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Ulis is saying that the ATC guy who was assigned to 305 at the time of the jump randomly reached out to him. He hasn't given many details yet. He did state that this guy is verifying that Rat said "Mark it on your shrimp boats, I think our friend just took leave of us". I'm still dubious about that quote though... This guy may be the real guy and may be telling the truth, but I'm concerned that Eric will confuse his words around the way he has done with Cliff in an effort to promote WFP. Eric is also again repeating his opinion about how absurd it is that the FBI never talked to anyone with the ATC. So what? Why would they have needed to talk to anyone with ATC when they had the Air Force map?

This is literally how you treat others. How many times have people on this forum been shocked and taken aback by how you can't take any form of disagreement. You are the least magnanimous human I've ever come across on internet forums in 25 years of messing around on forums. I've literally seen you refuse to "agree to disagree" when people have offered you that olive branch to end an argument. You MUST be right about all things. It's bizarre and its why you're universally disliked in the Vortex. It's not because people don't like your conclusions, it's your unhinged behavior in defending them.

What WOULD legitimately eliminate him in your opinion? I dare say that when we inevitably get 302's from Tina et al saying that Hahneman wasn't Cooper, you won't accept that to eliminate him. So what would? I'm not even being jerky in asking this. I'm sincerely curious.

You do realize that this is how the entire Vortex views you. I've proven to be malleable and have admitted to being wrong numerous times. You on the other hand...

No one has to lie about anything to discredit you. Your bias is apparent to everyone. You discredit yourself by having such a poor suspect. There's a reason no one else in the Vortex supports Hahneman as Cooper, and it's not because you're the only one of us who has access to super secret hidden knowledge: it's because he's a dramatically flawed suspect.

you have no idea what I've discussed with him nor what I've posted on facebook about the letters. I've said several times that I think he is overreaching when it comes to tying Ted to the letters. I can't follow that path. That always seems like a stretch. People always try to do it for some reason. Rackstraw. Braden. And apparently now Hahneman.

That's all you got? Those are not lies. Try again. I've not intentionally distorted anything. You're a cherry picker because you have confirmation bias due to your belief that you have solved this thing.

What would my bias be?

Please provide examples of me lying or making things up. And leave Hahneman's missing TEETH out of this. Give me other examples of me deliberately lying or making things up. We're not talking about my opinions here. Tell me what facts I've lied about and what facts I've made up.

This we agree on.

I don't have to distract from anything. The letters are all stupid. Idiotic to think someone who behaved as cautiously as Cooper would then be sending taunt letters. Ridiculous.

Let me guess, you found some writing of Hahneman's where he uses the word "lackey"? This is your MO with Hahneman. You go around finding bread crumbs in various things connected to the Cooper case that are similar to Hahneman and think they all came from the same cake. For example, that's the only reason you give the obviously fictional Gunther stuff any semblance of credibility. Hahneman had a scar on his left hand and so does the guy in Gunther. That must mean the book is real because Hahneman had a scar and Hahneman was Cooper. Alice Hancock said Cooper's sunglasses looked like prescription sunglasses. That must mean Alice is the best witness for the sunglasses because Hahneman wore prescription sunglasses and Hahneman was Cooper. Bill Mitchell said Cooper looked 5'9. That must mean Bill is the best witness to Cooper's height because Hahneman was 5'9 and Hahneman was Cooper. Alice Hancock and Hal Williams said Cooper had wavy hair. That must mean that they are the best witnesses to hair because one of Hahneman's witnesses said he had wavy hair and Hahneman was Cooper. *Disclaimer* Hancock and Williams are not to be trusted, however, on Cooper's height since Williams said Cooper was 6'1+ and Alice said 6'1. Robert Gregory said Cooper had marcelled hair. Gregory also said Cooper looked a quarter Mexican. That must mean he is a very astute witness because Hahneman could be described as having marcelled hair and looking part Mexican and Hahneman was Cooper. Gregory also is to be trusted because he described Cooper's glasses as "horn rimmed" and horn rimmed glasses is one way Hahneman's glasses were described. Same goes for his estimate on height. The old timer said Cooper was 5'9. He's a damn good witness. *Disclaimer* Gregory is not to be trusted, however, on Cooper's facial features because he specifically commented on the long pointy noses of Don Burnworth and John List saying they looked like Cooper's. He also commented specifically on Sheridan Peterson's very large lower lip as looking like Cooper's. Please ignore him on those things, everyone. Flo Schaffner said Cooper looked like he was from Latin descent and that Cooper looked like Donald Murphy. That must mean she's a good witness because Hahneman was of Latin descent and could have some resemblance to a particular photo of Murphy and Hahneman was Cooper. *Disclaimer* Actually, it's best you just ignore literally everything else Flo said. The FBI didn't value Flo's testimony because she was having a trauma experience...or so I've been told. So yeah, she's useless except on her Latin descent comment and her Donald Murphy selection.

Good god NO. Her dad spoke with a heavy French accent, struggled with English grammar, and was 30 years old in 1971. https://www.britishpathe.com/asset/117221/ And there is ZERO chance this is what our hijacker looked like in 1976...

Good grief. Now you believe that one of the stupid letters was real?

Well said. The grudge is highly, highly overstated by many people in this case.

Perhaps more proof that Cooper never had a designated DZ: He passes Flo the note while they are still taxiing. They've not yet taken off. Flo could've panicked and screamed or otherwise caused a scene. Cooper had no way of knowing what her reaction would be. Or what if instead of taking off when they did, they got stuck on the runway waiting to takeoff after Cooper passed the note. Thus, it's possible that all of the action could've taken place in Portland. Cooper was taking that risk by not waiting until they were airborne. Of course, if everyone became aware of the hijacking while on the ground at PDX, Cooper still could've just demanded that they take off and fly to Seattle. But still...

then perhaps you should continue sticking with musical instruments

Do you have any self awareness? You're actually claiming that it is "desperately twisted logic" to opine that eyewitnesses who saw a person standing are more likely to provide an accurate height estimation over eyewitnesses who only saw a person sitting.

Hearsay from Galen Cook. Please provide a document from the actual investigation that suggests anything of the sort.

You mean he nailed YOUR suspect's size exactly...

When would you say he was flirting? I've never really gotten that sense from him. Just seemed like he was being pleasant with the stews on a few occasions.

Benzedrine has been confirmed.

I view it moreso as evidence that Flo was no longer afraid of Cooper by that point. I can’t say I blame her. That plane could’ve been heading off to parts unknown. She needs her money and her license and all that.

I've said it a million time. It's weird that he decided to spend an hour and a half McGyvering the money bag instead of simply demanding that a knapsack be brought.

yes, he's a confounding combination of seeming to know what's he talking about at certain times but then other times he's obviously full of shit. I think about him scoffing over them not being able to take off with the stairs down. "Yes they can..." There's absolutely no way he could have known that. As far as I know the only time a 727 has ever taken off with the stairs down was during the evacuation of Da Nang in 1975 and that was obviously an emergency.