Amazon 7 #26 August 6, 2015 Anvilbrother Quote Hyperbole much?????? Thanks I did not even have to type it out, just cut and paste from your post. You seem very thin skinned..... and easy to rile up if you believe that was hyperbole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 867 #27 August 6, 2015 Did I claim to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #28 August 6, 2015 I asked him if he had all the facts you replied with Quote Well we at least know that the citizen did not die.... when the officer had his gun on him.... if he would twitched at that moment I guess he could have used the "I feared for my life" like so many seem to be doing dont even..... Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #29 August 6, 2015 Here we go again.......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRd5oucG114 Quote Nothing is making any of us "experts" or we would be working TOGETHER to solve the problem. I do this everyday, can you say the same? "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #30 August 6, 2015 No I just see you very secure in your views about the incident. Wanted to see what you knew that we did not. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 867 #31 August 6, 2015 How you got there is surprising. I'm actually more secure in my perspective of the ever present blue line in every incident. You guys have got to stop defending the bad ones. It's making you all look bad. Somewhat disappointing that you think I'm the only one with this view. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #32 August 6, 2015 skycop Quote I'm pointing out there could be (and usually is) more to the story. Yawn............ If there wasn't more to it, and the officer got pissed off and acted that way, he should be out of a job. BUT, you or I have no idea what led up to this. I've been in enough messed up situations to withhold judgment unless I have ALL information. In your judgement, at what point in the video was the situation de-escalated enough to turn your back on the subject? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #33 August 6, 2015 I got there from you already having a verdict on what went down without having but a fraction of the facts. Show me where I defended him. Knee jerk reactions are like the jade helm thread, you come off looking stupid if the facts don't EVENTUALLY come out in your favor. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #34 August 6, 2015 A tactical mistake, then again the entire situation could be a big mistake. You or I don't know the all the facts. This is fun, kind of like a cat chasing it's tail. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,566 #35 August 6, 2015 skycop A tactical mistake Oh, so now you do understand the point. Took you long enough. But now I wonder, when the cop was asked what he was doing there with his weapon drawn and he answered 'you film me I film you' what kind of mistake was that? Tactical? Syntactical?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #36 August 6, 2015 jakee ***A tactical mistake Oh, so now you do understand the point. Took you long enough. But now I wonder, when the cop was asked what he was doing there with his weapon drawn and he answered 'you film me I film you' what kind of mistake was that? Tactical? Syntactical? Human Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #37 August 6, 2015 I.........just............don't............know............. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,556 #38 August 7, 2015 Until you can also say honestly that you think there might be more to the story on the non-cop's part, it's a partisan view. Acknowledging the actual complexity of only one side of a transaction is painting it with your own colors, just as much as automatically painting a side as being guilty. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #39 August 7, 2015 I say the same thing at virtually all scenes/situations I go to, until I hear both sides unless I was there. I withhold judgment. Those scenes number well into the thousands. "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,436 #40 August 7, 2015 skycop Here we go again.......... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRd5oucG114 Propaganda Statistics - listed in his source citatiions. Those numbers are voluntarily given to the FBI by police and many jurisdictions simply don’t hand over this information. Making an accurate accounting of exactly how many people police have actually killed each year is extremely difficult to ascertain. For instance, the killing of Eric Garner would not be included in the FBI’s 2014 statistics because New York doesn’t participate in the voluntary program. Here's the issue the police have ( ~35% increase each year of killings by cops): http://www.killedbypolice.net/Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikl68 6 #41 August 8, 2015 Not directed at you bigun, but I would like to hear every one just as PASSIONATE the next time an innocent police officer is killed while giving some one a traffic ticket, or ambushed in their vehicle while doing paperwork etc. Just because they chose a dangerous job doesnt mean its right or that it should be excepted by the public any less than a bad cop shooting an unarmed citizen. They are doing a job and also deserve to return home to their families as much as the citizen but nobody looses their shit when a cop is killed. And there are just as many cases of cops being killed through out history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikl68 6 #42 August 8, 2015 And yes this cop was out of line, and could have taken another approach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #43 August 8, 2015 tikl68 Not directed at you bigun, but I would like to hear every one just as PASSIONATE the next time an innocent police officer is killed while giving some one a traffic ticket, or ambushed in their vehicle while doing paperwork etc. Just because they chose a dangerous job doesnt mean its right or that it should be excepted by the public any less than a bad cop shooting an unarmed citizen. They are doing a job and also deserve to return home to their families as much as the citizen but nobody looses their shit when a cop is killed. And there are just as many cases of cops being killed through out history. The Families of cops who are shot are usually awarded with quite a bit of justice. What is the usual outcome for anyone who shoots a cop?????? The families of unarmed civilians shot by cops are usually not accorded the same level of "justice" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #44 August 8, 2015 There are millions upon millions of police contacts yearly, many under very difficult circumstances, a very, very small percentage end on controversy. Those are facts. The video cites it's sources, just because you don't like the stats, doesn't mean they are wrong, inaccurate, or propaganda. It gives a good perspective to the misinformation reported as fact by the 24 hour news cycle. I've had this discussion ad-nauseam............ (cat goes back to chasing it's tail) "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,436 #45 August 8, 2015 http://www.wsj.com/articles/hundreds-of-police-killings-are-uncounted-in-federal-statistics-1417577504Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,085 #46 August 8, 2015 >There are millions upon millions of police contacts yearly, many under very >difficult circumstances, a very, very small percentage end on controversy. Those >are facts. And those controversies are increasing. Also a fact. There were 385 police killings in the US by June 1 2015 - about twice the average rate over the past decade. In New York City, three police officers have been accused of raping kids. That's in 2015 alone, in one city - and the year's not over. http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fatal-police-shootings-in-2015-approaching-400-nationwide/2015/05/30/d322256a-058e-11e5-a428-c984eb077d4e_story.html http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/brooklyn-nypd-sergeant-charged-raping-teen-article-1.2315982 http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NYPD-Officer-Arrested-Rape-Teenage-Girl-Church-Bronx-297445751.html http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NYPD-Sergeant-Arrested-Sex-Abuse-Minor-Rape-Police-291496781.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #47 August 8, 2015 Cops are bad.........hmmmmkkkkk http://abc7.com/sports/lapd-youth-sports-program-changes-hearts-minds-in-watts/906307/ "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,113 #48 August 8, 2015 So explain why police killings in the USA are so far out of line with police killings in other western democracies. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries Are there more Americans that "just need killin'"?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #49 August 8, 2015 The same reason police shoot more people here than Police do in other countries. The people they are dealing with. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #50 August 8, 2015 Anvilbrother The same reason police shoot more people here than Police do in other countries. The people they are dealing with. Protecting and serving is then long dead like so many citizens.... yet the words remain on so many departments cruisers and buildings.... as what a warning that they will do anything to protect their jobs and serving themselves????? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites