until we found out what she was about. Had she held the office it would have mostly likely been 2012-2016. Considering the events of that period, yes, I think she would have handled the job well. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Yes, Ross Perot. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Pretty impressive that you were tracking an Illinois state senator from across the country. I had no idea you were to politically informed. Any obscure state senators we should keep our eyes on these days? Only a local state representative, keep an eye on Matt Gurtler. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

And, she was more qualified than Obama. I am an Independent BTW. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Interesting but not accurate. I started paying attention to Obama in 2003 and had him pegged early on. I voted for McCain/Palin because I wanted to see Sarah Palin as our first female president succeeding John. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Do you REALLY believe that no-one loves the Bible more than Trump? Really? Yes or no? I don't have to believe it. It is not relevant to me in this situation. I voted for President Trump to beat Hillary. Translation: you KNOW he's a LIAR but you just don't care. I do not have any method for measuring someone's love for anything. Do you know of any such quantifying or qualifying tool? As I accurately stated, it is not a relevant question. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Good point. Must be a different reason you dislike Obama so much then....wonder what it is. My primary objection to Obama is his ideology. He was trained or at least strongly influenced by Islam and communism/socialism and motivated by an American church the promoted racial conflict. "God**** America," the Rev Jeremiah Wright. And, I believe he was a tool of George Soros. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Good point. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Do you REALLY believe that no-one loves the Bible more than Trump? Really? Yes or no? I don't have to believe it. It is not relevant to me in this situation. I voted for President Trump to beat Hillary. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

What??? If you fail on two fifths of the projects I give you, you're fired. That's not being a winner, it's being shit at your job. There is a difference between being salaried/wage earner and entrepreneur/investor. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.