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I did not say it was a military thing young lady. The point was that I have experience being a leader. In order to be a good one you need to be able to segregate your feelings about people you do not like and do what is proper. It has nothing to do with being human. A TRUE LEADER CAN DO THIS! Now I understand you do not feel well so take some meds, and a nap then come read it again when you feel better. I only say this because you have said that you do not feel well and admitted yourself that you cannot concentrate on work. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Nyquill, SOCO, and rest. Lots of rest. Eat minimal. Always worked for me when I was on active duty. Then again the running thing I had to do probably helped as well. Run 5+ miles aday and a cold cannot stay in your body. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

NOt necessarily there Vallerina. There are definitely some personal issues out there. If they cannot separate themselves from it then they should not be Moderators. I can say this from experience as I have had several leadership responsibilities in the Military. You cannot get along with everyone. Just don't use your power to put someone down. That is a weak way of handling things. True Bill; but don't have a problem with what someone says because you do not know them personally. That is part of the point of this thread. You have also been around long enough to know that most will not stay in the sport. I personally try to do anything I can to help people. The people who know me understand that I love to have a good time. Some don't understand a good time because they have lived a sheltered life though. That could possibly be the issue with some people on here. Even the moderators. I have no idea since I do not know everyone on a personal level. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Who is stressing. I find it funny since most will not amount to much in the sport or contribute much of anything. This is the only place that they actually have a say in anything. Although a couple know a bunch about the sport most do not. Most are one break away from quitting. I; like a couple of moderators have been around long enough to see it happen. Those individuals never survive the sport. Meaning they stop skydiving eventually. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

It is something that perverted disgusting guys came up with to do to a girl since they cannot get a woman on the ground to give them a kiss! It means nothing unless the two are intimate and plan a special moment in the dive or something. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

No problem at all little lady. It was a piece of cake. Any time you need some help like that just give a shout. I keep a ton of stuff in the back of my truck for emergencies. What do you expect? This is the country. I tried to tell ya to drop it off before you went to the tunnel. Did you listen though? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I have been living in the country most of my life. I know how places move. No one is in a rush to get things done. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

I would have to say that this statement is incorrect. Do you know all of the Greenies personally? I know two personally and have met one other. I may have met more and do not know. I do know of a particular instance where the Greenie deleted something because even though it was in good fun they personally did not like it. That is just the WRONG ANSWER!!!!!!!!!! I know Phree personally and he is a great guy and takes it all in good fun. I am not going after you in any way. It was just easy to make the point with the thread that was started and another that I could find relatively quickly.

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=898604;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread Now I know that all this is in good fun. The problem is that who decides when it is not fun anymore? The Greenies? I mean if it does not bother the individual it is directed at why should someone else make the decision for them? I mean here we have a post which could definitely be taken the wrong way even with the smiley faces. Yet a similiar post in Talk Back has been locked today. Both have technically broken the rules of the forum but only one was locked. Here is another example: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=857969;search_string=Dirt%20on%20Phreezone;#857969 Then again a greenie started it so that is O.K. Yet I have had some things deleted which were far from offensive but because someone was slightly offended they got deleted. I guess you have to be on the in crowd of DropZone.com. What a Shame. I don't read have of the posts on here so I cannot judge them all. I have seen that strong opinions get stopped though. I mean when someone calls someone a "Dope" and gets banned that is just silly and childish. Only because most of ya'll have not even met him he is wrong. I am not defending what he says on here just that certain individuals are easily offended by some of the things he says and the fact he is not known well gets banned. If ya'll knew him it would not bother you. Is not making fun of the same as attacking in a way? I have been called on a attack via PM by a Greenie and quickly corrected it because they were right. Then again some things get deleted without so much as an explaination. If it is blatent I understand but I have had posts made in jest deleted because it bothered a Greenie and they had the power to do so. The people who saw it knew it was not offensive at all or demeaning. The point is that if there is going to be a rule then stick to it. making fun of and attacking pretty much fall in the same category. Don't get me wrong I am all for fun things. I have been in the Military for over 15 years and you had better develop a thick skin because the razzing in the military is high. Most on here probably could not handle it. Everyone Have a Nice Day!

You definitely would not be driving for nothing. Anyway if you live in Orlando the drive would almost be shorter. It takes me about an hour to get to Orlando. Not to mention the drive is much nicer because there is not much traffic on our side as there is going to and from Deland.

This time of year the planes are flying 7-Days a week. In the Summer Tuesday & Wednesday are the off days for staff to go scuba diving or something. There are definitely people to jump with right now. Foreigners are travelling in and out on a regular basis. I see from your avatar that you must Free-Fly. Well we have Colon Berry here. There are always people to Free-Fly with. I am not going to guarantee anything but fun. The people are great. If you get a hold of Pip or Judy at the DZ. They have travel trailers for rent. Get on the web-page and e-mail TK. He can get you in contact with them. Don't be like Dove. Lack of planning = flat tire! We took good care of her though!

Buy Used and something that you can learn from and make minor mistakes without killing yourself or others. It will probably not be the colors you want or anything but who cares? As long as it is in decent condition and has a little life to it. You can find some good used rigs out there from people who are downsizing. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Nope. NOt that I know of anyway. Ask your current subscriber for the minimum Cointract and a new phone and they may be able to cut a deal on the phone. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Join a Mission Group and you will see why AMERICA is Great! Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Just got back from the hospital and seeing Jerry. He seems to be in good spirits. He was telling some of his good ole stories.

I am just trying to send you mental images of nice warm thoughts. I know it has been rather chilly there. I also wanted to let you know that you were missing a damn good party. Lots of fun stuff going on. Even though the weather is not the greatest they still got 12+ loads up yesterday. Some even went to altitude. Of course I was not there during the day. I am fortunate enough to live here and do not have to jump in inclement weather. I just hope the people that drove a long way to make it here thought that it was worth their while. It sure seemed like everyone was having fun last night. See ya in March Silly Kid! Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

WHY? . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Do you work? . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Thanks for the Up Close Update Bill. I wish I could be there. Be careful with the Hypoxia. I had to save someone last year when I was LO for a High altitude at the Easter Boogie. Be Safe and All The success Ya'll can have. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

There will be a ton of DZ.Commers there. Look for the Bomb Squad on the left rear corner of the deck. A few of us will be there. See Ya there. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4080117/ This is a sad & amazing story. One many of ya'll need to read and think for a minute. Especially those who are always asking for vibes on the smallest of things in your life. This was a tiny child who found a way to survive for 5-Days in the cold trying to cuddle up to her dead Mother. Hopefully this little girl does not have to remember this tragedy in her life. This is definitely an example of a will to live. A Natural Instinct. If you want it enough you can survive just about anythything. Next time you get a Boo Boo think of this small child and her ability to finad a way to survive. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Dolphins for their ability to swim gracefully through the ocean and the ability to kill sharks. I do not like Sea World becuase they contain natures creatures of the Sea! I have had the fortune of being able to swim with wild dolphins. The Bald Eagle. Not only because it is a symbol of our Nations Freedom but the ability to see sharply and quietly attack its prey. It is on top of all other birds in the sky. Python's or snakes in general. The reason being is that they rarely need to eat. A very lethargic animal just roaming within its territory. I could go on I am sure but these are a few of the animals which I like. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

I don't have to think! I have JUMPED IT!!!!!!!!! Bene's of living in FL! It was very nice. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Hey Kallend it must be hot over there in Thailand. You would prefere "B" in hot weather. How is it going over there? Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

I would have to agree since I have been on several organized loads where much of the time is wasted with Diarrhea of the Mouth instead of the actual planning of the dive. When the experience is there then Plan "B" should be easily acceptable for a working skydive. Tell me where I need to be and I will be there. Line it up and Go! Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES

Method "A" is definitely better. It gives the organizer time to evaluate the individuals and ask people their preference on exit. Then the dive can be built for success. You are always going to have slackers. You just have to tell the the deal. Hell I have been guilty of it myself. Yeah because freeflyers don't organize anything. Just look at the center of parachutist 'January' That did not require any organization at all. Oh yeah you have to be a certain skill level to be on an organized dive. Laters, . The REAL KRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMER! "HESITATION CAUSES DEATH!!!" "Be Slow to Fall into Friendship; but when Thou Art in, Continue Firm & Constant." - SOCRATES