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Would the packing cards tell him this?

As far as sketch A vs. sketch B......we will never know which is better.....unless we catch him lol......kinda like arguing religion imho.

Did Flo get another look at Cooper without his sunglasses on when this occurred? Or was he already wearing them by this time? Seems a little strange that she would be the one positioned between Cooper and the passengers considering her supposed emotional state? I am surprised Alice wasn't the one positioned here.

Stand by row 15? Not let anyone past her? I must have missed this. Could you expand on this?

Do we know for fact that Flo was 'emotional'? I've wondered if the emotional Flo narrative has {was} been overblown? Has {was} she ever asked by anyone about her emotional state during the hijacking? Is it possible that the 'emotional Flo ' narrative might have been a misrepresentative of her activity that night?

Does Shutter attend the conferences? I would enjoy meeting him someday!

Very glad to hear! Thanks for the information!

I hope Shutter is okay as well ! His website will be missed!

Thank you Nicky, I look forward to meeting you as well !

Has Darren ever had 377 on his show? Another I hope to meet at CC!!

Personally I would also add Shutter to the list as well.

I'll respect anybody's choice on this but I agree that it is disappointing. I believe they both would be excellent guests on Darren's show!

Sorry you don't plan on attending. I would enjoy meeting you along with meeting everyone else! I look forward to discussing the case in a more private setting. I am hoping a lot of the old timers are able to attend! I guess I can always hope that you change your mind?

Bummer!

I would love to discuss this in person!! Any chance of that happening at the Cooper Convention?

As per stained hands... I am not sure of the source of this information. Hager and I had conversations concerning the stains. I don't know where's Hag heard about the stains, I was under the impression that Hager might have read about it? It's possible that Hag heard about the stains on one of the Cooper internet sites operating at the time? Seeing as how many people were pipe smokers at the time, shouldn't we consider the possibility that the stains might come from that? Also , being the seventies, might the stains have come from cannabis? Just thought I would throw out some other possibilities .

While we are talking Cossey, I need to correct something from my previous posts...While saying Cossey was the only civilian rigger working in that area, I correct myself. I believe Cossey was the only civilian " Master. " rigger working that area. Sorry for mistake. Evidently you must have to be a Master rigger in order to pack the reserve chutes such as the ones Cooper received? I think Hager believed Cooper requested reserve chutes, although I am not sure that there is any evidence to substantiate Hag's belief?

Really enjoying the discussions ! Going back to some of the earlier ones..... I also have wondered about some of Cooper's use of phrases ? Some sound contrived, others sound borrowed from a movie? Was it rehearsed or was it part of his usual banter? Not sure what, if anything, it says about Cooper? Not sure who posted it....but very thought provoking was the post on the timing of Cooper handing the initial note to Flo .....Great post!! What would Cooper have done if Flo had flipped out and screamed or something else to draw attention to the situation? Why not wait till they are in the air? A mistake in planning? Kinda sounds like it to me, lmho. Once again, very thought provoking. Excellent post!

Couldn't get authorization? Very hard to believe that they couldn't get authorization, in my humble opinion.

I was under the impression that there were a total of 4 aircraft pursuing 305 that night? Where did you get 7 aircraft in pursuit?

Does anyone really think there would be enough time for the military to contact and locate a military rigger and then have him unpack the chutes, add the chaff , and then repack the chutes, and get them delivered, all within Cooper's demanded time frame? As far as proving Cossey was the only civilian rigger working that area..... Find a parachute owned by someone in that area, during this time, that had been packed or repacked by someone other than Cossey. I bet you would have trouble finding one.

As per the last sentence, I might respectfully disagree.

I have a hard time believing Cooper would accept chutes he knew came from McChord.

Of course they would contact Cossey. If he's the only civilian rigger working that area and they only have a certain window of time to find them ( the chutes ) and have them delivered to the airport, who else are they going to contact? And it wasn't coincidence that he was the one who packed Hayden's chute. As the only civilian rigger working that area at the time and also as the only one that had been there for the previous few years, it didn't matter where the chutes came from. They almost certainly were going to be chutes packed by Cossey, given the time frame they were working with. Cooper's foolproof plan to make sure he wasn't getting a chute that had been fucked with?

According to Hager..... Cossey was the only civilian rigger working in that area at the time of the hijacking. In fact Hag said he had been the only rigger in that area for a few years preceding the hijacking. Hager told me. ( according to his research ) that the closest working rigger to Cossey lived and worked about 4 or 5 hours away from Seattle. I believe the guy lived north and east of Seattle. He might have been across the state line? Hag also mentioned about one other rigger that might have packed some chutes during this time. Hag said there was a small airport in the southern part of the state ( Washington ). I think it was about 20 or 30 miles east of Vancouver Washington, maybe just a little north as well. It was operated by a husband and wife. They had a son that was a certified rigger. Although he might have stayed in the state of Washington at times, Hag said this guy worked ( as a rigger ) in the state of Oregon. Hag thought it possible that this rigger might have packed some chutes at his mom and dad's airport for some of their customers? As far as Hager could tell these were the only civilian riggers working anywhere near the hijacking. There were , of course, many different military riggers working during this time. Might this be why Cossey was relevant? ( if he indeed was the only civilian rigger working that area ) Who else was the. F.B.I. going to go to?