Hey PDS, thanks for your perspective. I guess making wild statements about safety is not going to help anyone. I just honestly think that so much has changed, since I did my first wacked out unstable side door exist from a Cessna turbo, with a round, back in early 90's. Sure, there are still big risks for students, no one could be stupid enough to deny that. But it seems to me that the risks are equal, for
students and experienced skydivers. As we in Africa know - "If you're going to be dumb - you'd better be tough."
- Tonto