Bolas

Who said anything about using it as a measure of justice? It's the big picture. Of all of the prisoners from other countries the US has held what percentage were tortured or killed? Maybe even break that down further to get more appropriate data. You can always make something look horrible if you look at the worst examples. Tens of thousands? US soldiers have killed directly and intentionally? For sake of argument, let's say that is true. How many have we saved though? Which is the greater good? You said: Just because they believe that doesn't mean anyone else has to. Making our few extreme cases the basis for their decision may justify it to them but no one else should believe that. It's be like saying every murderer should go free because a few were beaten or killed while in prison. I'm keeping an open mind as to why and how often it has occurred. Should it have? In an ideal and perfect world, no, but we have to deal with the gray that is the real world. Is this a trend or just a few isolated incidents (response to a direct attack while in prison) and extreme cases (direct 9/11 ties) under extreme circumstances (shortly after 9/11)? I'm not saying that anything makes it "right" just some situations may be more understandable than others. As always once something happens the only thing that can be done is try to prevent reoccurrences and before I get my pitchfork and my torch and demand "change" I'd want to know more. The fact you and I are debating this proves we aren't just like them.

It's a matter of comparison. How many were raped and killed versus how many innocent men, women, and children did they kill or were a part of killing? Because the whole extremist philosophy relies so heavily on truth. Anyone can try to justify anything they do. It's up to others to choose to believe it or not. Anything can be taken out of context and either made look great or wonderful, but it's the big picture view that is important. It saddens me that intelligent people such as yourself now think torturing and killing US soldiers or civilians is now justifiable. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

War is not PC. Civilians and soldiers will die, terrorists will be mistreated to extract information to keep additional civilians and soldiers from dying on both sides. I can guaran-damn-tee you that nothing any prisoner of the US has gone through comes close to what their gov't or organization would do if the tables were reversed. We do hold ourselves to higher standards than those we are fighting. However when they stoop so low as to use women and children as shields and bombs, we have much more leeway. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

From the article: Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

A buddy and I were talking about some potential dating prospects and sometimes maybe it's "too easy" (relationship wise) or "too nice" and being attracted to the bad girl. He said it best, "You just don't seem like someone that will fuck me over so I'm just not attracted to you." I'm pretty laid back and easygoing for the most part. My assholeness really only shows after behavior trends or I feel I'm not being told about stuff that has impact on me. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Wrong place at the wrong time? Just sittin' on the porch minding their business? Totally innocent delicate little flowers that would never heart anyone, not even an american capitalist pig? We can take it, then, that you subscribe to the "GUILTY until proven innocent" and "Sentence first, trial later" theories of justice. Never said that. Just seems like anytime there are cases of prisoner abuse, people instantly think of the "victims" as delicate flowers. We never hear what the person did prior to incarceration or while incarcerated. (attack other prisoners, guards) Plus we only know the one side. We'll probably never know what sort of information was obtained and how many lives were saved. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Wrong place at the wrong time? Just sittin' on the porch minding their business? Totally innocent delicate little flowers that would never heart anyone, not even an american capitalist pig? Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Hmmm... May swing by on the way back from Easter.

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I'm trying to be there for the whole thing.

But still wear a helmet with your raincoat. Very fashionable. But when Roo wears one - she can't reach the window to lick it. Speaking of something similar.... you can't kiss pass with a full face.... Well, not in the traditional sense... Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Eesh. Maybe try a hot tub? Extremely gentle and careful (((HUGS))) Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

as long as bolas doesn't show up in his dress i think we will be fine.... i think he got in trouble with the FBI not too long ago.. Meh. He was outside of his jurisdiction. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

We can make a disguise for you. Bolas wouldn't be using his dress that night - I don't think. I'm sure Banesuara can hook him up. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Equality? Why don't we bus black kids to different schools? Don't they get the same education? I'd never thought about it like that. Poignant and powerful argument.

I think the girls that participated had no shortage of offers to keep them warm.

I thought you were talking to BillyVance! Not that I have not tried to yell at him from across the room or anything! its always fun to stand behiend him and talk shit about him.... You do that too? I'd say so...but HE doesn't do it while in a dress. Even if the jumpsuit was underneath... Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Upside down night. Pants on top, shirts on the bottom.

Whaaaa? It's the fat end that's loaded, right? Don't wanna shoot myself in the foot. Are YOU owning up to the over-the-line PCIT trick? Care to elaborate what/where/who? Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

This may be needed yet again... Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

How about swinger? Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

I generally try to include a Wednesday in there some where. It is naughty thoughts day afterall. Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

Found another: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3429955#3429955 Kisses... Bolasalita Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.

No Shiner? Stupidity if left untreated is self-correcting If ya can't be good, look good, if that fails, make 'em laugh.