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Good reason to go in w/ nuke bunker busters? Or land, sea and air SO's. Man I see the REAL WWIII on the horizon and it ain't gonna be pretty We can't take on half the freaking world Iran builds a secret underground complex as nuclear tensions rise By Philip Sherwell in Washington (Filed: 12/03/2006) Iran's leaders have built a secret underground emergency command centre in Teheran as they prepare for a confrontation with the West over their illicit nuclear programme, the Sunday Telegraph has been told. The complex of rooms and offices beneath the Abbas Abad district in the north of the capital is designed to serve as a bolthole and headquarters for the country's rulers as military tensions mount. Iran uses small attack boats to simulate assaults on US warships The recently completed command centre is connected by tunnels to other government compounds near the Mossala prayer ground, one of the city's most important religious sites. Offices of the state security forces, the energy department and the Organisation of Islamic Culture and Communications are all located in the same area. The construction of the complex is part of the regime's plan to move more of its operations beneath ground. The Revolutionary Guard has overseen the development of subterranean chambers and tunnels - some more than half a mile long and an estimated 35ft high and wide - at sites across the country for research and development work on nuclear and rocket programmes. The opposition National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI) learnt about the complex from its contacts within the regime. The same network revealed in 2002 that Iran had been operating a secret nuclear programme for 18 years. The underground strategy is partly designed to hide activities from satellite view and international inspections but also reflects a growing belief in Teheran that its showdown with the international community could end in air strikes by America or Israel. "Iran's leaders are clearly preparing for a confrontation by going underground," said Alireza Jafarzadeh, the NCRI official who made the 2002 announcement. America and Europe believe that Iran is secretly trying to acquire an atomic bomb, although the regime insists that its nuclear programme is for civilian energy purposes. As the United Nations Security Council prepares to discuss Iran's nuclear operations this week, Teheran has been stepping up plans for confrontation. Its chief delegate on nuclear talks last week threatened that Iran would inflict "harm and pain" on America if censured by the Security Council. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the hardline president who has called for Israel to be "wiped off the map", also said that the West would "suffer" if it tried to thwart Iran's nuclear ambitions. As the war of words intensified, President George W Bush said that Teheran represents a "grave national security concern" for America. In Iraq, which Mr Ahmadinejad hopes will develop into a fellow Shia Islamic state, Iran is already using its proxy militia to attack British and American forces, often with Iranian-made bombs and weapons. As tensions grow, Teheran could order Hizbollah - the Lebanese-based terror faction that it created and arms - to attack targets in Israel. The regime is also reviewing its contingency plans to attack tankers and American naval forces in the Persian Gulf and to mine the Strait of Hormuz, through which about 15 million barrels of oil (about 20 per cent of world production) passes each day. Any action in the Gulf would send oil prices soaring - a weapon that Iran has often threatened to wield. The Pentagon's strategic planning is focused on the danger that Iran might try to mine the strait and deploy explosive-packed suicide boats against its warships. In May, American vessels in the Gulf will take part in the Arabian Gauntlet training exercise that deals with clearing mines from the strait, which has a navigable channel just two miles wide. The naval wing of the Revolutionary Guard has in recent years practised "swarming" raids, using its flotilla of small rapid-attack boats to simulate assaults on commercial vessels and United States warships, according to Ken Timmerman, an American expert on Iran. The Pentagon is particularly sensitive to the dangers of such attacks after al-Qaeda hit the USS Cole off the Yemen with a suicide boat in 2000, killing 17 American sailors. Last month the White House listed two foiled al-Qaeda plots to attack ships in the Persian Gulf and the Strait of Hormuz. US intelligence believes that if Iranian nuclear facilities were attacked by either America or Israel, then Teheran would respond by trying to close the Strait of Hormuz with naval forces, mines and anti-ship cruise missiles. "When these systems become fully operational, they will significantly enhance Iran's defensive capabilities and ability to deny access to the Persian Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz," Michael Maples, the director of the Defence Intelligence Agency testified before the Senate armed services committee last month. A senior American intelligence officer said that the US navy would be able to reopen the strait but that it would be militarily costly. Hamid Reza Zakeri, a former Iranian intelligence officer, recently told Mr Timmerman that the Iranian navy's Strategic Studies Centre has produced an updated battle plan for the strait. Its most devastating options would be to use its long-range Shahab-3 missiles to attack Israeli or American bases in the region or to deploy suicide bombers in Western cities under its strategy of "asymmetric" response. "The price to the West for standing up to Iran is clear," Gen Moshe Ya'alon, the former Israeli defence chief said last month in Washington. "It includes terror attacks, economic hardship… and consequences resulting from fluctuations in Iranian oil production. Indeed, the regime believes that the West - including Israel - is afraid to deal with it." I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Twice. Both short term after bad accidents. Called traumatic amnesia I think. How ya doing as of late Chris? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

That was pretty funny. For real tho? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

So far two dogs down but the died doing what they love as you said. Looking like I'm gonna lose my bet. For anyone interested go tohttp://www.iditarod.com/gdc/racecurrent.html-----------------------------We have a malamute and a husky and I wish I had a sled w/ wheels. In So.Cal. The dogs walk ME or should I say DRAG me and god forbid they get away. They run for hrs._______________ I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

"It's OK, Mexico is slowly but steadily taking Texas back. Then it will be their problem."____________________And Ca.,Az., Nm.,Fl.______________________________________________ I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

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So you can IMAGINE what they do in private. We need more people the Lt. Cmdr. Bush____________________ I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

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I have to go see this one. Anybody in L.A. go yet? ___________________________ After his incandescent plays about the death penalty ("The Exonerated") and the media in Iraq ("Embedded"), it seemed inevitable that actor-writer-director Tim Robbins would continue to fearlessly produce politically charged theater. In his newest production by Los Angeles' Actors' Gang ensemble, a corrosive play based on George Orwell's novel "1984" and adapted by Michael Gene Sullivan, director of the San Francisco Mime Troupe, Big Brother is here and torture is us. The Actors' Gang show differs markedly from previous Orwell adaptations in that Sullivan and Robbins focus on the book within the novel, written by Big Brother's enemy No. 1, Goldstein, who argues that capitalism uses continual warfare as a means of economic exploitation and control. "That's essential to this production," says Robbins, who directs the play. "That's where the meat is for me, because it rings so true now." Writing in 1948, Robbins points out, Orwell was not looking at the future, but "reflecting on the world around him … In fact, what he contends is that what war has really become is a way to keep the elite minority in power and to deplete the resources of the economies in the post-industrial age." Indeed, the Actors' Gang production reveals Big Brother to be an elite minority, controlling and exploiting the masses through perpetual warfare. (Wasn't it just the other day that Rumsfeld called the war on terrorism "the long war," and the Bush administration asked Congress to appropriate $439 billion for next year's defense budget?) Speaking of government control, Robbins marvels at how Orwell the novelist did not allow Big Brother's omnipotence to concern itself with the downtrodden majority. "Brilliant how prescient he was. When you reread the book, there's a passage where they don't care about 85 percent of the people who are proles -- they're so stupefied by poverty and overwork, and pacified by entertainment and by lotteries, that they're never going to be a problem … What Big Brother has to monitor and be concerned with is the other 15 percent of people who are in the upper rungs of society." During a recent performance of the play, which opened Feb. 11 and runs through April 8, the audience appeared both entertained and disturbed by the parallels with current events: a national security apparatus eavesdropping on American citizens; the military's use of torture in prisons in Afghanistan, Iraq and Guantanamo; and "rendition" -- the Bush administration's euphemism for kidnapping suspected terrorists and sending them off to regimes in Syria, Egypt or Saudi Arabia for months, even years, of interrogation. Robbins' production is stark and something of a departure, the director feels, from the company's usually buoyant, satirical performances. "This is not so much satire," he points out, "as it is a drama, and we think we found the humor in it." Humor in a hapless Winston Smith, who is tortured for nearly two hours onstage? No one said it wouldn't be twisted: ear-splitting music and electrodes are part of the interrogation arsenal; the play's humor, such as it is, comes unexpectedly and is short-lived. Telescreens, naturally, are everywhere. Much about this theatrical "1984" feels ominously real -- nothing like the 1984 Michael Radford film that depicted a totalitarian futuristic society. Robbins is planning his own film version, to be shot in New York, "essentially the way it looks now. No big special effects, no futuristic imaginings; just the way it is." "It's more about the mind and self-censorship," he continues. "Orwell writes about acquired self-censorship, the idea that Big Brother is present if you allow him to be present. There are many people living in fear, and that's really what he was writing about -- totalitarianism of the mind." Robbins balks when asked about critics who accuse him of agitprop. "It seems that anytime someone questions something from the left, or from a progressive point of view, there is an immediate rush to label it 'political,' as a way I think to marginalize it as a work of art. I find that offensive." Robbins has stuck his neck out repeatedly over the years, with repercussions for both himself and his family -- he has two children with actor and activist Susan Sarandon; when the couple spoke out against the Iraq war, they received death threats and had major public appearances cancelled. Robbins accuses the entertainment industry of being far more conservative than we are led to believe. "I'll bring up the most crucial time in the last ten years, right before the Iraq war; Hollywood was essentially silent about that. I had many people tell me 'Now's not the time to protest.' Well, if now's not the fucking time, when is the time?" But exercising his First Amendment rights, Robbins insists, has not hurt his career. "It doesn't hurt you to use your freedom," he says, "and if it does, then why have freedom? They told me before the first Iraq war, 'Don't go down to Washington and protest; it's going to hurt your career.' And the next two years brought Bob Roberts and The Player, and afterwards Shawshank Redemption and Hudsucker Proxy; after this war I won an Oscar for Mystic River. Doublethink and Newspeak are still prominent features of Robbins' 1984, and never has this nightmare had more resonance than today, when the neo-conservative agenda of the Bush administration has capitalized on fear-mongering and division as a form of mass control. Robbins argues that throughout the Reagan-Bush years, through Clinton and until today, right-wing talk radio and other media have waged an effective campaign against the left and the Democratic party, while fostering hatred of Americans by Americans. "Well, now they've got it all," he says. "They've got the executive, they've got the Congress, they've got the judicial for the most part, and things are worse. And sooner or later, if Joe Sixpack doesn't figure this out, that he's been lied to for the past 25 years …" "I'm not the enemy," Robbins says. "I've been advocating for the American worker, for peace and justice. That's not the enemy. The enemy is people who make you believe that hatred is necessary in this country, because all your hatred is doing is buoying up and keeping in power people who do not have your best interests at heart, people who will not represent you in Washington. They will close down your factories and sell off the jobs to the highest bidder in China. How un-American is that? But somehow these people are aligned with God and country, and this illusion has been sold for the past 25 years. It's very clever, very effective propaganda." If today's citizenry lack a sufficient culture of dissent, Robbins says, it may be the result of too much comfort. "People believe they're comfortable … We're locked into our telescreens and we believe; we buy into the culture of entertainment and distraction and advertisement." Few celebrities in Robbins' position of power are making themselves heard beyond the pale of mass entertainment. With the recent exception of George Clooney, the list of progressive entertainers willing to speak out publicly is still painfully short. Could the Bush administration be spying on outspoken Americans with a liberal agenda? Says Robbins, "Certainly I think the reason they are being so secretive about [wire-tapping] is they've fallen into that Nixonian trap. They're so paranoid about their own lies and deceptions that they feel like they have to monitor their opposition." If "1984" is 2006, and torture is what Americans do to extract information from the enemy, Robbins still refuses to play his cards close to the vest, to avoid Big Brother's scrutiny. The government may be watching him, he says, but "paranoia is a sign that you're losing the battle." __ I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

"Can you still collect unemployment if you resign, or is it only if you're fired/layed off?" ----------------------Absolutely. Have to have "JUST CAUSE" tho. I'm there now. ROF/LOW is better tho.-------------------- I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Are we in SC? I was trying to get out of there I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

I picked Paul to win this morn. when he was in 4th. Any wagers?---------------------------- Paul Gebhardt Kasilof, AK, USA Bib Number: 84 Position: 1 Check Point: Cripple Time In: Thu, March 09, 2006 08:20:00 Dogs In: 15 Time Out: Thu, March 09, 2006 13:48:00 Dogs Out: 15 8 Hr. Layover: 24 Hr. Layover: Average Speed: 5.911 MPH A consistent top contender, Paul Gebhardt, 49, was born in Minnesota. He will be running his tenth Iditarod in '06. After a 2nd place finish in the 2000 Iditarod, Paul sold his team and took a hiatus from mushing. His 9th place finish in '05 Iditarod was with a new young team that stems from the bloodlines of Paul's Lolly Medley Golden Harness Award-winning leader, Red Dog. Paul has won the Copper Basin 300 and the Tustumena 200, as well as being the recipient of the Alaska Airlines Leonhard Seppala Humanitarian Award in the '98 Iditarod. He has been awarded humanitarian and sportsmanship awards in various mid distance races. Paul is one of a limited number of mushers who builds his own dog sleds. Paul and his wife, Evy, operate their small Morning View Kennel on Alaska's Kenai Peninsula, as well as a year-round destination lodge for tourists at their Kasilof location. When he is not mushing, Paul is a full time general contractor specializing in custom homes. He says, "My family is the most important thing in my life" and enjoys spending time working on the log home he and his wife built together. Paul is an avid hunter and outdoorsman, and enjoys exploring Alaska by dog team and on horseback. He and Evy are the parents of Kristin, 21. Musher Printout: Paul Gebhardt Checkpoint Distance Time In Dogs In Time Out Dogs Out Rest Status Anchorage 0 03/04/2006 13:02:00 12 BLM 11 03/04/2006 14:07:00 12 Willow 70 03/05/2006 16:44:00 16 03/05/2006 16:44:00 16 Yentna 115 03/05/2006 20:18:00 16 03/05/2006 20:18:00 16 0:00 Skwentna 149 03/06/2006 04:51:00 16 03/06/2006 04:56:00 16 0:05 Finger Lake 194 03/06/2006 10:27:00 16 03/06/2006 15:14:00 16 4:47 Rainy Pass 224 03/06/2006 18:36:00 16 03/06/2006 18:40:00 15 0:04 Rohn 272 03/07/2006 04:30:00 15 03/07/2006 04:41:00 15 0:11 Nikolai 365 03/07/2006 16:31:00 15 03/08/2006 01:00:00 15 8:29 McGrath 413 03/08/2006 05:46:00 15 03/08/2006 05:47:00 15 0:01 Takotna 436 03/08/2006 08:11:00 15 03/08/2006 16:06:00 15 7:55 Ophir 474 03/08/2006 18:06:00 15 03/08/2006 18:35:00 15 0:29 Cripple 534 03/09/2006 08:20:00 15 03/09/2006 13:48:00 15 5:28 ----------------------------------------------- I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

I saw the fucktards speech and I go to the white house website and leave emails for the asshole once in awhile. I'd like to read the bill for myself in it's entirety not some brief of it. Skewed I'm sure I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

AND I WAS PUT ON A NO FLY LIST LAST YR. FOR A REASON THEY WOULD NOT TELL ME. AND I'M ALWAYS ALWAYS OF SPECIAL INTEREST TO THE TSA. NEVER HAD A FELONY IN MY LIFE. MINOR BS YRS AGO. WHAT'S UP W THAT. VEE NEED TO SEE YOUR PAPERS. Sorry bout the capslock I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

why is this only a young sheep problem? Personally I'm old so tho it pisses me off I'll be dead and gone before the shit really hits the fan (I hope). Actually it's all sheeps problem. I do worry about my kids and grandkids tho. This secret shit has got to cease or ya'll will be in the new secrect american gulags if you don't walk someones moral line. Ok. I'm on my way out to get my cold medicine so I can show my new ID card so I can get in ANOTHER govt. database_____________________________ I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Watching Bush sign the NEW AND IMPROVED Patriot Act Bill. How come I can't find a copy of it. It secrect maybe? All you young sheep out there better had wake up and smell the coffee I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

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I've gone from RedWings to Georga Boots. All depends. Take your time trying them all on. Regardless breaking in boots sucks. My last Red Wings I poured a quart of liquid mink oil in in em, let em set for a month. Perfect except for brown socks til I retired em. And trust me. We were wearing pedometers on the last job and the bosses were clocking 10 plus miles a day I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Were they sans tail and backstrap? YUMMY Never tried a croc but gator kicks ass I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

"What's that flushing noise I hear?"---------------------The USA going down the drain maybe. Along w/ everbodys pensions------------------------------------------------------- I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

My first job was at Disney World many moons ago. Man I can tell you some stories. Was makin 80 bucks on a weekly check. God I'm gettin old. This sucks I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

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Typical bias against men. I used to leave the house when my wife started punching me and going off. She called and got a restraing order against me (alleding untrue things) and I found my clothes on the front porch the next day. That shit gotta stop. Women working the system It's all good tho. I'M FREE I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

What? So if I piss someone off in the US - say by accidently denting their car - then I might get shot and you think thats a good thing? And you also think that a very high gun murder rate is an incentive not to commit a crime? What the hell were you actually trying to say? If you ACCIDENTLY do it that's OK. If you are a uncareing ignorant moron and do it I MAY shoot you. But only if you threatin me first I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.

Good call. Tho, I'd want a DNA test . I married a couple sluts. Who's yo daddy? I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all.