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Once again, there was O2 on board. The relative said it was broke. How do they know it wasnt working? Just because you hook the thing up it doesn't start shockin the hell out of the person. It looks for what the manual calls a shockable rhythm. (What ever that means) Then it will shock. And yours sounds like an ambulance chasing lawyer wanting a payday. Sure, I will be that monkey on the wing and fix that flight spoiler. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

O2 was available, with a doctor there giving it. How do you know it was not functional? Did you do the op's check on it? Who said it wasnt working? Reported by who? The relative? How the hell would they know? Because the bag on the mask didnt inflate? it usually doesn't. So how do they know. How was the AED malfunctioning according to the relative? Because it didnt shock her? Unlike some who hide under a rock, if we fuck up I will be the first to want to know what happened and how do we fix it. First of all it is extremely embarrassing to explain to friends who always ask why YOU meaning me fucked up. Maybe, if she was on the ground, near a hospital that had drugs, and a real EKG to see exactly what the hell was going on. I think you are blinding yourself with BS reporting and snapping a conclusion before the body is even room temperature saying that it was preventable. I just find it hard to believe both O2 bottles were empty. But so what it they were? They are 10 more on the plane. Theses bottles where I work are serviced at each service check which is every 3 days. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

I never said you couldn't voice it. You just made it sound like you threw all the blame with the crew by saying this was preventable. She had a doctor there working on her but in your mind this was preventable? Tell us how they should have done things to prevent this lady from going to the dark side. My opinion was it was her time due to the fact she had a doctor and they did what they could to try to save her with what they had. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Hell, next time you fly pull out your altimeter and that will tell you what the cabin altitude is. usually between 5-6000 ft it will probably read. I never used one but I have done the op's check on them plenty of times. There is a little sight window on it. If you see an hour glass the battery and system is good. If you see an X you need to replace it. It is supposed to be check on the first flight of the day and whenever a new crew comes on board. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

How in the hell can you come to that conclusion without ever seeing the lady? The medical examiner said it was a heart attack but how severe of one was it. If if was like the one my grandfather had, he could have fallen on a surgeons table and he still would have been dead. He was gone in a matter of moments. I just dont see how anyone not involved can say that it was preventable. I just read she had a doctor on board the aircraft working on her. The way I see it, it was just her time to go. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Thanks Mike. Is that the minimum for dispatch or is that total on board? If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

I got just the tools for the job! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

I dont call them green metal. We call them POB's. You just out to bust my balls today or what? If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

It's just paint to indicate what they are for. The new bottles we have are actually composite now instead of the metal bottles. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

It's not that high but the effect could still have been the same. A change in altitude and pressure might have been the right recipe for her heart failure. I am not a Doc so who knows. My opinion is if her medical condition was that bad she should not be flying anyway. Thats just me. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Maybe. They might be supplied by us. I dont know. I have never issued one out or had to deal with one. Thats not our side of the house. Just the small POB's in the PAX cabin and the big one below for the flight crew is all we deal with. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Looks like a great time. Which bar was that at? If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Maybe different airlines have different rules but I have seen PAX boarding with tubes in their nose and some weird looking box either on a strap on their shoulder or on a little roller cart. Like I said the only O2 that I know of is the emergency bottles on board. The green bottles that says "Aviators Breathing Oxygen" on it. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Yes they do. how do they know they were empty, other than the woman saying she was not getting any? It sounds more like a heart condition that finally caught up to her. *** I just read the doctor in New York said it was a heart attack. It's a real shame but thats life. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

3 One was when I was a customer on a Delta flight. 1 about a year ago when a elderly man passes on one of our inbound international flights and the one about 2 weeks ago. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Step 4. Clean up the messy area on the floor from the deceased. We had one a little over 2 weeks ago that still haunts me. It was the worst one I have seen! From what I read they ended up calling a Haz-Mat team to start the clean up then the plane went to our heavy check facility to get a bunch more clean up done. It is not a pleasant job. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Yeah, but the clean up of a deceased body on an airplane can be messy and very expensive. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

PAX can carry their own O2. There is a bunch or crap they have to do like call the airline, doctors note and some other stuff but they can bring there own if they need it for travel. The bottles on board are for emergency use only. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Yes it is. POB's are on board for emergency use. AED's are also required to be on board. As for both bottles being empty I find that a little fishy. We can have an empty bottle on board. Lets say a flight was going to BFE where no maintenance was available and they used a bottle going there. We can place that bottle on what they call an MEL to get the plane back to us so we can service it. As for how many bottles can be empty depends on plane type and what the MEL book says. Besides, if I understand the article it was an A300. There is more than 2 bottles on that size of a plane. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

So he plans on standing on a street corner and talk to anyone who passes him? Does he not see how crazy this looks and how he has 0 chance of winning? If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

The McCain kinda surprises me a little. The M-44 doesnt surprise me one bit. From what I have heard I bet me, you, and hell even John Rich could go to a range and be good friends. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

Thats one of my points in my OP. I see how much of a circle jerk security is at the airport I work at. I should take some pictures of the airport police sleeping in dark corners in the middle of the night and post it. You would not believe the stuff I see on a daily basis. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

WOW! Just what I was thinking. Glad to see we agree on one thing in this world. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

I would love to hear what company is financing him. I cannot see what corporation would give this asshat any money. If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

I would love to sit at the end of a runway with a box of popcorn and find out. Wanna join me? It would be one hell of a show! If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!