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typically, doesn't mean they aren't. Hard to refute this doc.. that back chute found on the plane is not the reserve and not the one given to Hayden. The evidence is overwhelming that a back chute found left on the plane was not the one returned to Hayden.,, the FBI may be hiding something like maybe 3 back chutes went on the plane, who knows...

It isn't a list of evidence found on the plane, the airline ticket is there labelled D... it came from NorthWest.

That doesn't make sense,, your analysis isn't comprehensive and taking into account all the info. Did you read ALL the FBI docs I posted. On one report they stated "length" that was an error. The packing card only says 24' or 26'. So, even if the "length" error is discounted there is overwelhming documentation to show that the chute found on the plane wasn't the one Hayden received. Hayden sent in 2 Pioneer back chutes both packed May 21/71.. The Pioneer found on the plane doesn't match the one given back to Hayden.. It is a different diameter, different year, different serial number, packed same date as Hayden's as noted in several files. Two Pioneer back chutes were taken into evidence, so there had to be more than 2 back chutes. Cossey claimed he sent in two of his personal chutes. It all fits. Cooper jumped with one of Cossey's chutes, likely the customized 28 ft. Some FBI files do claim Cossey owned the chute given Cooper. Finally, Cossey claimed the chute Cooper took was modified. Why would Cossey modify only one of Hayden's two chutes, a customer? makes no sense.

They name 3 chutes as in evidence, not all items on the plane in Reno, the list also includes the airline ticket obtained from NorthWest. "The following is a list of evidence obtained in this case:" ... (3 chutes named) The back Pioneer Hayden got back. The back Pioneer found on the plane which matches the packing date for Hayden's. (both the same) The opened reserve chute. Anyway you slice it there had to be more than 2 back chutes involved. 2 are accounted for and Cooper took one..

There is another thing that adds to the chute confusion.. Cooper initially asked for only two chutes.. according the FBI docs he later asked for an additional two chest chutes.. That means Tina's statement about the note she dictated here is false.. or the FBI is hiding something or very confused. I wonder if Cooper asked for two "emergency" chutes and it got misinterpreted as "chest reserve" chutes. Perhaps different people requested chutes for Cooper and four back chutes were received with two going on the plane. All I know for sure is the Pioneer back chute Hayden got back wasn't the Pioneer chute left on the plane and it didn't come from Cooper so Cossey's chutes must have been used and he wasn't a liar. The other possibility is the FBI is intentionally holding back info... they have been consistent in claiming four chutes went to Cooper, two back chutes, two front reserves with one the dummy.

According to Tina.. brown ankle length pebble grain shoes, not the tie type perhaps ankle boots?

Found another FBI document... Parachutes found on plane FBI doc page 4951 "On the floor directly in front of seat number 18D, the exterior canvas cover for a chest type parachute was observed along with the handle utilized for releasing this parachute. The label on this canvas covering indicated it to be Pack Part Number 4511876B and indicated the date of manufacture to have been October, (year illegible). The flap on this canvas exterior contained a sewn on white label with the notation SSS # 5 and COSS. This flap had also been stenciled with the name JOHNSON. An opened parachute which apparently had been removed from the canvas parachute cover described above was found spread out over seats 17C and 17B. This parachute was of a pink-orange color. On seat 18B, an unopened back type parachute was observed. A card in the pocket of this parachute reflected it to be a Conacol type parachute, number 60-9707 and made by the Pioneer Parachute Company. This card indicated it was last inspected on May 21, 1971." The Pioneer back chute 60-9707 left on the plane does not match the chute Hayden got back from the FBI.. that indicates one of Hayden's chutes was not sent to the plane and Cooper must have jumped with Cossey's chute. 1. MAKE: Pioneer TYPE: 26 ft white ripstop conical, SERIAL NO: 226, DATE OF MFR 9/57 (1957) --- packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (Hayden got this one back) 2. MAKE: Pioneer TYPE: 24 ft white ripstop conical, SERIAL NO: 60-9707, DATE OF MFR: 7/60 (1960) --- packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (This back chute was left on the plane, ID'd by National Guard in Reno)

28 ft non-steerable, winds were estimated by using/averaging over time the Portland and Salem data. Initially they thought from the W, then SSW but close to 8 PM they were ESE and were shifting to S and SSW. So, like almost everything in this case,,, ???

The crew felt oscillations at 20:12, but that it the timestamp at the end of the transmission process. So, the vent was earlier.. There was a "little bob" found on the FDR at 20:09. The numbers are rounded.. If the oscillations were Cooper jumping then he likely left between 20:09 and 20:11. But even that isn't certain. The terrain looks very survivable.

yes, of course I have two samples, you are too far ahead. I wanted to figure out if it is unique first. I am not sure.. I would never write "F.B.I" like that. If it is unique then I may have a strong link, but there are other things that suggest a link too.

Question... How rare would it be to hand write "F.B.I" with periods in between and not at the end in 1971? Is that common, normal or standard? Is it a regional convention? I would write it either "FBI" or "F.B.I." with a period after the I, but I am Canadian and have had less exposure to how "FBI" is/was hand written.

nonsense, he could have picked a different seat like on the other side of the isle. He chose that seat to have the case on his right side, he could have chosen a seat to have his left hand in the case.

Cooper was drinking, he put the case on his lap to switch to his left and drink with his right hand. MITCHELL,, "THE SUBJECT WAS NOT NOTICED UNTIL HE SPILLED A DRINK" If Cooper was left handed he would have placed the case on his left side. Using the fact that case was placed on the right side to negate a right handedness is poor logic. He likely placed it on his right and chose his seat to facilitate his use of his more dexterous right hand. Cooper was more than likely right handed.

These suggest Cooper was right handed.. he did drink and smoke while seated so he likely switched hands at times. Maybe that is why Tina lit his smokes for him... one free hand usually the left one. "when he was moving toward the aft lavatory. He was carrying the attache case on its side in his left hand with his right hand in the case." "right hand inside the briefcase at all times"

Boomshki,,, Cooper's tie was "Dacron Polyester".. many of the found tie particles match those used in the manufacturing process for Dacron.. in other words, many of those rare particles were already on the tie when new. The rare tie particle chase is a bit of a red herring. Tom Kaye needs to test another Pennys 1965 era "Dacron Polyester" clipon tie.. to determine which particles may have come from the manufacturing process. FBI file 26 p 8570 Black Snap-On Tie and Tie Tack An examination of the tie by the writers revealed noticeable amounts of dust in the inner knot area. In addition to the markings "3 Penneys”, two other labels were found as follows: "Snapper Pat. 2972750. It's a snap to snap on"; and "100% Dacron Polyester Washable RN 16484". From writers' experience in Theft From Interstate Shipment cases Penneys merchandise, it is known that the RN number is a manufacturer's code. Penneys headquarters will be able to determine where the was manufactured, when imported and which stores this tie. ---- https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/55/b8/56/ea754678a56895/US2984576.pdf Zirconia and hafnia sols or finely divided powders can be used as binding agents in a wide variety of applications. These can range from refractories in which the zirconia or hafnia serve to bind components together to plastic material in which they serve a similar function. Likewise, they can be used to bind organic acids or other organic compounds such as dyes. It is especialy effective with synthetic polyacrylonitrile fibers such as "Orlon,” 'Dacron’ polyester, and nylon polyamide types. "Generally zirconia or hafnia particles will be used with refractory metal oxides and sulfides, refractory interstitial type compounds of carbon and nitrogen intermetallics of rare earths and refractory metals. Refractory compositions including refractory metal oxides can be made with such oxides as aluminum oxide, barium oxide, beryllium oxide, calcium oxide, cerium oxide, chromic oxide, cobaltus oxide, gallium oxide, lanthanum oxide, magnesium oxide, maganese oxide MnO, maganous oxide, neodymium oxide, nickel oxide, silica niobium oxide, strontium oxide, tantalum oxide, thorium oxide, titanium dioxide and titanium suboxides such as TiO, stannic oxide, tungstic oxide, uranium dioxide, vanadium oxides, VO, VO2, VO2VO3, yttrium oxide, zinc oxide, and cadmium oxide. Of the above, zirconia and hafnia will ordinarily be used most desirably with alumina. silica, ceria, titania, magnesia, thoria and calcia."

One thing to note.. the FBI notes for the description of the two Hayden back chutes is accurate but labelled wrong. They clearly wrote it down off the packing card but the card info labels are below the line, they assumed above. In evidence custody.. Both of Hayden chutes as noted by FBI. 1. Pioneer 26 ft white ripstop conical, type 226, SN 9/57 (1957) packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (Hayden got this one back) 2. Pioneer 24 ft white ripstop conical, type 260-9707, SN 7/60 (1960) packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (This back chute was left on the plane, ID'd by National Guard) Corrected.. the info labels used should be below the line. In evidence custody.. Both of Hayden chutes. 1. MAKE: Pioneer TYPE: 26 ft white ripstop conical, SERIAL NO: 226, DATE OF MFR 9/57 (1957) --- packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (Hayden got this one back) 2. MAKE: Pioneer TYPE: 24 ft white ripstop conical, SERIAL NO: 260-9707, DATE OF MFR: 7/60 (1960) --- packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (This back chute was left on the plane, ID'd by National Guard in Reno) #1 (1957) Went back to Hayden (tan one) #2 (1960) Was left on the plane and in evidence 11/26/71 There is no way Cooper took one of the two of Hayden's back chutes. Back chute returned to Hayden (1957)..

It is not a front chute, it matches the one inspected by the National Guard in Reno.. a back one left on the plane, it was packed on May 21/71 matching Hayden's. The front reserve was packed 9/16/71. There is another FBI doc in which an FBI agent describes two back pack chutes "ordinary military olive green drab".. then later the two Hayden chutes are described, one tan and one olive drab green. Cossey's claim was both his back chutes were green. That suggests there were two sets of back packs sent. Two green and Hayden's tan and green. This explains everything.. Cossey may have made errors but he wasn't lying. Cooper must have jumped with one of his chutes.

It makes perfect sense... you just don't see it yet. Cooper didn't jump with either of Hayden's chutes.. He got the 1957 back SN 9/57 (never given to Cooper) The other was left on the plane by Cooper. SN 7/60

You completely miss the point. Hayden is being truthful and Cossey's statements are entirely irrelevant. The FBI evidence is clear, Hayden did not get returned to him the back chute that was found on the plane (1960). It was his other chute (1957). << That is what you are missing. Follow the logic from there.

You didn't read the docs very carefully, the years don't match, the type and serial numbers don't match. These things including the measurements are written on the card, the guy may have assumed length instead of diameter. However, these are the two different Hayden chutes. In evidence custody.. Both of Hayden chutes. 1. Pioneer 26 ft white ripstop conical, type 226, SN 9/57 (1957) packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (Hayden got this one back) 2. Pioneer 24 ft white ripstop conical, type 260-9707, SN 7/60 (1960) packed by Cossey 5/21/71 (This back chute was left on the plane, ID'd by National Guard) So, Hayden got back one of his chutes that never went on the plane. It doesn't really matter what Cossey says, this proves that Cooper did not jump with either of Hayden's chutes.

Basically yes... The chute Hayden got back wasn't his Pioneer found on the airplane. That means Cooper did not use either of Hayden's chutes and since Cossey had claimed he supplied 2 back chutes form his home then Cooper must have used one of Cossey's chutes. This article by Bruce gives the background.. https://themountainnewswa.net/2011/10/25/db-cooper-case-heats-up-again-with-controversy-over-parachutes/

No, I never claimed nor do I believe the belly reserve belonged to Hayden. The docs don't say that either. So, I didn't go wrong. You have everything mixed up. That FBI doc lists 3 chutes in evidence dated 11/26/71.. Hayden's two back chutes and the front reserve from Issaquah. Cooper did not jump with either one of Hayden's chutes.

You're making me laugh now.... Forget everything you think you know. Read those docs I posted very carefully. We have both of Hayden's back chutes in FBI evidence custody 11/26/71, plus the front reserve with cut lines.. Hayden got back the top one, the 26 ft 1957 one that matched the card. The FBI has the other Hayden chute, the 24 ft 1960 Pioneer found on the plane. What did Cooper jump with? You keep saying the Hayden chute,, Well, the FBI had both of them on 11/26/71.

I am referring to the FBI document posted. Not what happened afterward. Both of Hayden's back chutes were in FBI evidence custody plus the cut open reserve chute. You have this all messed up, go noodle it for a while.

You have it mixed up, the lines were not cut from that chute. That is the Hayden back chute. The packing card is correct, it is for the 1957 chute given back to Hayden, it matches the top chute in evidence custody. The other chute in evidence custody is Hayden's other back chute that was left on the plane,, get it. We have both of Hayden's chutes in evidence custody,, Cooper didn't use either of Hayden's chutes. I have found the black hole in the Vortex... it sucks in all logic and reason... Cooper used one of Cossey's chutes, there is no other explanation.