brenthutch

It is called the Gore effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gore_effect

Ship with Climate Change Warriors caught in ice, Warriors evacuated https://maritimebulletin.net/2019/09/04/ship-with-climate-change-warriors-caught-in-ice-warriors-evacuated/

This just in. We have gone from, Global Warming to Climate Change to Climate Crisis and now, according to the NewYorker, we are in a Climate Apocalypse. From the article, “If you’re younger than sixty, you have a good chance of witnessing the radical destabilization of life on earth—massive crop failures, apocalyptic fires, imploding economies, epic flooding, hundreds of millions of refugees fleeing regions made uninhabitable by extreme heat or permanent drought. If you’re under thirty, you’re all but guaranteed to witness it.” “Overwhelming numbers of human beings, including millions of government-hating Americans, need to accept high taxes and severe curtailment of their familiar life styles without revolting. They must accept the reality of climate change and have faith in the extreme measures taken to combat it” “a·poc·a·lypse /əˈpäkəˌlips/ noun 1. the complete final destruction of the world, as described in the biblical book of Revelation.“ Just an FYI for those folks who we telling me, “no one is claiming that”

Just pointing out the reality of the current situation.

Globally, the growth of fossil fuel use is outpacing renewables. https://jacksonlab.stanford.edu/publication/global-energy-growth-outpacing-decarbonization

Because they are all beneficiaries of the “cis gender hierarchy” yet they are all gay and /or women

Only in the West, the developing world is just getting started. Take a look at what China is financing through its Belt and Road Initiative.

Somebody took too many Woman's Studies classes in college ;-) And somebody needs to tell Tim Cook, Mary Barra, Alan Joyce, Gail Boudreaux, Peter Thiel, Ginny Rometty, Martine Rothblatt, Indra Nooyi, Nick Denton, Marilyn Henson, Inga Beale, Safra Catz, Peter Arvai, Hayley Sudbury, Phebe Novakovic and Joel Simkhai that they are the victims of a “cis” gender patriarchy.

Thank you Joe for your thoughtful words. I must admit that I do mix some (sometimes too much) pot stirring to the conversation. My basic points are: The use of fossil fuels and the and the resulting CO2 have been more beneficial than harmful. This is undeniable. Are there downsides? Yes, without a doubt, but on balance they are clearly beneficial. CO2 is not the earths thermostat. Global temps have always risen and dropped independent of CO2 levels. (That is not an opinion that is a fact) During the course of human civilization sea levels and temperatures have been both higher and lower (again a fact) Economic development, NOT carbon mitigation is the best way for us to protect ourselves from natural disasters. (carbon footprint and deaths from natural disasters have and inverse relationship) There is no carbon mitigation plan that can pass a simple cost/benefit analysis (the Paris Accord while costing trillions, by its own admission, will have an immeasurable effect on global temperatures) It is all pain and no gain. Finally, it doesn't matter what the US does (or the rest of the Western world), CO2 will continue to rise. Worldwide, there are currently more than 1500 coal fired powerplants being built. Our carbon output could go to zero and it would not make a difference in global temperatures.

It's not close, it is spot on! I would just add that if it does manifest itself negatively, in a few generations from now, a more wealthy and developed world will be able to handle it much better than an economically crippled one.

Go watch the Global Climate Action Summit and tell me if no one on your side holds that position. Pay particular attention to Alec Baldwin, Harrison Ford, and Dave Matthews, all thought leaders in the alarmist community.

Did you just "I know you are but what am I" me?

Just trying to show that destructive and deadly weather events predate AGW. The notion that we can control the weather is nothing short of delusional. It reminds me of the flood myth motif. A vengeful and angry god (in this case Gaia) punishes humanity for the wicked excesses of the Western world. The only solution is to sacrifice our wealth at the alter of the United Nations.

If only we had a carbon tax after the Civil War we could have prevented this, bigger than normal hurricane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane

That is the kind of thinking that got us Trump in the first place

Indiana is a city?

https://www.freeclinics.com/cit/oh-cleveland

Funny how the folks with the means come to America for treatment. When my dad was being treated at the Cleveland Clinic the lobby looked like a UN get together. Just google, "worlds best (pick your ailment) hospital" and you will see a US facility at the top of every list.

What is up with the Democrats? Their top three are, a gaff prone geriatric with blood shooting out of his eyes and two socialists.

So you agree with me that the government should not have such control over our energy sources.

https://news.grabien.com/story-dems-climate-forum-ban-everything-supercut Dems parrot Nancy Reagan’s “just say no” campaign.

What is the deal with Russian military parachutes? I have seen videos that look like they go out on a short bridled drogue

What is the deal with Russian military parachutes? I have seen videos that look like they go out on a short bridled drogue

Low to mid hundreds, but then again my carbon footprint is HUGE. My tank alone, takes more electricity than the average household.