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Part 82 https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-82/view
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I don't think it's impossible that Cooper could've had a secondary motive, or something that he found even more important than the money... I really can't buy him not caring about the money at all, though. He clearly cared about it when it came on board, what with flaunting it to Florence and being frustrated with how it was being stored. He took care in securing it before jumping. The observational evidence of his behavior indicates that the crime must have at least been partially about the money to me.
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Full description of the scar from the Gunther book...
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A better question would have probably been if this is the earliest known account of him mentioning actually seeing Cooper? 9 years after the hijacking doesn't mean much, but if there's stuff on the record earlier than that...
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Interesting. Is this the earliest known account we have from him?
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What pieces of evidence for Cooper being right-handed do we have? Lysne thought he paid with his right hand, and it's the one he kept inside the briefcase. Anything else? I couldn't find anything about the hand he used to pass the note or cut the shroud lines with. What about the tie? Did how it was worn indicate anything about Cooper's handedness? I ask because I agree it seems that Cooper was right-handed, but I don't see enough evidence yet to be too confident... and as someone becoming more intrigued by Vordahl this may be the exculpatory evidence I have been dreading (or looking for, haha). Where does the claim of him being a leftie actually come from? A friend? A family member? Multiple persons?
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Speaking of FBI files, here's Part 81: https://vault.fbi.gov/D-B-Cooper /d.b.-cooper-part-81/view
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A description of Cooper having "cigarette stains on his right hand" appears repeatedly in the FBI files. However I can't find any documents tying this detail to any particular witness. I assume it probably came from Tina, but does anyone know for certain/know where the 302s say so?
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So originally, I thought the logic was that Elsinore was the only parachuting center at the time near LA, so it must have been the same place that Leclair visited. But the book doesn't actually even describe the place Leclair visited as a parachuting center, it's instead defined as an "airfield". So perhaps we should instead be looking into parachuting events in the LA area in 1971 that featured free-falling and target jumping, as described in Gunther's book? Maybe someone was in the right place at the right time and could verify parts of the story.
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Are there any 302s where the pilot(s) describe Cooper's voice? Which specific members of the flight crew communicated with him over the intercom?
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My bad. Should work now
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I threw together a table of information about the various eyewitness descriptions of Cooper. I used the Powerpoint shared by CooperNWO a little while back as my base and organized everything into columns for easy comparison. If anyone has additional information and/or corrections, let me know and I'll edit it accordingly. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PYdSXY1CmFdPobtnO0xQnRyWsIq-CraFQd-3xF5yiiY/edit?usp=sharing
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I don't think we (or at least I) know enough about Gunther to say for certain if a hoax is the kind of thing he'd try to pull off. On one hand, he was an award-winning, seemingly serious journalist. But after taking a look at his other publications, they seemed a little... fanciful? The covers almost remind me of what clickbait may have looked like in the 1980's if it existed. Mind you I didn't actually read any of them, and I have no idea if the attention-grabbing quotes on the cover are even something the author would be responsible for. All in all, it's a relatively minor dig at his credibility. I haven't found anything to make me think he invented his whole Cooper story. Him being misinformed and/or taken for a ride by a hoaxer seems more likely to me considering some of the basic fact-checking about the hijacking he fails to do in his book.
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Hahneman does have that "geeky, older guy" look going on. Surely the stews must have been shown pictures of him at one point? But the results are probably redacted beyond recognition...
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Right... I forgot about that. Nevermind lol. Also the timeline doesn't seem to work considering The Paper Trip was only first published in 1971... Is there a digital copy of "Do-It-Yourself Divorce" floating around anywhere?
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There's something I've wondered about in the back of my mind for a while... could Max Gunther's Dan Leclair have been inspired by an infamous book called The Paper Trip? I stumbled upon a digital copy yesterday, and I was surprised at how well some of the instructions line up with what Gunther lays out in his book. It does seem like the sort of book a man like Leclair, someone obsessed with "disappearing" himself, would seek out and read... https://archive.org/details/the-paper-trip/mode/1up
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Funny, from a certain point of view, one might say that this conversation contains one Cooper suspect being questioned about another Cooper suspect...
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Where does the last one on the right in the top row come from? And the one before Hahneman's pictures and McCoy's sketch?
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I think he's saying that the documents about the guy John Anderson was looking into is someone else. Another suspect from Egg Harbor, older and working at a different airline. Which would make sense to me considering the discrepancy between Catalano being a good match for the sketch and this other guy apparently not being so. Catalano is the unresolved Egg Harbor suspect. His name is unredacted in the newest FBI files.
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It is very odd indeed to me to sit on what seemed like a relatively compelling suspect for so long. I believe there was some contention with a few cops who knew him whether or not he actually resembled the sketch, which led to him being erroneously eliminated at some point. I wonder if because of this, his files could have gotten shuffled around and misplaced, only to be drawn back to the FBI's attention decades later during a lookover of the case? That's pure speculation on my part, though I can't think of another reason to play coy with such a seemingly good lead. Hopefully, some future documents will shed some more light here... especially on their reinvestigation into him in 2004.
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They seem to have kept him close to their chest despite being aware of him for a long while. I wonder why. It's possible he never even knew he himself was a suspect.
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Very nice... just noticed that Catalano's complexion is confirmed as "dark" in those docs you posted... he also had unspecified military experience (paratrooper training, just maybe?). Seems a little scrawny for Cooper at 155 pounds though, and 37 might still be too young... Anyone able to figure out anything else new about him? I haven't found much, other than a few lawsuits mentioning him... looks like he even filed one himself. He did NOT like TWA, that much I can say for sure, lol.
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I've always heard that it was actually three different partial profiles they found on the tie, each belonging to a different male. So when a suspect's DNA is tested, they are actually being compared to that batch of partial samples. It's not an unreasonable assumption to make that one of those profiles is Cooper, but then again it's not something they can be sure of, either. Whether or not any suspect was ruled out entirely on the basis of their DNA is unknown to me, but I feel like it's one of many factors they would have considered though acknowledging it's not something they can rely upon completely.
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Indeed... not much of an olive/swarthy complexion, though, which worries me! I wonder also if as an Italian he had any sort of noticeable accent?
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He left TWA in 1974... but it seems like he had a grudge against the company both before and after that. He was arrested in 1999 for tampering with evidence, and he passed away in 2006.
