brenthutch

Again, not my claims… reading comprehension = F

You fail reading comprehension, that information is from EnergySage, a pro-solar organization. This from the EPA “Federal solid and hazardous waste regulations (i.e., the RCRA requirements) apply to solar panels when they are discarded. When a solar panel reaches the end of its usable life or is otherwise discarded, it becomes solid waste. Solid waste is regulated federally under RCRA Subtitle D and through state and local government programs. The discarded solar panel, which is now considered solid waste, may then also be regulated under RCRA Subtitle C as hazardous waste if it is determined to be hazardous. The most common reason that solar panels would be determined to be hazardous waste would be by meeting the characteristic of toxicity. Heavy metals like lead and cadmium may be leachable at such concentrations that waste panels would fail the toxicity characteristic leaching procedure (TCLP)”

A recent report on ZDF German public television explains that currently there’s no plan in place on what to do with the turbine blades, which weigh up to 15 tonnes each. There’s no way to recycle them to use as raw material for new blades. Currently the old blades are being shredded and the chips mixed in with concrete. “You need too much energy and power to shred them,” says Hans-Dieter Wilcken, the operator of a German recycling company. Burning them is also not an option. Hazardous waste The problem with chopping them up is that dangerous carbon fibre particles are produced and pose a threat to human health. Used wind turbine blades have been designated hazardous waste and no one knows how to deal with them. The pro-solar website EnergySage writes: There are some chemicals used in the manufacturing process to prepare silicon and make the wafers for monocrystalline and polycrystalline panels. One of the most toxic chemicals created as a byproduct of this process is silicon tetrachloride. This chemical, if not handled and disposed of properly, can lead to burns on your skin, harmful air pollutants that increase lung disease, and if exposed to water can release hydrochloric acid, which is a corrosive substance bad for human and environmental health. For any user of solar panels, this is not an immediate risk as it only affects manufacturers and recyclers. More disconcerting, however, is the environmental impact of these chemicals. Based on installed capacity and power-related weight, we can estimate that by 2016, photovoltaics had spread about 11,000 tons of lead and about 800 tons of cadmium. A hazard summary of cadmium compounds produced by the EPA points out that exposure to cadmium can lead to serious lung irritation and long-lasting impairment of pulmonary functions. Exposure to lead hardly needs further explanation. Looks like powering the world with rainbows and unicorn farts come with their own set of problems.

Climate cabal collapses… https://financialpost.com/opinion/terence-corcoran-real-world-crises-to-beset-cop28-climate-confab

Except there is no evidence that CO2 is anything but beneficial and you seem to be unaware of the externalities involved with EVs and renewables.

The goal is transportation, the vehicle is car (not bus). You seem to believe a novel transportation system or energy source is the end goal. ”hey I have this new vehicle, it has a much shorter range, it weighs a lot more, takes up to 24 hours to refuel and is more expensive…but it is newwww technology”

The goal would be “provide transportation”. If you don’t like that, change from car manufacturers to electricity producers and re-run the thought experiment and see if you still think it is nonsense

It is the correct way to analyze subsidies. If I give a million dollars to two different car companies and one produces 40 cars and the other produces one, which car is more subsidized?

I wasn’t advocating for subsidies, I was exposing the faulty logic behind the “fossil fuels get more subsidies than renewables” myth

Nature is a far left eco-extremist rag and it’s paywalled. Pretty sure they didn’t do an analysis on a per kilowatt hour basis. All thing being equal, if fossil fuels produced five times the energy of renewables they should get five times the subsidies. But all things aren’t equal now are they?

https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/fossil-fuels/renewable-energy-still-dominates-energy-subsidies-in-fy-2022/#:~:text=Renewable subsidies more than doubled,(both in 2022 dollars). “Renewable subsidies more than doubled between FY 2016 and FY 2022, increasing to $15.6 billion in fiscal year 2022 from $7.4 billion in fiscal year 2016 (both in 2022 dollars). Federal subsidies and incentives to support renewable energy in fiscal year 2022 were almost 5 times higher than those for fossil energy” “A study by the University of Texas projected that U.S. energy subsidies per megawatt hour in 2019 would be $0.5 for coal, $1- $2 for oil and natural gas, $15- $57 for wind and $43- $320 for solar” Looks like the smart money is on coal

I’ve been saying that for more than a decade now. I don’t “hate” renewables and EVs. The problem I have, is the massive amount taxpayer dollars being wasted on them. If they could complete in the free market without eye watering levels of government support I would be fine with them but they can’t. With “peak oil” nowhere in sight and the climate cataclysm failing to materialize, they are a very expensive solution to a non problem. “The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.” H. L. Mencken

High interest rates are in response to high inflation brought on by the massive spending and printing of money post pandemic. Enterprises that are less viable (renewable energy and EVs) will have a more difficult time in this new reality.

Wendy, I never get tired of your analogies.

https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/tesla-shares-plummet-amid-concerns-of-dwindling-ev-demand-93CH-3218217 “Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA)'s stock has taken a sharp downturn, losing nearly 20% in value over the past two weeks, marking a significant blow to the electric vehicle (EV) sector. This steep decline was triggered by Tesla's own revised growth expectations announced during its third-quarter earnings call on October 18, which saw the company's shares drop over 17%, wiping out approximately $130 billion from its market cap…escalating costs, falling prices, rising interest rates, and a tapering demand as contributing factors to this value destruction.” Look on the bright side guys, at least we won’t be missing those windmills to power EVs nobody’s buying.

Let’s get back on topic https://www.nationalfisherman.com/mid-atlantic/-rsted-gives-up-on-new-jersey-wind-projects “Offshore wind developer Ørsted said it is pulling out of its Ocean Wind 1 and Ocean Wind 2 projects off New Jersey, citing escalated financial difficulties and supply chain issues.” Looks like another one bites the dust.

With rates that low it makes more sense to put more money into other investments with a higher rate of return than to pay off mortgages early, especially given the tax deduction on mortgage interest.The “whoosh” you heard was it going over your head.

So the Wall Street Journal is right-wing propaganda?

My car is an eleven year old Honda and I only have one rental left as I recently sold my other one to fund my kids 529 college fund. If my wife wants a big Mercedes SUV, that is her business. Enough about me, let’s get back to the topic at hand https://climatechangedispatch.com/brace-yourself-the-wind-and-ev-bailouts-are-coming/

I already did it myself. The wife is now doing it herself. I’m not some patriarchal dinosaur whose self worth is wrapped up in the ability to earn a paycheck. I’ll opt for 40 minutes of tossing a football with my son over a 40 hour workweek for money I don’t need any day.

A virtue signaling lefty lecturing me on being smug, that is rich.

Now seven and three respectively. BTW just because I make smart financial decisions doesn’t make me a jerk. I sacrificed a lot in the earlier stages of my career in order to set me up for success later in life. Others who did not have the foresight and the discipline to do so as well, have revealed themselves with their snarky responses and jealousy.

Jealous much?

And 15 year

I have two one on my primary residence and one on a rental 2.68% and 2.72% respectively nothing tough about them.