juggalo

B 7 ????????????????? who are you brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

well I would not jump there if my life depended on it. DZO there is!@###$%^%$ brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

Like I've asked the rest WHO are YOU really?? Come on C 999999 If thats your're number then its b!@#$#$#@@% like your posts Brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

what license orginaztion is freed? brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

Again who are you?? I do not see any one with C-55555 listed in USPA FESS up and let us know who you really are you post a lot brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

Who are you?? C 55555?? As of Feb 2006 the last C license listed was 35162 So who the --==- are you? If you cannot post under your true self please don't. brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

Maybe you should be re-certified the customer is always right!! NOT Sounds like you all did the right thing for the situation. Another Scenario You might have gone on with the jump BUT paid close attention at pull time and guided the students hand to the right place or prevented him/her from pulling the worng handle. If this went on too long the R-jm sorry Instructor should pull the offside handle and deploy the main. Wasen't there so I really won't pick on another Instructor. Everyone landed ok so its a good jump. Just think all that fun and 35 bucks to boot. brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

***Check with your instructors, but I was taught you can even check you alti during the practice touches (think where your hand is). YES glad you said that I forgot to mention it. thanks! If your alti is on your hand/wrist. I'm not sure if anyone still uses chest mounts but some DZ'S could be. Also I have seen references to the internal clock, this is good but its not going to develope for some time in new jumpers. Jumping AFF at the early and really all levels the instructors should be there to give alti reminders. But there are those students that get away(been there done that got the T-shirt) So i hope that the instruction given follows basic procedures, when in doubt whip it out and stop the jump. In control altitude aware and stable basically. Now for an old twist or input Have you younger jumpers heard of the blue umbrella green bowl analogy? Pretty much while you are at the top of a jump in your Peripheral vision you appear to be falling out of a blue umbrella. At the bottom and pretty much pull time you are falling into a green bowl. If you are watching the horizon or in your peripheral area of vision you will seethis transition. We were taught this when I was training partly due to lack of equipment and due to not depending on equipment. We didn't have AAD'S after student status except for our hands. HAHA I remember one Instructor telling me you can smell the earth when you get close. Its true especially in the mid west. But I digress pay attention but don't depend on technology to save your butt from becoming part of terra firma. Use all of your senses and all of your training. brew ps to you spelling nazis phttttrrrpp I'm too lazy to use spell check waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

RELAX!! You are not the 1st student to do this on L-1 Remember on your next jump you'll have (or you should have) 2 other people to REMIND you of altitude if needed. Exit COA at the top You should have ample time for your training portion of the jump. You can also check altitude during your team turns when going left if your alti is on your left hand/wrist. Try not to dwell on it but don't forget completely about altitude. If at any time you feel unsure CHECK it. Good luck but remember to pull this time. haha Again relax and you should be fine. First jump AFF is tough. brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

I’ve read thru a lot of the posts on this topic and I have some questions and MY OPINIONS TO share. Why do TM’s do hook turns? To gain speed to obtain a good landing is what I’m reading here. Why? With the newer canopies the speed should be there. I have seen TM’s hook because the combined weight was too great to do a normal landing. ie pattern for the day, into the wind. If you were TEACHING students I would not be hooking them as part of first or second jump training. If you are not teaching then I don’t consider you an Instructor just a carnival worker. (my opinion) If you are using older canopies fly and load them appropriately and you will have good landings with out hook turns. If turbulence is a big problem maybe jumping should be halted for the day. We don’t let students jump when conditions are unfavorable why put tandems in the air? I’ve seen tandems go up in really high winds and it still amazes me that people will take that risk for a few bucks. Again students are grounded for high winds why jump tandem? I see a lot of tandems slide in when conditions are not best for a stand up which I think is ok, although a lot of TM’s don’t think this is “cool” as a hook and land, but its probably safer (my opinion) FYI I am a T/IE and I’ve been doing tandems since the mid 1980’s. I’ve jumped most of the gear out there from 360 Vector highlighters to Sigma’s and a lot of other canopies in between. In 900+ tandems I have one injury (my mother in-law) it was my fault on a sliding landing. I let her foot get behind and under me. During my career I’ve done tandems in many regions and conditions across the country and Mexico. The one I did hook the DZO in Chicago chewed me out. I also believe that if we train tandems as first jump students we all would have more repeat business rather than treating them as a fun ride like an amusement park. Nuff said bring on the gnashing of the teeth and etc. brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

And yet another problem with skydiving - you're never sure if you're supporting someone in their quest to make it a safer/better sport, or if you're helping to perpetuate a personal/political grudge by expressing outrage over a 10 year old incident That could be true but this case is to make us safer. There were many problems at this DZ and I really will not go into them. But there is a paper trail out to follow if anyone cares to take the time. Look under the FOI act. I could tell you things that would keep you up late at night but its best to look for yourself and make a decision that way. waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

If the DZ doesn't immediately ground the rig and say thank you, then I would be a prick call the local FAA office. Suggest that the FAA inspectors check all the gear, airplanes, and general operation. Generally, if the gear is poorly maintained there are other problems too. You may have just exposed the tip of the iceberg. The students who jump there need your support in this kind of case. You are right about the tip of the iceburg. The FAA has found lots of problems with this place. But so far nothing has happened but a slap on the wrist. Turbines being fueled with K1, Shoddy maintenance on A/CNon rated istructors ETC, ETC Its pretty amazing what goes on in some jump centers that jumpers don't know about or don't care. Thanks for the input waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

Well if thats not correct, we're both wrong. I also have the number 3 in my head See Poynters manua lVol.2 Its 15 total for a ram air. Also my bad I looked up my notes on this rig and it had 11 patches total. I was writing from memory Sorry my bad. Not to mention it had been used as a main for years. juggalo waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

Especially considering this is the second time it has happened. Juggalo: When you talked to the manufacturer, did they have an opinion on a course of action (besides not packing the worn out main as a reserve)? They did not offer any advice other than this was the second rig reported to them in this condidtion from the same seller. USPA wasn't concerned either. juggalo waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

I have a situation that I would like ssome input on. A friend brought me a tandem to pack that a buddy of his bought used. They jump at a small C-182 DZ, and have no riggers close by. When I started inspecting the reserve canopy I was shocked. It had 8 patches, was extremely dirty and just looked worn out. I recognized the rig was one that had been used at a large local DZ in my area. My concern was that this canopy was beyond its service life and should not be used. I called the manufacturer check it our and trace serial numbers. The response floored me! This canopy was the original main when this system was originally purchased. The main was the original reserve! The two canopies had been switched and the gear sold. Also the manufacturer told me that this was the SECOND rig that had been reported to them with the same problem. What would be the proper action to take in a situation like this. I would really like some input on this. Thanks in advance. waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

I don't think you have proved anything other than you need help. I would throw you off my DZ forever! There is nothing great about an untimely death, of a friend or a stranger. Having been a CSO and a ST&A for many years I say this from experience, ones that I wish I never had. brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

Just curious as to the specifics of you dive flow and altitudes for deployment. Seems 5300' is a bit high for an instructor to deploy you at least where I teach. brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

Rigs are like air craft in many respects. Just because it is older dosen't mean its not airworthy. How many otters out there are over 20 years old? I've jumped sweethogs primarily in 26 years of jumping and prefer them to many newer rigs. I have owned vectors, racers and mirages also. I prefer the sweethog to the others because: First they are built very well, never had one break a main lift web. Second you can do a canopy transfer with one at low speeds. IF you couldn't I would not be posting today! And i will say I started jumping at stewarts place in the 70's so I am a little partial, the shop was on the DZ. but the other facts remain. We still use them but we have several types of student gear in use, that have replaced the sweethogs as they wear out. Yes they do wear but it takes a while. As far as some other issues I wouldn't recommend using the older student hogs for free flying, they were developed before that era of jumping, but we did do a lot of FREAK flying in them. But for basic training they are a great rig. Also if tools last longer your operating expenses stay low, so if you have a bad year you can stay in business. Bottom line to the original point of this thread when traveling check out the place you are thinking about jumping at. What does their air craft look like, staff, gear, don't just show up sign away your life and get on the first plane. Be smart Be safe stay and alive. peace brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

yes that would be the one. waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

hey all Any input on problems cutting away strong tandem systems? We had a T/I with two out and could not release the main. The reserve was twisted around the I's face. He tried to chop and then had the student assist and they could not cut away. The rigs have had the 25 jump service done to them. After the incident we did suspended testing on all of our rigs and 3 of them were almost impossible to chop. some were over 70 pounds of pull force to release and some took both pilot and passenger to pull to effect the cutaway. thanks brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

the video man did his job! got the action and took the middle. got some great educational shots and no one died. facts are the one deploying screwed up not clearing his air space. I've seen the whole video and talked to all of the parties involved. THe low guy knows he screwed up. BREAK OFF was at the altitude he dumped at !! break off track wave deploy ALWAYS! unless you are in the dirt of course for you smart asses. brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

dude don't quit just go back to the part of jumpin that made you stay around in the first place. i get the same feelings you expressed sometimes and some of the other comments here apply too. $$$$ lack of decent belly fliers yuppies all of it But after 25 years nothing suprises me anymore, well maybe the new ways we kill and main ourselves. just go back to the fun and thrilling part of jumpin that hooked you in the first place and don't sell your gear if ya do retire. peace waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

I agree that the dual set up on thisw rig should deploy the reserve. In this case it did not. The jumper was not aware that the cypress fired(BAD) But the reserve stayed on his back even after landing. Personally I have done 3transfers and all of them came out and deployed with out a problem. I think there is some problem with a horizontal extraction with this rig. ???? waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

With the main flying normally to landing I would think that would be enough speed to extract the reserve. This paricular case the reserve bag stayed in the container even after landing. the jumper was not aware that the cypress even fired. With a fully flying main one should be able to do a transfer. brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area

Recently we had a jumper deploy low and his cypress fired. He was jumping a Reflex container mfg. Sept. 2000. Main is a Hornet 210 loaded about 1.1-1.2. Reserve is a tempo 210 and uses the catapult system. Observer on the ground stated the reserve pilot chutes came off the jumpers back as he sat in the saddle and the main started flying. Anyone with any input on this would be greatly appreciated. It makes me wonder about doing a canopy transfer with this rig. Thanks brew waving off is to tell people to get out of my landing area