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Romney's June fundraising outpaces Obama's Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney appears to be collecting more money from big donors than President Obama. June fundraising figures will be available later this month. http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0710/Romney-s-June-fundraising-outpaces-Obama-s Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

It works in all areas of life. Denial of sin provides comfort. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

So your religion has NOTHING to do with truth and everything to do with you feeling the way you want to feel. Well as long as you're okay with that... It is your life. I have to live with my emotions. The rest is just mind stuff. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I wonder why you think that those are mutually exclusive..... I have a low aptitude for the former. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

How about fat people -- or do you have to test them to make sure it's glandular, and not just plain old gluttony? Wendy P. Good one. I don't have an answer. Looking around the congregation I see some overweight folk but no obesity. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Very courageous of Mr. Chambers. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/07/us/a-leaders-renunciation-of-ex-gay-tenets-causes-a-schism.html?pagewanted=all I totally agree. There is no therapy for a behavior choice. If someone believes their actions are rationalized as good for them they will not change based on someone else's opinion. Similarly, there is no treatment for an Axis II diagnosis. I disagree with Chambers on this point: "“I believe that any sexual expression outside of heterosexual, monogamous marriage is sinful according to the Bible,” Mr. Chambers emphasized. “But we’ve been asking people with same-sex attractions to overcome something in a way that we don’t ask of anyone else,” he said, noting that Christians with other sins, whether heterosexual lust, pornography, pride or gluttony, do not receive the same blanket condemnations." Many churches abhor the latter behaviors mentioned. The church I am currently attending will not allow membership to a man because he smokes. He is welcome in attendance but not membership. I will work with this guy because he would like to quit but is having difficulty. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I read all this wonderful scientific stuff. It makes little to no sense to me for one major reason. It does not affect my life in a positive way that I am able to perceive. However, when I read my Bible and do my morning devotion I have guidance and positive thought for the day. Abstract knowledge vs. comfort or peace of mind, I choose the latter. I wonder what all these atheistic, scientific, mathematical, systems networking, programming geniuses do when they have marital problems, lose their jobs, find out their kids have a serious disease or some other crisis of health, family, employment or social interaction. I guess they have an app for that. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I am a country boy and I guess I expect too much from the city guys. Don't city mommas teach their kids how to read between the lines? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

No problem, I'm done. I made my point but I don't think it was grasped. But anyway, you won't see any further posts from me in that vein, here or elsewhere. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

That is the explanation I have heard over and over explaining how we and everything else got here. It may well be what you've heard, but it's not what has been said to you. That is exactly what is said. Show me. Again the responsibility for examples is on you. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Yes there is. No one does that. Yes they do. Who? Those whom you referenced. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

If you recall, you brushed off the guys that gave you sources and said you couldn't be bothered to red them. Maybe...but I bet they were being condescending tits, weren't they? And you lose that bet. What do I win?

That is the explanation I have heard over and over explaining how we and everything else got here. It may well be what you've heard, but it's not what has been said to you. That is exactly what is said. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Yes there is. No one does that. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Last week Walter E. Williams made an interesting observation. Namely, black people have endured through slavery and decades of the Jim Crow laws only to be undone by liberal welfare. http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/wew/ Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

The end result of anything is death. Drink water long enough - death. Breath long enough - death. Eat tofu long enough - death. You're going to die of something no matter what. I'm not saying alcoholism is a good thing, but to say death is the reason it's bad is specious. That is just the way medical science describes the disease. OK, I've been following along here, and I think this is where the two of you started talking about two different things. I don't think quade was ever arguing that alcoholism isn't a disease. I think his point was that the end result of life is death. You're going to die whether you stop drinking or not. I think a better argument for giving up drug abuse is that you might live longer, or perhaps have a better quality of life. Of course, that is the point. Quade just goes around in circles playing dumb to create frustration. Like I said, entertaining to a point. Then he becomes pointless. He just argues to be arguing. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

All I have here is Google. Or maybe you just see what you want to see. In my googling, this was the very first result. http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/alcoholism None of which, all from currently recognized medical dictionaries, define it as you do. Here is the first paragraph. C what U want to C. Alcoholism or alcohol dependence is defined by the American Medical Association (AMA) as "a primary, chronic disease with genetic, psychosocial, and environmental factors influencing its development and manifestations." I'm through. You just go round and round like so many others. It is really a waste of time when the entertainment value is gone. You sig line tells it like it is. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

All I have here is Google. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Your argument is that it is not a disease. I never made such a claim. Go ahead, scroll back and search for what you're claiming I said. Your claims are bullshit. Your post #1222: http://www.drug-addiction-help-online.com/alcoholism.html Alcoholism is a disease - a chronic, progressive, fatal disease if not treated. And that is still not the medical definition you claimed it was. Nor have you shown where I claimed it wasn't a disease as you claimed I did. 2 claims made by you. Both bullshit. You really are not a nice person. I'm OK with that because I don't expect that from you. You will not goad me to profanity on your level. http://www.step12.com/alcoholics-definition.html Medical Definition of Alcoholism . This comprehensive definition of Alcoholism was published by the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1992. This definition was prepared by the Joint Committee to Study the Definition and Criteria for the Diagnosis of Alcoholism of the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence and the American Society of Addiction Medicine. Approved by the Boards of Directors of the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence, Inc. (February 3, 1990) and the American Society of Addiction Medicine (February 25, 1990). Definition of Alcoholism -- published by the Journal of the American Medical Association " Alcoholism is a primary, chronic disease with genetic, psychosocial, and environmental factors influencing its development and manifestations. The disease is often progressive and fatal. It is characterized by continuous or periodic: impaired control over drinking, preoccupation with the drug alcohol, use of alcohol despite adverse consequences, and distortions in thinking, most notably denial ." Primary refers to the nature of alcoholism as a disease entity in addition to and separate from other pathophysiologic states which may be associated with it. Primary suggests that alcoholism, as an addiction, is not a symptom of an underlying disease state. Disease means an involuntary disability. It represents the sum of the abnormal phenomena displayed by a group of individuals. These phenomena are associated with a specified common set of characteristics by which these individuals differ from the norm, and which places them at a disadvantage. Often progressive and fatal means that the disease persists over time and that physical, emotional, and social changes are often cumulative and may progress as drinking continues. Alcoholism causes premature death through overdose, organic complications involving the brain, liver, heart and many other organs, and by contributing to suicide, homicide, motor vehicle crashes, and other traumatic events. Impaired control means the inability to limit alcohol use or to consistently limit on any drinking occasion the duration of the episode, the quantity consumed, and/or the behavioral consequences of drinking. Preoccupation in association with alcohol use indicates excessive, focused attention given to the drug alcohol, its effects, and/or its use. The relative value thus assigned to alcohol by the individual often leads to a diversion of energies away from important life concerns. Adverse consequences are alcohol-related problems or impairments in such areas as: physical health (e.g., alcohol withdrawal syndromes, liver disease, gastritis, anemia, neurological disorders); psychological functioning (e.g., impairments in cognition, changes in mood and behavior); interpersonal functioning (e.g., marital problems and child abuse, impaired social relationships); occupational functioning (e.g., scholastic or job problems); and legal, financial, or spiritual problems. Denial is used here not only in the psychoanalytic sense of a single psychological defense mechanism disavowing the significance of events, but more broadly to include a range of psychological maneuvers designed to reduce awareness of the fact that alcohol use is the cause of an individual's problems rather than a solution to those problems. Denial becomes an integral part of the disease and a major obstacle to recovery. --End of definition -- http://www.step12.com/alcoholics-definition.html Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

From the beginning the question was presented to stevebabin. It was always for stevebabin. It is good that you guys have his back. But he always bails out when I come back with something he can't answer. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Your argument is that it is not a disease. I never made such a claim. Go ahead, scroll back and search for what you're claiming I said. Your claims are bullshit. Your post #1222: http://www.drug-addiction-help-online.com/alcoholism.html Alcoholism is a disease - a chronic, progressive, fatal disease if not treated. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Your argument is that it is not a disease. It is. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

See post #1241 Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Alcoholism Alcoholism is a disease that includes alcohol craving and continued drinking despite repeated alcohol-related problems, such as...Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse Alcoholism and alcohol abuse facts What... Source: MedicineNet Disease theory of alcoholism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Alcohol Dependence Classification and external resources ICD-10 F10.2 ICD-9 303 A 1904 advertisement labeling alcoholism a "disease". The modern disease theory of alcoholism states that problem drinking is sometimes caused by a disease of the brain, characterized by altered brain structure and function.[1] The existence of alcoholism as a disease is accepted by some within the medical and scientific communities,[2] although critics exist. The American Medical Association (AMA) had declared that alcoholism was an illness in 1956. In 1991, The AMA further endorsed the dual classification of alcoholism by the International Classification of Diseases under both psychiatric and medical sections. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

quade, you actually have to read. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.