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>I guarentee that alcohol is the cause of more birth defects than mercury poisoning. This is a hugely serious issue - it's a pity you turned it into a political tool. I don't know if this is true or not, but few would argue that the government should be working to make alcohol MORE available to pregnant women, or to REMOVE the warning labels and posters addressing alcohol consumption during pregnancy (except perhaps the alcohol industry lobby). But that is EXACTLY what is happening with this administration - DRASTICALLY WEAKENING environmental regulations designed to protect our health and the health of our children, all for the benefit of the wealthy polluters (and surprise! - heavy GOP contributors) >Nuts to your political posturing. Whatever. If the below is "posturing", then I feel compelled to posture and educate and bring out the TRUTH and try to change a few minds and do whatever I can to get this piece of shit out of office for the sake of our and our children's health, among many other reasons. I'll say again:

God's Total Quality Management Questionnaire God would like to thank you for your belief and patronage. In order to better serve your needs, He asks that you take a few moments to answer the following questions. 1. How did you find out about your Deity? ___ Newspaper ___ Bible ___ Torah ___ Book of Mormon ___ Koran ___ Divine inspiration ___ Dead Sea Scrolls ___ My mama done tol' me ___ Near-death experience ___ Near-life experience ___ National Public Radio ___ Tabloid ___ Burning shrubbery ___ Other (specify): _____________ 2. Which model Deity did you acquire? ___ Yahweh ___ Father, Son & Holy Ghost [Trinity Pak] ___ Jehovah ___ Jesus ___ Krishna ___ Zeus and entourage [Olympus Pak] ___ Odin and entourage [Valhalla Pak] ___ Allah ___ Satan ___ Gaia/Mother Earth/Mother Nature ___ None of the above; I was taken in by a false god 3. Did your God come to you undamaged, with all parts in good working order and with no obvious breakage or missing attributes? __ Yes ___ No If not, please describe the problems you initially encountered here. Please indicate all that apply: ___ Not eternal ___ Finite in space/Does not occupy or inhabit the entire universe ___ Not omniscient ___ Not omnipotent ___ Not infinitely plastic (incapable of being all things to all creations) ___ Permits sex outside of marriage ___ Prohibits sex outside of marriage ___ Makes mistakes (Geraldo Rivera, Jesse Helms) ___ Makes or permits bad things to happen to good people ___ When beseeched, doesn't stay beseeched ___ Requires burnt offerings ___ Requires virgin sacrifices ___ Plays dice with the universe 4. What factors were relevant in your decision to acquire a Deity? Please check all that apply. ___ Indoctrinated by parents ___ Needed a reason to live ___ Indoctrinated by society ___ Needed focus on whom to despise ___ Imaginary friend grew up ___ Graduated from the tooth fairy ___ Hate to think for myself ___ Wanted to meet girls/boys ___ Fear of death ___ Wanted to piss off parents ___ Needed a day away from work ___ Desperate need for certainty ___ Like organ music ___ Need to feel morally superior ___ Thought Jerry Falwell was cool ___ My shrubbery caught fire and told me to do it 5. Have you ever worshipped a Deity before? If so, by which false god were you fooled? Please check all that apply. ___ Mick Jagger ___ Rajanish ___ Baal ___ The almighty dollar ___ Bill Gates ___ Left-wing liberalism ___ The radical right ___ Ra ___ Beelzebub ___ Barney T.B.P.D. ___ The Great Spirit ___ The Great Pumpkin ___ The sun ___ Elvis ___ Cindy Crawford ___ The moon ___ TV news ___ Burning shrubbery ___ Other: ________________ 6. Are you currently using any other source of inspiration in addition to God? Please check all that apply. ___ Tarot ___ Lottery ___ Astrology ___ Television ___ Fortune cookies ___ Ann Landers ___ Psychic Friends Network ___ Dianetics ___ Palmistry ___ Playboy and/or Playgirl ___ Self-help books ___ Sex, drugs, rock and roll ___ Biorhythms ___ Alcohol ___ Bill Clinton ___ Tea leaves ___ EST ___ CompuServe ___ Mantras ___ Jimmy Swaggert ___ Crystals (not including Crystal Gayle) ___ Human sacrifice ___ Pyramids ___ Wandering in a desert ___ Burning shrubbery ___ Barney T.B.P.D. ___ Barney Fife ___ Other:___________ 7. God employs a limited degree of divine intervention to preserve the balanced level of felt presence and blind faith. Which would you prefer? (circle one) a. More divine intervention b. Less divine intervention c. Current level of divine intervention is just right d. Don't know ... What's divine intervention? 8. God also attempts to maintain a balanced level of disasters and miracles. Please rate on a scale of 1 to 5 his handling of the following (1 unsatisfactory, 5 excellent): Disasters: 1 2 3 4 5 flood 1 2 3 4 5 famine 1 2 3 4 5 earthquake 1 2 3 4 5 war 1 2 3 4 5 pestilence 1 2 3 4 5 plague 1 2 3 4 5 spam 1 2 3 4 5 AOL 1 2 3 4 5 American Politics 1 2 3 4 5 Corporate Ownership 1 2 3 4 5 Jerry Lewis Miracles: 1 2 3 4 5 rescues 1 2 3 4 5 spontaneous remissions 1 2 3 4 5 stars hovering over jerkwater towns 1 2 3 4 5 crying statues 1 2 3 4 5 water changing to wine 1 2 3 4 5 walking on water 1 2 3 4 5 VCRs that set their own clocks 1 2 3 4 5 Saddam Hussein still alive 1 2 3 4 5 getting any sex whatsoever 9. Do you have any additional comments or suggestions for improving the quality of God's services? (Attach an additional sheet if necessary.) If you are able to complete the questionnaire and return it to one of our conveniently located drop-off boxes by December 31, you will be entered in the "One Free Miracle of Your Choice" drawing (chances of winning are approximately one in 6.023 x 10^23, depending on number of beings entered).

There is still time to make a comment on this issue to the EPA: Environmental Protection Agency Ariel Rios Building 1200 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20460 (202) 272-0167 You can submit comments directly online at http://www.epa.gov/edocket Find the "Submit Comments" link - this issue is docket OAR-2002-0056

Founded on religion? Maybe in the sick, twisted hopes and dreams of some. But thankfully NOT for the ones who really mattered. Try reading some direct quotes from a few of the "Founding Fathers" themselves (with references): John Adams: "I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved--the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"--John Adams in a letter to Thomas Jefferson "But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legaends, hae been blended with both Jewish and Chiistian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed.--John Adams in a letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816, _2000_Years_of_Disbelief_, John A. Haught "The divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity. Nowhere in the Gospels do we find a precept for Creeds, Confessions, Oaths, Doctrines, and whole carloads of other foolish trumpery that we find in Christianity." --John Adams Benjamin Franklin "Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."--Benjamin Franklin, _Poor_Richard_, 1758 "The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason."--Benjamin Franklin, _Poor_Richard_, 1758 "I cannot conceive otherwise than that He, the Infinite Father, expects or requires no worship or praise from us, but that He is even infinitely above it." -- Benjamin Franklin, _Articles_Of_Belief_and_Acts_of_Religion_, Nov.20, 1728 "I wish it (Christianity) were more productive of good works ... I mean real good works ... not holy day keeping, sermon-hearing ... or making long prayers, filled with flatteries and compliments despised by wise men, and much less capable of pleasing the Deity." -- Benjamin Franklin , _Works_ Vol.VII, p.75 "If we look back into history for the character of the present sects of Christianity, we shall find few that have not in turns been persecutors and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in Pagans, but practiced it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England blamed persecution on the Roman church, but preactied i on the Puritans. They found it wrong in Bishops, but fell into the practice both here (England) and in New England"--Benjamin Franklin, _Poor_Richard_, 1758 "When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obliged to call for help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one." -- Benjamin Franklin, _2000_Years_of_Disbelief_ by James A. Haught "Religion I found to be without any tendency to inspire, promote, or confirm morality, serves principally to divide us and make us unfriendly to one another."--Benjamin Franklin Thomas Jefferson "Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds are serviley crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God, because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blind faith." -- Thomas Jefferson "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."--Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association on Jan. 1, 1802, _The_Writings_of_Thomas_Jefferson_Memorial_Edition_, edited by Lipscomb and Bergh, 1903-04, 16:281 "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg."--Thomas Jefferson, _Notes_on_Virginia_, _Jefferson_the_President:_First_Term_1801-1805_, Dumas Malon, Boston: Little Brown and Company, 1970, p. 191 "...no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship ministry or shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief, but all men shall be free to profess and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion, and that the same shall in no wise.. affect their civil capacities."--Thomas Jefferson, _Statute_for_Religious_Freedom_, 1779, _The_Papers_of_Thomas_Jefferson_, edited by Julron P. Boyd, 1950, 2:546 "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical."--Thomas Jefferson, _Statute_for_Religious_Freedom_, 1779, _The_Papers_of_Thomas_Jefferson_, edited by Julron P. Boyd, 1950, 2:545 "...our civil rights have no dependance on our religious opnions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry"--Thomas Jefferson, _Statute_for_Religious_Freedom_, 1779, _The_Papers_of_Thomas_Jefferson_, edited by Julron P. Boyd, 1950, 2:545 "I consider the government of the United States as interdicted by the Constitution from intermeddling with religious institutions, their doctrines, discipline, or exercises."--Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Samuel Miller, 1808 "I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another."--Thomas Jefferson to Elbridge Gerry, 1799, _The_Writings_of_Thomas_Jefferson_Memorial_Edition_, edited by Lipscomb and Bergh, 1903-04, 10:78 "I know it will give great offense to the clergy, but the advocate of religious freedom is to expect neither peace no forgiveness from them."--Thomas Jefferson to Levi Lincoln, 1802, _The_Writings_of_Thomas_Jefferson_Memorial_Edition_, edited by Lipscomb and Bergh, 10:305 "No religious reading, instruction or exercise, shall be prescribed or practiced [in the elementary schools] inconsistent with the tenets of any religious sect or denomination."--Thomas Jefferson, Elementary school Act, 1817, _The_Writings_of_Thomas_Jefferson_Memorial_Edition_, edited by Lipscomb and Bergh, 10:305 "(When) the (Virginia) bill for establishing religious freedom, the principles of which had, to a certain degree, been enacted before, I had drawn in all the latitude of reason & right. It still met with opposition; but, with some mutilations in the preamble, it was finally passed; and a singular proposition proved that it's protections of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantel of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohametan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination."--Thomas Jefferson, from his autobiography, 1821, _The_Writings_of_Thomas_Jefferson_Memorial_Edition_, edited by Lipscomb and Bergh, 1:67 "Question with boldness even the existence of God; because if there be one, He must approve the homage of Reason rather than that of blindfolded Fear." -- Thomas Jefferson in a letter to Peter Carr, Aug. 10, 1787, _2000_Years_of_Disbelief_ by James A. Haught "Christianity...(has become) the most perverted system that ever shone on man. ...Rogueries, absurdities and untruths were perpetrated upon the teachings of Jesus by a large band of dupes and imposters led by Paul, the first great corrupter of the teaching of Jesus." --Thomas Jefferson, _Six_Historic_Americans_ by John E. Remsberg "I have recently been examining all the known superstitions of the world, and do not find in our particular superstition [Christianity] one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology."--Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Short, _Six_Historic_Americans_ by John E. Remsberg "Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned, yet we have not advanced one inch towards uniformity [of opinion]. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites."--Thomas Jefferson, _Notes_on_the_State_of_Virginia_(1781-85), _Oxford_Dictionary_of_Quotations_ "The proscribing any citizen as unworthy the public confidence by laying upon him an incapacity of being called to offices of trust and emolument unless he profess or renounce this or that religious opinion is depriving him injuriously of those priviledges and advantages to which, in common with his fellow citizens, he has a natual right."--Thomas Jefferson, _Statute_for_Religious_Freedom_, 1779, _The_Papers_of_Thomas_Jefferson_, edited by Julron P. Boyd, 1950, 2:546 "The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving mankind and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ." -- Thomas Jefferson "I contemplate with soveriegn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof', thus building a wall of separation between church and State."--Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT. _The_Complete_ Jefferson_ by Saul K. Padover, pp 518-519 "History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."--Thomas Jefferson to Baron von Humboldt in 1813, _The_Writings_of_Thomas_Jefferson_Memorial_Edition_, edited by Lipscomb and Bergh, 14:21 "All persons shall have full and free liberty of religious opinion; nor shall any be compelled to frequent or maintain any religious institution."--Thomas Jefferson, 1776 James Madison "Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other sects?" -- James Madison, _A_Memorial_ and_Remonstrance, addressed to the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of VA, 1795 "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." -- James Madison,_A_Memorial_ and_Remonstrance, _2000_Years_of_Disbelief_ by James A. Haught "Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and all of which facilitates the execution of mischievous projects. Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise, every expanded project."--James Madison, _2000_Years_of_Disbelief_ by James A. Haught "And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in showing that religion and Government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together."--James Madison in a letter to Edward Livingston in 1822 "It may not be easy, in every possible case, to trace the line of separation between the rights of religion and the Civil authority with such distinctness as to avoid collisions and doubts on unessential points. The tendency to unsurpastion on one side or the other, or to a corrupting coalition or alliance between them, will best be guarded against by an entire abstinence of the Government from interference in any way whatsoever, beyond the necessity of preserving public order, and protecting each sect against trespasses on its legal rights by others."--James Madison, "James Madison on Religious Liberty", edited by Robert S. Alley, ISBN pp 237-238 "The Civil Government, though bereft of everything like an associated hierarchy, possesses the requisite stability and performs its functions with complete success, whilst the number, the industry, and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the TOTAL SEPARATION OF THE CHURCH FROM THE STATE."--James Madison Thomas Paine "I would not dare to so dishonor my Creator God by attaching His name to that book (the Bible)." -- Thomas Paine "Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize [hu]mankind." -- Thomas Paine, _The_Age_of_Reason_ "Of all the tyrannies that affect mankind, tyranny in religion is the worst."--Thomas Paine "I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, not by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church."--Thomas Paine, _Excerpts_from_The_Age_of_Reason:_Selected_Writings_of_Thomas_ Paine_, edited by Richard Emery Robers, NY Everybody's Vacation Publishing Co, 1945, p.342 "All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."--Thomas Paine, _The_Age_of_Reason "The adulterous connection between church and state."--Thomas Paine, from _The_Age_of_Reason_ "Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all law-religions, or religions established by law."--Thomas Paine, _The_Rights_of_Man_, 1791, ed P.S. Foner, 1945 "Here it is that the religion of Deism is superior to the Christian Religion. It is free from all those invented and torturing articles that shock our reason or injure our humanity, and with which the Christian religion abounds. Its creed is pure, and sublimely simple. It believes in God, and there it rests."--Thomas Paine, _Of_The_Religion_of_Deism_Compared_With_the_Christian_Religion_ "As priestcraft was always the enemy of knowledge, because priestcraft supports itself by keeping people in delusion and ignorance, it was consistent with its policy to make the acquisition of knowledge a real sin."--Thomas Paine, _Of_The_Religion_of_Deism_Compared_With_the_Christian_Religion_ "The age of ignorance commenced with the Christian system."--Thomas Paine, _2000_Years_of_Disbelief_, James A. Haught misc. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."--First Amendment to the U.S.A. Constitution "One of the embarrassing problems for the early nineteenth-century champions of the Christian faith was that not one of the first six Presidents of the United States was an orthodox Christian."--The Encyclopedia Brittanica, 1968, p. 420

God WAS my co-pilot, But we crashed in the mountains and I had to eat him.

Me too! Thousands of us worldwide are organizing an advocacy group to fight dyslexia ignorance and repression. Our rallying cry: Dyslexics of the world, UNTIE!

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo. You? Get out of here. Who would have thought. I know, I know - tough for you to have to see and hard for you to believe, but yes - on rare occasions, especially on hot-button issues of justice and civil/human rights, it does happen and when it does, I want to be the first to. . . HEY! You didn't really mean that, did you??? You were being sarcastic, weren't you??? Ouch.

True. And perhaps I do wrongly jump to conclusions about specific people's motivations on the issue. I'm sure there are folks who put up asinine "slippery slope" arguments about basic freedoms that are not based on sanctimonious religious morals. But in general, there sure seems to be a correlation.

http://world.honda.com/news/2003/c031216_2.html Looks like a fun commuter - and economical. Maybe they could add some bomb-bay doors?

Amazingly asinine argument against keeping two Americans from marrying, solely based on gender, which is all anyone is trying to do. Oh No! It's a slippery slope! What will it lead to?!? Ahhhhh! Must stop them!!! Get a grip! Get over it! Don't approve of gay marriage? Don't have one. Otherwise keep your grubby, religious "morals" off other people's freedoms. Sickening.

Or not. Along with a lot of other folks, I used to do stand-ups under a P/C when conditions were decent. You can flare 'em just like those new fangled square shaped things. Not sure if pulling down the rear risers on landing had an aerodynamic effect or if you were just cancelling out some of your downward speed by pulling yourself up. . . But it did work. A few times anyway. . . Careful.

Funny! So true. . .

Wow - how does that feel to say, LJ? Congrats again!

Jesus, man - no wonder they are unhappy. I looked at the site and can't understand a damn word! And that's even after I stopped looking at the pictures . . . OK - it actually looks great.

Satire?!? Oops, my bad.

I wrote that right after our exchange earlier and was truly just poking fun at both of us. If "eew" is a judgement, I certainly qualify as judgmental - not that there is anything wrong with that. . .

I'm worried a little about just portraying the honorable Senator Santorum from my narrow little liberal view, so I went out and quickly found an interview where he can more accurately explain things in his own words, along with his staunch supporter, President Bush! Straight from whitehouse.org: http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2003/042403.asp SENATOR RICK SANTORUM AND PRESIDENT BUSH CONVENE TO DISPEL THE OUTRAGEOUS LIBERAL FICTION OF GOP BIGOTRY TOWARDS FUDGE-PACKING HOMO DEVILS Statement by Senator Santorum and the President SENATOR SANTORUM: Good morning. I want to thank the President for inviting me to join him today. As you know, recent comments by yours truly, asserting not only that Americans have no Constitutional right to privacy, but also accurately comparing homos to child rapers and kin-pumpin' Mormons, have whipped up Washington's smartypants sodomite elite into a pink-codpiece-chafing snit. And though it seems increasingly likely that I may have suffered a gruesomely damaging self-inflicted political blow, I'm going to hold my ground on this one – just like the snarling little Pennsyltucky froofy dog that I am. THE PRESIDENT: It's a real pleasure to have you here, Rickos. You know, Karl and I were counting on the post-war media to forget that we can't find any Iraqi weapons or even Saddam Hussein, and remain fixated on that California Democrat who celebrated the sanctity of the American family by snuffing out his preggers wife on Jesus' birthday. Unfortunately, it would seem that the liberal-controlled Jew homo press also smells blood in the political waters, and so they're trying their queer bestest to do to you what they did to your hair styling mentor Senator Trent Lott. Well we're not gonna let it happen. That's why I called you up – so you can say your piece. SENATOR SANTORUM: I appreciate that, Mr. President. I know that you know how much it hurts when people say things about you that aren't true – like when people spew lies about your insider trading deals at Harken Energy and how you went A.W.O.L. from the National Guard because you couldn't take their drug test because of that cocaine thing, and that stuff about that underage girl and how you– THE PRESIDENT: Rickers! Ix-nay on the uth-tray! (more)

Judgment! Judgment!

How incredibly fucking tacky. You want to do this, fine - god bless the 1st amendment - Start a new fucking thread!

Wanted to help "spread the word" that there has been a fairly serious effort going on to add a new word to the language. Fun! It's largely succeeding, thanks to the web and to grassroots efforts - as a Google search or look at urbandictionary.com will plainly show. Rick Santorum is a US Senator from Pennsylvania and is the third ranking Republican(!) in the senate. The Christian Coalition has called him "A man of honor", Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said, "Rick is a consistent voice for inclusion and compassion in the Republican Party and in the Senate, and to suggest otherwise is just politics", and President Bush has called him "An inclusive man". Wow - why did they say all those nice things? It was in response to criticism of statements by Senator Santorum like these: "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual (gay) sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery," Santorum said in the interview. "You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does." At another point in the interview, Santorum said marriage is a bond between a man and a woman. "That's not to pick on homosexuality," he added. "It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be." These are but a sample of the attitudes and opinions that, besides prompting President Bush to call him "An inclusive man", have led other folks to say things about him like: "Discrimination and bigotry have no place in our society, and I believe Senator (Rick) Santorum's unfortunate remarks undermine Republican principles of inclusion and opportunity" -A Fellow GOP Senator "What a bigoted, narrow, homophobic piece of shit" -(me) Anyhoo, a columnist and author, Dan Savage, came up with the idea to honor Mr. Santorum with a NEW WORD! Here it is (NSFH - Not Safe For Homophobes): Definition: Santorum Pronunciation: san-TOR-um Function: noun Etymology: Savage Love - 05/29/03 1. The frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex. 2. Senator Rick Santorum References: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&q=santorum http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Santorum http://www.spreadingsantorum.com/index2.html http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/04/24/santorum.gays/ http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/04/22/santorum.gays/

We must either use a different dictionary or you are in denial. A lot of your statements sure sound judgmental to me. >. . . homosexual "marriage" is gasoline. Calling a statement like that a "comment" instead of a judgement tells me that the speaker sees it as a given, akin to pointing out the "truth" of the Bible, or the "word of God". It's not a given to me, and the implication that it is strikes me as quite judgmental. And arrogant. Which you are completely entitled to, but it's just hard to watch what I consider to be a backtracking denial and not "comment" on it.

gee, and i always thought it was rampant bigotry, hatred, division of the classes and oppression of the masses that would collapse our society. apparently none of that is valid and it's all about the mixing of genitals in a married pair. Funny, the only i way I can see that contributing to an anarchic collapse is by a bunch of closed-minded morons judging then and causing tension and hatred. For all the bible bangers out there fuming about homosexuals.. what even happened to letting god be the judge? and love thy neigbor? i guess those rules only apply to people who do things that YOU like and pray to YOUR god. is that how it works? >So, if social decay and societal collapse into anarchy are a fire now beginning to get out of control, homosexual "marriage" is gasoline. So I read this and am counting to 10 or maybe 100, trying to think of how to reply to such drivel, such a moronic crock of shit without a personal attack. . . So I read the next reply. Outstanding, jerm - beautifully put - thanks.

>Tell the whuffos _up the stake_ (?) I've always heard "Tell the whuffos upstate" (?)

You mention herbs, but not melatonin (natural hormone). Lots of folks highly recommend - have you tried it? Not just sleep, but really deep sleep - lots of vivid dreams. I can't say how it will work for you, but I haven't been eaten by the clown yet. . .

OK, all you web folks - flame away if you must, but I have to point out another option that MAY be a good choice. There are some people who want a simple website who would be very happy to not deal with installing and learning ANY software, let alone HTML code. There are options for template-based, walk you through step-by-step, very inexpensive, VERY easy to build/maintain site builders. For example: http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/website.asp http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/