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Well, the "Tailgates for Nationals" thread brings up an interesting dilemma. Just how many DZ's have the luxury of a tailgate aircraft that teams could train from this season? Or have a DZ close enough to make driving the distance worth it? Only ones I can think of (this late at night) are: 1)Perris 2)Eloy 3)CSS 4)? Add to the list... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

I never said that. I just said it would make my strategy -easier- ('cause like, there ain't no choices involved -- dig?). Sorry, did I forget the face? Got some beautiful video of the World Games '97 when they exited out of the Mi8 helicopter. Looks awesome! Think they'd dare bring tailgates to our Nat's when alot of the DZ's in which teams train wouldn't have access to them? What there's Perris, Eloy, CSS....wonder just -how- many DZ's sport CASA's and SkyVans. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Oh the pleasures of having a tailgate at Perris, huh!

It was a FANTASTIC grin that you had after that one, girl! Not sure if it was more for the 2000th jump or the added bonus of -not- getting 135 JFTC pies in the face! Either way, congratulations...and um, skybytch....when she least expects it... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

We have a vendor that brings 3 dozen Krispy Kreme donuts (all varieties) to our office once a week. Hits us mid-morning usually and WOW, do they get devoured! Great mid-day snack!!

Yes, well, what if the tracker was doing something a bit more (or alot more) steep than the most horizontal and perfect track? I've seen, as I'm sure you have as well, trackers that do more of a dive strategy. What would -that- do to the forces? Mathmatically. Additionally, I've personally seen a Stiletto-135 that was ripped clean in two after a cameraman opened (after filming a tandem). DZ elevation was sea level. Slider was correctly unstowed. He always rolls the nose when packing. Wing loading 1.37:1. The opening was so hard that it nearly knocked my friend completely out. Luckily it didn't and he was able to successfully land his reserve. His jump numbers? Over 10,000. He didn't jump for over a month as his neck healed. I know this might be one in a million, but would a scenario like this give a bit more credence to a track helping to cause an opening of unusually severe forces? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Having jumped at Harvey Airfield, I'm glad to hear that these 8 radio antennas most likely will fail in their bid to be built near this skydiving center....however do you think that if they are approved will it lead to BASE in the area?? See: Snohomish ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

I have a friend who's wife bought him this for his birthday one year! He's already a pilot but loved this ALOT!! Wow, what a wife!!! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Awesome story, Brent! Fantastic pics too! Thanks for sharing. Glad Joe and Carl are okay. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Thanks for the info, Bill. Glad to hear Joe and Carl are o.k.! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

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Met Jack on Sunday, and yeah he's a great guy! Glad to have him onboard here at Perris. Atlantis' loss, our gain. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Ummm....did an unplanned 'cross-country' on jump#48. Cessna-182 that took ~30 minutes to climb to altitude... Ground winds picked up considerably on the way up... Flying borrowed student gear--Goliath-378 (loaded at .38:1) ... Opened East(downwind) of the DZ (boogie in a farmer's field)... Couldn't penitrate the prevailing winds... Landed 2 miles downwind, in the -only- clearing around, but by a house under construction with powerlines and broken pallets all around. Lessons learned! Bought my own canopy soon thereafter... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

So you were around Viking tonight? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Great to meet you too, Andrea! Apologies for arriving to the party so late today. Next time I'll just have to leave my Saturday night party a little earlier than 2AM! OJ? Yeah, it's the best isn't it? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Guess I'm just very fortunate that my co-workers, friends and family all want to hear what's happened over my weekend. It's kind of a crack-up when I go to work and the first words out of their mouths (after the morning greetings) is "So how many jumps did you do this weekend?" When I share how awesome it was, they hang on every word. All are supportive and alot are jealous of the fun. About 50% want to try it themselves! Of course, my co-workers are young and adventurous themselves. That helps.

Thanks for the update, Bill. Been wondering how the weather was treating the boogie. It's raining at Perris but the forecast is better here tomorrow as well. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

copied from rec. This report states George was found in his bedroom. Other reports, basement. Whichever it is, George is a hero that I will remember for a very long, long time. ltdiver ----------------------------------------------------------- Thursday, November 7, 2002 101-year-old knew how to jump for joy Sky diver made Guinness Book of Records By M.L. LYKE SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER EVERETT -- Days before his death, 101-year-old George Salyer was still talking about his next big jump. The feisty sky diver, who made the Guinness Book of Records for a tandem jump on his 91st birthday, was killed in a fire early Sunday. The fire, called in about 6:25 a.m., had engulfed Mr. Salyer's home by the time firefighters arrived, and flames prevented them from entering. Mr. Salyer was found in the bedroom. Relatives yesterday described Mr. Salyer as a fun-loving adventurer who knew the secret to good health and long life: oatmeal. His granddaughter, Cathy Little, said Mr. Salyer loved to see the expressions on people's faces when he told them he was 101. "His favorite waitresses -- he'd get hugs from them," she said. He was proud to still have his driver's license and live on his own, and he was full of plans. Those plans included more dives. "He said he would sign anything, and pay any insurance, just to jump again," Little said. Mr. Salyer was born June 18, 1901, the year Theodore Roosevelt was sworn in as U.S. president. It was two years before Orville Wright flew 120 feet in an "air machine" and six years before Henry Ford rolled out the $850 Model T Ford. Mr. Salyer grew up in Durango, Colo., where he remembered skiing over the tops of trees when snow blanketed the town. Always mechanically minded, he worked at designing and building tools for The Boeing Co., retiring in the 1960s. He was an accomplished pilot who owned more than a dozen planes. Little said he once commented, "Why would you want to jump out of a good, working airplane?" But sky diving became Mr. Salyer's passion. His first dive was on his 88th birthday. "He always said that the first one was better than the second -- because the second time, you know what's coming," Little said. He celebrated every birthday after that first jump with more dives, from about 12,000 feet. He sometimes talked members of his large family into joining him up high. In 1995 his family set a record for a multigenerational jump with Mr. Salyer, his 71-year-old son, a 40-year-old grandson and a 15-year-old great-grandson. Daughter-in-law Jo Salyer said Mr. Salyer thrived on the media attention the dives drew. "He always wanted to be sure the TV people would be there to take his picture," she said. "That really made him happy." On Mr. Salyer's last jump a few years back, he had to take oxygen to help him get his breath. Relatives said that, despite a weakening physique, he would have kept jumping if his sky-diving partner hadn't had a stroke and lost his license. "No one else wanted to take the responsibility," Jo Salyer said. Mr. Salyer is survived by two sons, George and Robert Salyer; and a daughter, Eleanor Beagle. He had 11 grandchildren, 25 great-grandchildren and four great-great grandchildren. He is also survived by the cat Mr. Salyer called Tommy and his veterinarian called Morris. P-I reporter M.L. Lyke can be reached at 425-252-2215 or m.l.lyke@seattlepi.com Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

A little more information on the Sentinel. My student days back in 1996 were with a Wonderhog rig with a Sentinel AAD. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Don't know the answer to that one. However, my thinking is that since he was found in the basement, he was thinking -how- to get away from the smoke and went to the lowest position possible. He was a smart cookie and would probably think like that. George used oxygen 24/7 (for breathing) so I -know- he wasn't playing with anything that could spark a fire around him. I'm sure that it started elsewhere, out of his control. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Who should our first nomination be? Adopting a proposal from the Turkish Aeronautical Association (THK), the 95th FAI General Conference 2002 held in October approved the creation of a new FAI Medal, the “Sabiha Gökçen Medal”, which will be awarded to women performing the most outstanding achievements in any air sport. Full texts and Internet links available below. Original text in English available in MS-Word format at : http://www.fai.org/press_releases/2002/071102_gc4_gokcen.doc; in French : http://www.fai.org/press_releases/2002/071102_gc4_gokcenf.doc; HTML text, links and pictures available at : http://www.fai.org/news_archives/fai/000146.asp#000146 Jean-Marc BADAN Promotional Manager Fédération Aéronautique Internationale Avenue Mon-Repos 24 CH-1005 LAUSANNE Switzerland FAI - The World Air Sports Federation Tel: +41 21 345 1070 Fax: +41 21 345 1077 Email: jmb@fai.org Website : http://www.fai.org A FAI MEDAL RESERVED FOR WOMEN By approving the creation of a new FAI General Award, the 95th FAI General Conference held in October in Dubrovnik not only recognised a life dedicated to aviation, but also gave FAI its first medal reserved for women performing the most outstanding achievements in any air sport, the Sabiha Gökçen Medal. FAI MEDALS AND DIPLOMAS The purpose of FAI Medals and Diplomas is to give public recognition to those who have made outstanding contributions to aeronautics and astronautics, especially in the field of sporting aviation. Including the new Sabiha Gökçen Medal, ten general FAI Medals and Diplomas may be awarded at the discretion of the FAI Vice Presidents. The oldest and most prestigious medals are : The FAI Gold Air Medal : established in 1924, this medal is reserved for those who have contributed greatly to the development of aeronautics. Among other celebrities, Capt Charles “Chuck” Yeager (USA/1947), Sir Geoffrey de Havilland (GBR/1961) and Mrs Sabiha Gökçen (TUR/1990) received the FAI Gold Air Medal. The De La Vaulx Medal : created in 1933, this Medal is awarded to all holders of recognised absolute World Records. J. Steven Fossett (USA/1995-1997-1998) is the fifth aviator to enter the exclusive group of people who received three De La Vaulx Medals. The Louis Bleriot Medal : established in 1936, this Medal is awarded to holders of the highest records for speed, altitude and distance in a straight line by light aircraft. In 2000, the Medal was awarded to Hans Georg Schmid (SUI) for the Around the World flight he completed with his Long-Ez. Apart from these General Awards, 28 other FAI Medals and Diplomas for Individual Disciplines are at the disposal of Air Sport or Technical Commissions to be awarded in recognition of particular sporting performances or achievements. Interesting links : FAI Awards at http://www.fai.org/awards/ / Biographies of recipients named above at http://www.fai.org/news_archives/fai/000146.asp Lausanne, 7 November 2002 Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

George Salyer Inventor, Guiness World Record Holder, and all around fantastic guy. You will be missed... ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Have fun for me, Bill, Amy and Molly! (weather, what weather?) Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Watch out for the forecast! Say it isn't so! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon

Man, this sucks! I knew George from Snohomish and was there when he jumped with Jamey for the last time. I have a copy of the fantastic video here. Thanks for posting this. Blue Skies, George! I'll always remember your quick wit and smile. Courage to your family, too, during this tragic loss. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon