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Jo I'm not going to ignore you. Despite the silly Copyright you have in your signature line, you neither own this thread, nor the D.B. Cooper story. Plus, you decided to put yourself in the public eye by going to US News and for nearly 20 years screaming to the heavens that Duane Weber was D.B. Cooper (along with a CIA operate and such nonsense). So you're going to have to face the reality - unless they ban me, I'm not going anywhere. In fact, I was given such a nice welcome, I think I'll stick around and contribute. At the very least I'm going to vocally expose whatever flawed ideas I read about, and that includes Duane (Johnnie Collins) Weber being D.Bl Cooper. You may have been able to scare off other people with your shrill threats of PMing moderators and calling the FBI, but I bet they're about as tired of your wolf cries as I am, and I've only been around it for less than a week. While it's highly unlikely that this case will ever be solved, there are some people who would like to entertain rational discussion of actual evidence. That doesn't include your 3am rants that sound like the back of a bad novel. 'Everything hurts, her mind is fogging, will the answers ever come? Or did they die that day in 1995 with the only man that ever mattered her? The answers are in the records in Puyallup. The answers are in the vaults at the CIA!'[/quote Do you know about DNA Or handwriting DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

*** Jo I'm not going to ignore you. Despite the silly Copyright you have in your signature line, you neither own this thread, nor the D.B. Cooper story. Plus, you decided to put yourself in the public eye by going to US News and for nearly 20 years screaming to the heavens that Duane Weber was D.B. Cooper (along with a CIA operate and such nonsense). So you're going to have to face the reality - unless they ban me, I'm not going anywhere. In fact, I was given such a nice welcome, I think I'll stick around and contribute. At the very least I'm going to vocally expose whatever flawed ideas I read about, and that includes Duane (Johnnie Collins) Weber being D.Bl Cooper. You may have been able to scare off other people with your shrill threats of PMing moderators and calling the FBI, but I bet they're about as tired of your wolf cries as I am, and I've only been around it for less than a week. While it's highly unlikely that this case will ever be solved, there are some people who would like to entertain rational discussion of actual evidence. That doesn't include your 3am rants that sound like the back of a bad novel. 'Everything hurts, her mind is fogging, will the answers ever come? Or did they die that day in 1995 with the only man that ever mattered her? The answers are in the records in Puyallup. The answers are in the vaults at the CIA!'[/quote Do you know about DNA DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

It was JAN 5... can't you see? It was time to take down the tree. But I found a present.. was it for me? I could feel it was a book. But what book could it be? As I opened it.. oh yes it was for me. It was hooked on phonics. and of course.. Mark Bennett had left it for me Amazon you are BORING DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Let me quot Mark B I don't understand Paul. Sorry but sadly it was KC IT"S A DONE DEAL Handwriting and DNA don't lie and nether do Larry Carr or Curtis Eng so call them PAUL GEIVETT DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Like I said no questions about Cooper strange but thats just you As you might have surmised.... I like popcorn.... I have ZERO questions about this case... he jumped.... and entered into a legend. The case will NEVER be solved... no matter how many hallucinogenic compounds some people will injest. Those of us that have actually jumped.... jumped from jets... jumped at night.. jumped old trashy rounds..... know its survivable... its not rocket science.... it's also not going to be solved by those wishing to play pocket pool with themselves. I never said he died remember KC died in 94 ... MAN I see your still in the air after 42 years get on the ground and catch up your only 41 years and 364 day behind 23 hours and 55 minuets behind Sorry but I can't wait that long good by Any questions at all or haven you all given up like that cigaret in the street just step on it as I walk on by and keep on don't even look down DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

SEE there he is 1 DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Like I said no questions about Cooper strange but thats just you DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Will have to see but I see you have no questions about the case That list is hard to get on but give it a try PS ,,.;./';';./.,;'[;/.,....,;,' doesn't make you smart! DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Welcome do you have any questions that you would like answered and not ignored I will try my best to Sir GC 148 I don't hide DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Sir you are 100% correct I'm the worst writer here thats because I'M NOT one I was asked to post here by a man that called me Butt I have solved the case. But thats not the point I would of never written a book in my life but I had to. I was asked to write every thing I knew about that night by Larry Carr and send it to Curtis Eng so I just put a cover on it Other than solving the case part I really cant say your wrong about me but you can call me at 360 975 9601 tomorrow and you will know I'm fore real Paul geivett thanks fore your honesty I respect you fore it Sir AS fare as Bevy's book it will be a collector item soon so get an original copy. But man he doesn't like me I had to wash my hand of him on Jan 1 GC 148 THE GRAY COP PS thanks for your hospitality PS thanks for your honesty DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Too late for a 2013 Pulitzer Paul. 377 oh Man that spelling again I sent that letter addressed to PAULlitzer NOT Pulitzer see that one letter. But then again thats how I solved the case with all those misplaced letters. and that ticket GC 148 THE GRAY COP See let the otter guy check that spelling DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. My next book DB COOPER vs THE GRAY COP will be so complete All new the 23 years it took the investigation not the story of DB Cooper But the case it self more for the drop zoner more of the 70s to 1979 the real case all the meetings with the FBI MC COY and Kenneth the planting of the money Should be done by Feb 20 th I can do it in 15 hours On sale soon ondamandbooks Then JFK Osswaled vs the Gray Cop Half way done already DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. My next book DB COOPER vs THE GRAY COP will be so complete All new the 23 years it took the investigation not the story of DB Cooper But the case it self more for the drop zoner more of the 70s to 1979 the real case all the meetings with the FBI MC COY and Kenneth the planting of the money Should be done by Feb 20 th I can do it in 15 hours On sale soon ondamandbooks Then JFK Osswaled vs the Gray Cop DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. My next book DB COOPER vs THE GRAY COP will be so complete All new the 23 years it took the investigation not the story of DB Cooper But the case it self more for the drop zoner more of the 70s to 1979 the real case all the meetings with the FBI MC COY and Kenneth the planting of the money Should be done by Feb 20 th I can do it in 15 hours On sale soon DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Sorry...you are getting into research being collected for Cooperland. I said a couple of months ago that I will no longer be releasing any new information on Kenny Christiansen at Dropzone, other than the KC report available at the AB website. You'll just have to wait like everyone else. Then...you can jump all over the book if you wish. In the meantime, I have no problem with your belief he wasn't Cooper. You are entitled to that, and since at present I can't prove absolutely that he was, I have no further comment on it. My next book DB COOPER vs THE GRAY COP will be so complete All new the 23 years it took the investigation not the story of DB Cooper But the case it self more for the drop zoner more of the 70s to 1979 the real case all the meetings with the FBI MC COY and Kenneth the planting of the money Should be done by Feb 20 th I can do it in 15 hours DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

This would not matter any way befor after what's the difference It I buy a car and steal the gold after and pay it off I still payed for it with the gold or if I steal the gold and pay for it later and your point Paople that go to jail for a crime but are not charged have no recored This happens all the time DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

This would not matter any way befor after what's the difference It I buy a car and steal the gold after and pay it off I still payed for it with the gold or it I steal the gold and pay for it later and your point DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Oh...you mean AWAY from Dropzone. Let me clue you in. There are Facebook pages (restricted mostly these days due to Knoss-type posters), articles occasionally, threads galore all over the place. I don't care what goes on in those places unless I happen to take an interest. So if you have something going elsewhere, that's great and I wish you the best of luck. However...you keep claiming HERE that the flight path is wrong and you try to explain the Tina Bar money by saying 305 must have overflown Tina Bar. And that is going to be tough to prove. It is YOU, not I, who claims to be smarter and more accurate than Paul Soderlind and his team at NWA, the ATC, a couple of chase jets, radar, and the friggin' FBI. So I guess the burden of proof about that falls to you, wouldn't you say? It's funny how you always bring up 'the book' in these situations. As if Blast has anything to do with the flight path. It's mostly a series of interviews with witnesses, not a historical record of the hijacking and the investigation which followed. You want that? See Himmelsbach's book. Meanwhile, unless you come up with something substantial and provable about it, I continue to believe the map is accurate. This isn't about Kenny Christiansen and whether he was Cooper. I don't know if he was. But you are saying the FBI and those other entities I mentioned are wrong, the search was wrong, and YOU are right. That's a pretty large claim. Georger asks: 'Just in case what...' (look up into the trees just in case on a massive ground search) In case Cooper got hung up in one, LOL. What else?

And how would the judicial system deal with the flood of people that would simply claim to have been DB Cooper in order to become rich or go down in history? How would they deal with the delusional ones living out a fantasy life that might actually think they are DB Cooper? Money DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

From the sled test, and what Harold Anderson saw on the control panels, I would say the exact point when Cooper jumped was when the indicator light for the airstairs flashed off for a moment, (stairs relieved of weight, springing up and nearly closing) and then the light comes back on for good. (stairs settle to neutral position in flight) This incident is identical in both the sled test and on the actual flight of 305. 'Five to ten minutes' is a LOT. Five minutes means approximately fifteen miles through the air. If you toss in a two-mile wide path for the dropzone, well that creates a minimum search area of thirty square miles. Make it ten minutes (30 miles) than you have have a search area of sixty square miles. Cooper could have built a house out there and just walked out the next spring without being discovered. You would need tens of thousands of searchers to do sixty square miles over wooded terrain to even have a hope of fiinding anything. I have seen nothing yet that would put the flight five to six miles WEST of the Interstate 5 freeway north of Vancouver. Which is what it would have to do to overfly Tina Bar. I think the flight map is VALID. The question mainly is where along that line Cooper jumped, and that is definitely open to debate. The only way to know is to know the exact minute the indicator light did its little off and on dance. Rataczak told Skipp Porteous he kept research on the Cooper hijacking. If someone ever interviews Rataczak again, I would try to pin him down on that point. When did the light go off and then back ON. When did this happen? EDIT: There is ONE problem I do have with the map. And that is the added time plots. Some of them, as Robert99 has pointed out, don't jive with the number of miles the aircraft traveled between those points. In other words, the plane would have to be slowing down and speeding up for some of them to work. But I think the line itself is good. You want to find if there is any remaining evidence of Cooper out there? Here's one way. Take 2,000 searchers and spread them about ten feet apart on a three-to-four-mile-wide path starting at the south end of the line, but north of Vancouver. Have them take a big-ass hike about forty miles north, following the flight map line. Tell them to look up into the trees occasionally, just in case. gee Blevgins - you have recited known posted material purdy well almost - "Tell them to look up into the trees occasionally, just in case." Just in case what? (A) Just in case R99 forgot something? (B) Just in case Sluggo forgot something? (C) Just in case Nelder forgot something? (D) Just in case you get a day job? (E) Poachers are limited in what they can remember and script. (F) all of the above ...[/quote Just in briefcase DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

From the sled test, and what Harold Anderson saw on the control panels, I would say the exact point when Cooper jumped was when the indicator light for the airstairs flashed off for a moment, (stairs relieved of weight, springing up and nearly closing) and then the light comes back on for good. (stairs settle to neutral position in flight) This incident is identical in both the sled test and on the actual flight of 305. 'Five to ten minutes' is a LOT. Five minutes means approximately fifteen miles through the air. If you toss in a two-mile wide path for the dropzone, well that creates a minimum search area of thirty square miles. Make it ten minutes (30 miles) than you have have a search area of sixty square miles. Coop The plane was over the Lewis river west of Arial dam . The Capt. Said he could see the lights off the dam that night. The plane was not over the lakes. This put cooper a little south of La Center WA close to the lower Lewis river the west fork My nook is hard to post from sorry DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

When people give witness testimony, and you provide the means to VERIFY that testimony, then the answer to your problem is obvious. Interview the witnesses on your own. Providing the full report at the website certainly proves I have nothing to hide. Trust me on something. Sooner or later, someone is going to check it for accuracy. I have nothing to hide, and I am not afraid of the results. Robert, Robert, Robert. Why would I want to interview these witnesses when what I am trying to impart to you is that these witness statements are 1. probably not accurate due to the length of time for memory retrieval. 2. Self-serving 3. Full of ego-centric memory bias. Have I ever said that you lied in regards to the "witness statements"? NO. But, come on man --- What is there to verify? Susie said this and Sally agrees??? Jeez -- let's send a man to prison based on that. What you are not understanding, obviously, is that your witness statements are to be taken with basically a grain of salt, since there is no corroborating evidence to sustain. Let's put it another way. Since you obviously want to be Kenny's prosecuting attorney..... Okay .... well I think Kenny was a pretty decent guy and no way would he perpetuate as heinous a crime as to blow up a plane full of people for money. So I'm gonna be the lawyer for the defendant, Mr. Kenneth Christiansen. So you make your case. I guarantee that I can refute every fallacy that you make about my client. BRING IT ON. Reposting this for Mr. Blevins. Go back to bed, Paul. The grownups are talking now. If you want to make sense, then write a post that makes sense. Otherwise, you are going to be ignored by me. I see you can't respond but it's ok and don't want the case solved I just don't understand why the posters hear know so little about the case. But I think I know why its the float down thing it ruins it for you guys. and living next door to the ......... that took Brian down to the beach and talking to him on the beach myself. thats the only why it happened and MAX GUTHERS BOOK DB Cooper into the Funnel of Darkness the movie starring Nicolas Cage, Jennifer Anniston and Woody Harrellson... a Jerry Bruckheimer film Written by Paul Geivett

Yeah. At first we thought Kenny hiked out to Paradise Point State Park, too. But then we found out that Bernie Geestman owned property with a shop building down in Oakville, WA and that's where he parked his infamous Airstream trailer he bought at a bank repo sale six weeks before the hijacking. Instead of bringing it home to Bonney Lake. When he and Kenny vanished the week of the crime, Geestman gave his wife the excuse he was going camping rather than attending Thanksgiving dinner at the Jones' place. I don't think he used a tent, which means he and Kenny ended up in Oakville at the trailer and shop. What they did after that is anybody's guess. You could say they were robbing banks, or having sex, or whatever. But to assume that...when Kenny was unhappy with the airline he worked for...knew how to use a parachute...and was able a few months later to hand out thousands of dollars to both Geestman's sister and for a house...well, it's hard to ignore. Face it. You read Blast. You saw Geoff Gray's article and both books. You checked out the letters mailed after the hijacking. Since then, you've tried to build a case around that. But even I'm not stupid enough to say that Kenny was certainly Cooper based on the available evidence. It just isn't enough. If you are going to ride on coattails, you should first make sure your shoes are clean.

Yeah. At first we thought Kenny hiked out to Paradise Point State Park, too. But then we found out that Bernie Geestman owned property with a shop building down in Oakville, WA and that's where he parked his infamous Airstream trailer he bought at a bank repo sale six weeks before the hijacking. Instead of bringing it home to Bonney Lake. When he and Kenny vanished the week of the crime, Geestman gave his wife the excuse he was going camping rather than attending Thanksgiving dinner at the Jones' place. I don't think he used a tent, which means he and Kenny ended up in Oakville at the trailer and shop. What they did after that is anybody's guess. You could say they were robbing banks, or having sex, or whatever. But to assume that...when Kenny was unhappy with the airline he worked for...knew how to use a parachute...and was able a few months later to hand out thousands of dollars to both Geestman's sister and for a house...well, it's hard to ignore. Face it. You read Blast. You saw Geoff Gray's article and both books. You checked out the letters mailed after the hijacking. Since then, you've tried to build a case around that. But even I'm not stupid enough to say that Kenny was certainly Cooper based on the available evidence. It just isn't enough. If you are going to ride on coattails, you should first make sure your shoes are clean.

Yeah. At first we thought Kenny hiked out to Paradise Point State Park, too. But then we found out that Bernie Geestman owned property with a shop building down in Oakville, WA and that's where he parked his infamous Airstream trailer he bought at a bank repo sale six weeks before the hijacking. Instead of bringing it home to Bonney Lake. When he and Kenny vanished the week of the crime, Geestman gave his wife the excuse he was going camping rather than attending Thanksgiving dinner at the Jones' place. I don't think he used a tent, which means he and Kenny ended up in Oakville at the trailer and shop. What they did after that is anybody's guess. You could say they were robbing banks, or having sex, or whatever. But to assume that...when Kenny was unhappy with the airline he worked for...knew how to use a parachute...and was able a few months later to hand out thousands of dollars to both Geestman's sister and for a house...well, it's hard to ignore. Face it. You read Blast. You saw Geoff Gray's article and both books. You checked out the letters mailed after the hijacking. Since then, you've tried to build a case around that. But even I'm not stupid enough to say that Kenny was certainly Cooper based on the available evidence. It just isn't enough. If you are going to ride on coattails, you should first make sure your shoes are clean.