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Just because a regulation doesn't make the world perfect, doesn't mean it isn't worth enacting. No proponents of regulation are claiming it will make "all cases of bad instruction go away." I think the obvious intent is that it will improve on the current situation, not make it 110% perfect. I also don't think any of the proponents have suggested that regulation will allow us to throw our hands in the air and stop the hard work of policing ourselves at our own DZ's when we see stupid shit happening. Of course we will still do that. As I mentioned in an earlier post, people on the "against regulation" side of the fence keep acting like we have to choose between regulation and self-policing. That is simply not true. The two can co-exist. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Jump run is often faster than usual. And often slower than usual. These things vary. Is a jumper expected to know by sight and sound how fast the plane is moving? Disregarding that, it is fairly easy to hit a tail even at "normal" jumprun speeds. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Very cool! www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Nothing works for every skydiving discipline, and nothing works all the time, as you pointed out above. Hence my points about a 2-layer system providing more security (while of course still being imperfect). It's clear you "don't want to be"... but can you admit that an extra layer of security has positive aspects (it may prevent someone from getting through) in addition to the negative aspects (you don't like it)? I don't think anyone likes being regulated. I'm still not even sure where I stand on all this but I am trying to address the potential positives. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Where do you get those stats from. And how does that work? Shouldn't the fastest win a race? I don't know how the scoring of the race works. Or were their "fast" runs in qualifying heats? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Cool video. Tony is indeed a legend. And hilarious to watch his dance to receive his trophy. Is the BASE race just based on forward speed? First to cross a certain point on the ground wins? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Sure, and then you have the locals for peer pressure when that happens. Think of it as a two-layer firewall. Top layer = national rules. Bottom layer = local peer pressure. Who says we have to choose one or the other? They are not mutually exclusive. Why not use both? For those who respond properly to mentoring and education, the (hypothetical) rules will never even get in their way. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

How nice of you to brag on the internet about how you think he will break the law for you. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

No, he did not. Which is why I am asking him what exactly he believes regarding that issue, in the interest of further on-topic "thinking." And dissatisfaction with the posters who expressed a differing opinion, accusing them of not wanting to think about the topic. It's not an argument, it's an example. There is not a 1:1 correspondence between both examples, but one simple fact does carry over perfectly. My local pharmacy is whatever it wants to be, as is Google. Both entities have the rights to make whatever business and political decisions they want, and it would be an error to assume that for ANY enterprise (even the lemonade stand on the corner) business and politics do not commingle. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

For someone who recently spent a good deal of time in a different thread complaining about having words put in his mouth, you are doing a good job of putting words in someone else's mouth here. Nobody accused anyone of having "midget sex with horses" (well, until you accused billvon of just that). The obvious intent behind the comment you're reacting to, was that your posts suggested you spend time on the internet searching for information about midget horse sex. Research is quite different from participation, and I'm not sure how implying that somebody uses the internet to research _____ is an insult on personal character. Speaking of which, how exactly does a non-midget engage in "midget sex with a horse"? Maybe your research could help us answer that question. The topic is being discussed. You just don't like the answers. Answers given so far: - A comparison between a context search for one item and a store search for a different item is invalid. Both items you mentioned are not present in the store, and both items you mentioned ARE present in web searches. - Not every store sells every item. - The items you do want can be found elsewhere. Here are half a dozen questions though if you want to continue discussing: What else exactly is there to discuss? My local pharmacy does not sell altimeters. If I created a thread about that, what do you think the result would be? A resounding "buy your fucking altimeters elsewhere." Why should Google have less freedom than my local pharmacy to decide what they list for sale? What you like to see happen to rectify this horrible situation for you? Do you believe a corporation should change their opinion because of yours? Or should you use your opinion to choose a different corporation? I have literally never once in my life asked a store to carry an item that they don't. When I want to buy something, I look for it where I know can get it. Simple, right? But if you do want Google to change... why are you telling us? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Achtung Baby > Joshua Tree! But agreed on most of the others.

Achtung Baby > Joshua Tree! But agreed on most of the others.

Look closely at the URL, or the "challenge" links on the left hand side (there are 3 separate categories). And yes, the "time challenge" is weighted toward time. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Pretty much any wingsuit jumper with a decent amount of experience. IF you are worried about not being able to deploy, then (1) get a smaller suit (2) stick to airplane jumps and pull high. You will get more experience, and you will realize how silly the question above looks, no offense. Not sure if this is a strange joke or what, but it's pretty funny either way. Can a student take a Velocity 90 on his first skydive and "save his life" ahead of time by changing his brake settings to make it harder to unintentionally stall the canopy? Anything is possible (like "winning" at Russian Roulette), but it is a very very strange definition of a "life save." If the student was really worried about his own life he would not take the Velocity up in the first place. No. The best way to gain knowledge about wingsuit dynamics is to pick a popular and well-designed beginner suit, and jump the fuck out of it, until you realize that you can do everything you ever wanted without modding the suit, including the most basic (and just slightly important) task: deployment. Go watch superterminal, one of the first really impressive proximity flight videos I saw, years ago. Most of them were wearing tracking suits. Not even wingsuits. The task of designing (of which modifying is a subset) a wingsuit, or test jumping a new/modified design, is reserved for someone who already understands wingsuit dynamics. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Being an athlete and being a manufacturer are two very different things. The one advantage of the athlete is he knows what he needs. In some cases they happen to align successfully. See Robi Pecnik. This is not necessarily the norm though, or a guarantee as you seem to imply. The leading parachute manufacturer is not managed by the leading parachute pilots... though it does employ them as athletes. I'm interested to see what comes out of it though, and I wish the best. Sidenote: the words "aerodynamic research" have a very specific and substantial meaning. I hope those words aren't just intended to generate buzz. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I don't think the majority of my college professors could teach ... just saying. That's an insult to real wingsuit flyers everywhere! Wait... I lost track of who was insulting who. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I think there's a F.A.R. for that. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

You are flying forward AND down much faster, most likely. And your glide is probably not any better. A similar effect can be achieved by having proper bends at hips, chest, and neck, which is the correct body position for glide/distance. Shrinking arms on a Vampire seems like an odd choice. I am sure Robi know better than me or you how to size arm wings for his flagship suit. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Mark has a long history of both flying wingsuits and driving wingsuiters around Puerto Rico in a mini-van. And Mark himself is the only one here who will even laugh at that reference... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I appreciate the idea Lurch, but I don't think any amount of video expertise will be able to make a falling camera (i.e. on a canopy pilot's head) provide proof of a climb. Especially since the only reference to use for frame by frame analysis would be the horizon. An airplane in level flight might provide a good reference, but again you'd have to prove (assuming you want to shut up the naysayers) that it really was in level flight. I myself am neither a naysayer nor a believer. I agree with you that a video would provide more believable evidence than a GPS, but I cannot think of an easy way to implement that video proof. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

without diving (you stated "An actual dive is not even necessary. ")... yes i think it's very farfetched. Agreed. For that to be possible from steady state flight, we would need a wing loading comparable to a canopy. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I suppose when you jump out of airplanes it is driven by altruism rather than ego? www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I enjoyed seeing the flair from the video shot of it from the side. It's interesting that the trajectory before the flare looks like it would have brought him pretty close to the "beginning" of the box runway, while after the flare he is considerably past the middle. Flare a little too early, or a little too hard... www.WingsuitPhotos.com

I'm intrigued by the little "alleyway" he uses to walk out of the box fortress. The fact that such alleyways exist would imply that the box fortress has some empty spots in it... which seems kind of sketch. Or maybe I am misunderstanding something. www.WingsuitPhotos.com

Clearly he's geeking the camera. A bit disconcerting how close the edge of the boxes looks in that zoomed shot. Any decent wingsuit pilot could hit a target that size, but when that target is your life, it sure looks a lot smaller. Big balls indeed, and a cool head and precise landing. www.WingsuitPhotos.com