RonD1120

Not really. You should read what the succeeding states said in their own words. Here, for example, is South Carolina: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp It really was all about slavery. Slavery was the rally point. But the real reason was States rights vs Federal powers. It took the FORM of the slavery issue. But the issue was that the States felt that the Federal Government did not have the right to over step what the States saw as their rights. It was State vs Federal power. AMEN! Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Billvon, you totally missed the point. My fault I guess because so did many others in this thread. I did not judge the child. Think in the macro sense. Sin entered the world through Adam. Sin brings disease and all the bad things of life. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

And, we just kick the can down the road. AGAIN, and AGAIN, and AGAIN. We are so screwed. Prepare for SHTF. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

No, it doesn't. Just use the logic of your own mythology for a nanosecond. If God created the universe and everything in it, then he created Satan. Yours is a trite and hackneyed argument. Satan is a created being that was cast from heaven. I know that makes absolutely no sense to you but, I try. Some Scripture for reference: Ezekiel 28: King James Version (KJV) 28 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord God; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: 3 Behold, thou art wiser than Daniel; there is no secret that they can hide from thee: 4 With thy wisdom and with thine understanding thou hast gotten thee riches, and hast gotten gold and silver into thy treasures: 5 By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches: 6 Therefore thus saith the Lord God; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; 7 Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. 8 They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas. 9 Wilt thou yet say before him that slayeth thee, I am God? but thou shalt be a man, and no God, in the hand of him that slayeth thee. 10 Thou shalt die the deaths of the uncircumcised by the hand of strangers: for I have spoken it, saith the Lord God. 11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. 13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. Luke 10: 18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Revelation 12: 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. Note from this last verse, when you and the others attack and accuse me, one of the brethren, you are an agent of Satan. That's OK, for it serves to reinforce my belief. It is just your nature. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

The following is relevant to our discussion of prayer. It is Oswald Chambers for 17 Oct. I never read the "Brothers Karamazov", that is heavy stuff, very depressing. 172013 And greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto My Father. — John 14:12 Prayer does not fit us for the greater works; prayer is the greater work. We think of prayer as a common-sense exercise of our higher powers in order to prepare us for God’s work. In the teaching of Jesus Christ prayer is the working of the miracle of Redemption in me which produces the miracle of Redemption in others by the power of God. The way fruit remains is by prayer, but remember it is prayer based on the agony of Redemption, not on my agony. Only a child gets prayer answered; a wise man does not. Prayer is the battle; it is a matter of indifference where you are. Whichever way God engineers circumstances, the duty is to pray. Never allow the thought – "I am of no use where I am;" because you certainly can be of no use where you are not. Wherever God has dumped you down in circumstances pray, ejaculate to Him all the time. "Whatsoever ye ask in My name, that will I do." We won’t pray unless we get thrills, that is the intensest form of spiritual selfishness. We have to labour along the line of God’s direction, and He says pray. "Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that He will send forth labourers into His harvest." There is nothing thrilling about a labouring man’s work, but it is the labouring man who makes the conceptions of the genius possible; and it is the labouring saint who makes the conceptions of his Master possible. You labour at prayer and results happen all the time from His standpoint. What an astonishment it will be to find, when the veil is lifted, the souls that have been reaped by you, simply because you had been in the habit of taking your orders from Jesus Christ. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I think you meant these verses for kallend. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Isaiah 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV) 19 That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it! 20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! 21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Emphasis mine Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

When sin entered the world sickness entered the world. We also know that a father's sin can transferred on his offspring. Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; Exodus 34:7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. Numbers 14:18 The Lord is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, Sickness, Disease, Healing http://www.acts17-11.com/dialogs_sickness.html Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Not worth my time and energy. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I do not know. I was interested in the technology not the wood itself. Google "hidden cabinet safe" and you will find many references. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

The models I saw were end table and cabinet size and it seems the prices were around $2K. A major factor of price was the sophistication of electronics. On some models the drawer on the table would open when a vase on another table was moved to a specific location. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Last year I attended a gun show in Plant City, FL. I witnessed demonstrations of these plain sight hides in various sizes and configurations. Not cheap but within the realm of middle class budgets. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

First I hope the lad continues on the path to full recovery. In the Christian world of faith we pray for favor through Jesus Christ. It is a crutch because we need to have a crutch when nothing else is going to give us peace. It is what we do when there is nothing else we can do. God does not give disease He allows it. The Bible states that every good and perfect thing comes from God. All the bad and evil comes from Satan. The book of Job is usually the reference to this understanding. In my church we have two people that I know claiming healing from cancer through Jesus Christ when the odds were not in their favor. We also have a man who has been an active evangelist for the gospel of Jesus Christ and he has cancer. He is not doing well but he and his wife, as well as many in the church, are believing for full recovery. Disease is a product of sin. The Bible instructs that death is certain once. How we die is of no consequence in the over all plan. It is only important to the individual. Where we go after death is the most important consequence of human life. The gospel of truth is, Jesus is the lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. It is on a case by case basis depending on the will of the individual. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Just sayin' Aw c'mon guys, you know the judge has difficulty when folks don't respect his rulings. Be thankful he doesn't have a method for bitcoin fines for contempt. I'm sure he noticed that none of you have managed to add any GOP names. A lot of huffing and puffing about unfairness or selective naming, but so far it looks like total victory for the current Democrats on armed service. It wasn't my argument. My only point was that Kerry made false statements to the Senate regarding the behavior of the military in Vietnam. The vets I know think he is a piece of crap. Some in the VVA accept him because they supported the VVAW at the time. I responded to Andy9o8's lists post and he chose to ignore me. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Just sayin' Aw c'mon guys, you know the judge has difficulty when folks don't respect his rulings. Be thankful he doesn't have a method for bitcoin fines for contempt. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Amen Brother, thank you. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

It appears that the Democratic Party is spurred on by war mongers. This seems to be further substantiated by the fact that in my life WWII, Korea and Vietnam were supported by Democrat Party presidents. IMO, the Democrats politicize war and Republicans make money from them. The military industrial complex requires both parties. The new bipartisan move is toward international socialism. It is called Progressive Liberalism. IMO, war with its associated freedom, liberty and sense of personal achievement and victory is preferable to socialism with its associated mediocrity and angst. These are activities of life that obfuscate the true purpose of God's plan. That plan is to live in constant relationship with Him through Jesus Christ. It is possible to have that relationship whether you are a dove or a hawk. So will there be another civil war in America? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I gather from your responses that you were a draft dodger during the Vietnam War. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

I told you I have no defense. Are you going to answer or not? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Wasn't the Republican Party formed as a third party alternative to the Whig Party and the Democrat Party. It seems a good time for the Libertarian Party to grow in strength since it is difficult to separate the Republicans from the Democrats. Libertarians vs. Progressive Liberals Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

You did not answer my question regarding your military service. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

National Guard service, what is there to defend? That was an acceptable route at the time. BTW, in what branch of the military did you serve and when? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

Fargin hippies. I hung out with the AD and combat vets. Hey that's great. Of course, Kerry actually was a combat vet. And in his political zeal he stabbed his fellow combat vets in the back. I have no use for him. But, hey he made it to SoS. To the progressive liberal, the ends justifies the means. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.

You are wrong, that is all there is to it. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them.